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Robert Michel
03-07-2003, 09:41 PM
Salve!

The newschannel of the German IT-Magazin C't reported today that Knoppix 3.2
is published at the world biggest ICT-fair CeBIT in Hannover:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/odi-07.03.03-000/

Knoppix 3.2 has now KDE 3.1 and "persistant home" - a way to save
the configuration also on hd and USB-Memory-Sticks. :lol:

Cheers,
rob

PS: There isn't 3.2 on the ftp-mirrors yet

aay
03-07-2003, 09:52 PM
:D YEA!!! :D

adamm
03-07-2003, 10:49 PM
I can't wait to try it out!
...i also can't wait to see the changelog. i hope it's not like the last one
" Lots of updates and bugfixes"
details people details! :wink:

lindleyrl
03-08-2003, 12:31 AM
sorry...i know this is dumb, but still new :) - what do you mean by "persistent home"

thx!

Robert Michel
03-08-2003, 01:16 AM
sorry...i know this is dumb, but still new :) - what do you mean by "persistent home"

No this isn't dumb - I was looking to find a description or try to
start a PersistantHomeHowTo... So I've searched this forum and
found:

--snipp--
> "Persistent home" is just about the /home directory of knoppix, that
> normally resides in a ramdisk. What persistent home does is: it
> "replaces" the ramdisk by a harddisk (or thumbdrive...) for your /home
> directory. So whatever you put in your /home directory (the one from
> knoppix!!!) is no longer lost if you reboot knoppix.

That as always been my understanding of persitant home, save the home
directory in those physical place. So actually you keep your
file/settings for all the thinks the user knoppix is doing there.
--snapp--
People of this forum though already to use a sever somewhere in the
internet instead of an USB stick :D

Konfiguration/Installing was yesterday
Using/Working is Knoppix
:lol: rob

Robert Michel
03-08-2003, 01:49 AM
Salve,

here is the ultimative persitent home thread:

ANNOUNCE: Knoppix Persistent Home 0.4 released
http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=155
rob

Robert Michel
03-08-2003, 01:52 AM
Klaus wrote:

"I'm already finished with integration of KDE 3.1 on the official
version
(which will be 3.2). I'm planning to release it on CeBit 2003. Since
people are keeping me busy with emails, and I have to travel a lot
during the next weeks, there will be not much chance of a new release before the official 3.2, though."

And the new 3.2 wallpapers:
http://www.evil-genius.org/downloads/knoppix/knoppix-3.2-wallