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aay
05-18-2004, 02:01 AM
- Kernel 2.6.6
- Harddisk installer (Fabian Franz) update
- Live installer (Fabian Franz) update
- fixed knoppix-terminalserver boot-graphics
- Removed ipw2100 support in Kernel 2.6.6 because it does not work there (gcc
incompatibilities, changed Kernel api)

bfree
05-18-2004, 03:49 AM
Looks like V3.4-2004-05-17 to me!

Aleu
05-18-2004, 04:06 AM
Looks like V3.4-2004-05-17 to me!

Could you let me know on which mirror I can find it.

Thnx

j.drake
05-18-2004, 04:19 AM
Looks like V3.4-2004-05-17 to me!

Could you let me know on which mirror I can find it.

Thnx

I had to go to a German one

Aleu
05-18-2004, 04:20 AM
I had to go to a German one

but which one. Could you post the link to it?

Thnx

Aleu
05-18-2004, 04:30 AM
Doesn't matter I found it :D

renderedbrian
05-18-2004, 07:40 AM
Yet another release?

When is the stable version likely to be released?

--
Brian

bongski55
05-18-2004, 09:16 AM
Is the faulty shutdown addressed in this release? See http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10275&highlight=shutdown.

Superstoned
05-18-2004, 11:37 AM
stable??? the knoppix development goes like: new stable (3.3, 3.4) then updates on problems, then new stable. stable is simply the latest, I guess..

Bernd Blaauw
05-18-2004, 12:38 PM
Anyone know more about Captive-NTFS?

I'd like to know if Captive-NTFS can only be activated from KDE,
or, for example, if the init-script finds it in /KNOPPIX on cdrom
(if I put the necessary files there).

I prefer automatically using Captive, but don't know if KNOPPIX can handle this.

another 700MB to download.

Bernd

jdong
05-18-2004, 03:44 PM
Is it possible to make binary patches to ISO's that would relieve me from downloading 700MB every week?!?!

renderedbrian
05-18-2004, 05:23 PM
Is it possible to make binary patches to ISO's that would relieve me from downloading 700MB every week?!?!

Indeed. That would be a very very nice feature.

However, I'm wanting to use knoppix as a hard drive installed linux, I'm loath to install this release as I'm sure that another version will be out next week, so I'll have to download 700mb, reinstall knoppix hd install, apt-get my apps, reinstall my apps etc etc. Pity it isn't possible to do a "system update" with a hard drive installed knoppix, which goes to a knoppix mirror and just updates what has changed, so you would just need to do one hd install, then keep up to date by say, "sudo knoppix-update"

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Brian

aay
05-18-2004, 05:45 PM
Is it possible to make binary patches to ISO's that would relieve me from downloading 700MB every week?!?!

If everything is working fine for you, why do you need to download a new image. As Klaus says in the changelog, these are minor updates. If the changes are not an issue for you, then I would not worry about downloading the newest iso.

TyphoonMentat
05-18-2004, 05:58 PM
However, you could possibly use rsync - it would only download the parts of the ISO that had changed. It's worth a try.

probono
05-18-2004, 07:24 PM
However, you could possibly use rsync - it would only download the parts of the ISO that had changed. It's worth a try.
Won't work since it's a compressed filesystem.

renderedbrian
05-18-2004, 08:05 PM
Is it possible to make binary patches to ISO's that would relieve me from downloading 700MB every week?!?!

If everything is working fine for you, why do you need to download a new image. As Klaus says in the changelog, these are minor updates. If the changes are not an issue for you, then I would not worry about downloading the newest iso.

Hmmm, thats a good point! I think I'll ignore any more minor updates to knoppix 3.4, and get on with using linux! :D

--
Brian

Superstoned
05-18-2004, 09:40 PM
its useless to update your hdinstall, its an debian system. and debian is the master if it's about upgrading. once you have installed debian (with knoppix, in this case) you essentially will never have to install debian again. debian offers smooth upgrades, even from major versions, even between several major versions. you can install packages from several major versions at a time, without problems, etc etc. so use this advantage, instead of whining about the new knoppix features ;-)

Edix
05-19-2004, 05:19 AM
- Kernel 2.6.6
- Harddisk installer (Fabian Franz) update
- Live installer (Fabian Franz) update
- fixed knoppix-terminalserver boot-graphics
- Removed ipw2100 support in Kernel 2.6.6 because it does not work there (gcc
incompatibilities, changed Kernel api)

Is the live installer a "Poor mans" install script? and if so is it the "other option" in the knoppx-installer dialog box ( I went with the recommended install) and if it is a poormans script which type of poor man script is it? I have several machines to set up and due to hardware restrictions think the poorman script may be best for many of them.
Thanks

bighusky
05-19-2004, 02:50 PM
Netgear Network card not using the right driver and freezing at boot still present in latest release:


Hi

as with the first 3.4 release I am not able to boot 2 PC's with the 2.6 kernel. Both of them boot properly with the 2.4 kernel.
With 2.6 the PC's freeze completely (not even Ctrl-Alt-Del work) on the network adapter:
...
Network device eth0 detected, DHCP broadcasting for IP
...
Both PC's have a Netgear FA310-TX card (DEC 2114x) which has worked with Xandros, Debian and Mandrake 10(with 2.6 kernel). With the 2.4 kernels it usually used the tulip driver from D.Becker but with Knoppix 3.4 and kernel 2.4 it actually uses:
...
eth0: DC21140 at 0xec00 (PCI bus 0, device 9), h/w address 00:40:05:42:c3:40,
and requires IRQ15 (provided by PCI BIOS).
de4x5.c:V0.546 2001/02/22 davies@maniac.ultranet.com
...
Will get Mandrake 10 back on one of these to see what they are using in their 2.6 kernel.
P.S. Mandrake 10 is using the tulip driver:
....
Linux Tulip driver version 1.1.13 (May 11, 2002)
PCI: Found IRQ 15 for device 0000:00:09.0
tulip0: EEPROM default media type Autosense.
tulip0: Index #0 - Media MII (#11) described by a 21140 MII PHY (1) block.
tulip0: MII transceiver #0 config 1000 status 782d advertising 01e1.
eth0: Digital DS21140 Tulip rev 34 at 0xec00, 00:40:05:42:C3:40, IRQ 15.
....



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alkat
05-19-2004, 06:04 PM
Hi there,
it seems that I'll never be able to try this new knoppix... :cry:

I downloaded the first release and it wouldn't boot. Yesterday I downloaded the latest release and still I can't use it! It wouldn't boot unless I tried the failsafe mode, and when it booted in failsafe, it got stuck on the video card driver. I have an ATI Radeon Mobility U1 which is a bit of a problem with Linux, but I've always managed to use a vesa driver. With Knoppix 3.4 the vesa driver wouldn't work (but it does work with Knoppix 3.3 which I am using now).

Hope things will get better soon! :)

Bye,
A.

Hunkah
05-19-2004, 06:20 PM
Is there an md5 to go with it?

wine
05-19-2004, 08:43 PM
I read this in distrowatch:

A new updated release of the Knoppix live CD is now available for your downloading pleasure. From the changelog: "V3.4-2004-05-17 (small updates). Kernel 2.6.6; harddisk installer (Fabian Franz) update; live installer (Fabian Franz) update; fixed knoppix-terminalserver boot-graphics; removed ipw2100 support in kernel 2.6.6 because it does not work there (gcc incompatibilities, changed kernel api)." Download from one of the many Knoppix mirrors: KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-17-DE.iso (690MB) or KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-17-EN.iso (690MB).

:?: :?:

jdong
05-19-2004, 08:56 PM
Is the live installer a "Poor mans" install script? and if so is it the "other option" in the knoppx-installer dialog box ( I went with the recommended install) and if it is a poormans script which type of poor man script is it? I have several machines to set up and due to hardware restrictions think the poorman script may be best for many of them.
Thanks

The live-installer is a set of wrapper scripts that allow you to use apt on the livecd environment.

Edix
05-20-2004, 12:03 AM
Thanks, so is there a script to handle a poormans install to a partition no as fat32 file? It would sure be handy!

Thanks again

Hunkah
05-20-2004, 12:30 AM
Yah, but is there an md5 to go with it?

kidsatacrux
05-20-2004, 01:01 AM
With the 2.6.6 kernel, 3.4 5-17-04

seems to have instantly recognized my Serial ATA configuration. That was a problem with previous versions and a lot of other distro's.

with:


with this motherboard:

http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/msi-kt6-delta/

and this hard drive:

Model Number:ST380023AS
Capacity:80 GB
Speed:7200 rpm
Seek time:9 ms avg
Interface:Serial ATA


http://www.seagate.com/cda/products...ber/1,,,00.html


That was a big improvement for such a small update.



vielen Dank Knoppix Entwicklung Mannschaft

vielen Dank Knoppix Gemeinschaftsunterstützung

vielen Dank


thank you very much Knoppix development team

thank you very much Knoppix community support

thank you very much

bfree
05-20-2004, 03:02 AM
Thanks, so is there a script to handle a poormans install to a partition no as fat32 file? It would sure be handy!


I believe what you are looking for is the tohd cheatcode. Then you just need to set up a way to boot it ... (cd, floppy or lilo/grub/other boot loader on hard disk).

scottknl
05-20-2004, 05:05 AM
How can I get or create the kernel headers for the 2.6.6 kernal?
:?

SUOrangeman
05-20-2004, 09:56 AM
I tried to "update"my ISO from last week's release. I renamed my ISO accordingly and pulled the latest .torrent file. I was hoping that my BT client would check the ISO and start updating only what was needed. Unfortunately, it did not work, but the torrent was quick enough for me to pull the entire file within an hour or two. :)

-SUO

kklaudio
05-20-2004, 10:27 AM
Upgrading from 3.3 to 3.4 (2004-05-17), using kernel 2.4, everythig goes ok except that when I perform "dpkg-reconfigure console-common" the answer is:
"Looking for keymap to install: None"
Any help will be apreciated, thanks in advance

Klaudio

Yakumo
05-20-2004, 03:55 PM
3.4 17-05-2004 release.

adaptec SATA card (a1210sa) still usless , card detected, then it keeps trying to detect non-existing drives on unused ports, and losing interrupt on the existing drive (settup is fine in winXP, no HW errors, IRQ conflicts)

is there any way i can get a log of te error messages on bootup to post, or any way to get information that would be more usefull to you to fix this in later releases?

I'm using knoppix as a liveCD not an HD install.

boehmb
05-21-2004, 12:47 AM
Xine still doesn't work when booting with the 2.6 kernel. It just loads and disappears. I can't play CD's with KsCD, either. Both work fine when booting with the 2.4.x kernel. Anybody else have this problem? I tried it on several different computers with no luck. Otherwise, booting is faster and everything else works great!

Don_PhrostByte
05-21-2004, 05:18 PM
Everything works great except mounting my NTFS partitions on SATA - is this a known problem? is there a fix?

knoppix@ttyp0[knoppix]$ mount /mnt/hde1
/dev/hde1: Input/output error
mount: /dev/hde1: can't read superblock

Hardware:
Sil3112 sata controller
2x WD1600JD hard drives

Yakumo
05-21-2004, 06:32 PM
Sil3112 , same chip as the adaptec card i brought up above.. I have the same problem once knoppix has finally booted.

Hunkah
05-21-2004, 07:15 PM
I have the xine problem too.

mangancha
05-22-2004, 05:29 AM
Just that, who has a torrent?

I cannot find the 2004-05-16 iso anywhere

Stephen
05-22-2004, 05:59 AM
Just that, who has a torrent?

I cannot find the 2004-05-16 iso anywhere

http://torrent.unix-ag.uni-kl.de:6969/

kovk
05-22-2004, 09:22 AM
I also have the xine problem but have a workaround that works for me. It seems it only crashes when I put the mouse on top of the gui, if you might click the movie window and turn off the gui you can use it with keybaord shortcuts and by using the menus by right clicking. I'd like to know how to fix it, but till then this works fine.

iang
05-22-2004, 10:24 AM
Yes, same problem with Xine under kernel 2.6. Shuts down immediately on any mouse over action. Works fine with 2.4.

bongski55
05-23-2004, 06:31 AM
Yet another release?

When is the stable version likely to be released?

--
Brian

I have read somewhre in these forum that knoppix will always be beta. So no such thing as "stable" in beta software.

ScreamingTemporalDoom
05-23-2004, 12:26 PM
I also have the same problem with Xine.

After loading it from the command line, I noticed that there were several PNG files that it was not able to load. I don't remember what they were at the moment.

ZeroKun
05-23-2004, 12:37 PM
Like someone said before, just use Kaffeine. I never really cared for that damn dvd like interface.

Hunkah
05-23-2004, 09:09 PM
Kaffeine is a program? That's funny! Here I thought you all were making a joke!
Joke Being:
"Don't flip out, just drink a coffee and let the [kaffeen] calm you down!"
"Use caffeen"

tx
05-23-2004, 09:22 PM
Well-seeded tracker for knoppix and linux related downloads:

http://tracker.tx.se:6969

funkyrat
05-25-2004, 01:09 AM
I also have the same problem with Xine.

After loading it from the command line, I noticed that there were several PNG files that it was not able to load. I don't remember what they were at the moment.

Interesting. I have a different problem with Xine. Under the 2.6 kernel Xine launches just fine and I am able to play video files, however if I mouse over the Xine control panel while playing a file the whole application just terminates. Sorry, I haven't had time to trace what is actually happening yet.

fourthirtysix
05-28-2004, 05:14 AM
Everything works great except mounting my NTFS partitions on SATA - is this a known problem? is there a fix?

knoppix@ttyp0[knoppix]$ mount /mnt/hde1
/dev/hde1: Input/output error
mount: /dev/hde1: can't read superblock

Hardware:
Sil3112 sata controller
2x WD1600JD hard drives


i'm having same problem, 05_17 release, boot parameters "knoppix26", i get "Disabling IRQ #18" repeating over and over. Finally KDE loads up, but it can't read superblock. HDPARM doesn't help either

Yakumo
05-30-2004, 03:42 PM
I've been using this card for a while in linux - the trick is do NOT use the IDE drivers, instead use the libata (under SCSI low level drivers) in the kernel. Unfortunately every livecd I've found uses the IDE module which doesn't work at all with the 1210sa. The lost interrupt bug was fixed ages ago in libata, for some reaon the ide driver has not been :S.

If anyone makes a custom knoppix or live cd with a kernel that works (i.e. ide sil3112 driver disabled, libata sil3112 driver built-in) please let me know.

any chance we could get this into the next 3.4 build?

Neo-Rio
06-16-2004, 02:28 PM
any chance we could get this into the next 3.4 build?

I second the motion.

A Knoppix release with the 2.6.7 kernel (just out now) as well as a "no sata" cheat code for booting would really make my day. I have an onboard SATA controller which I use for windows, but it causes linux a nightmare with the SiI drivers which weren't really designed for onboard SATA controllers.... so I just want to do away with their detection!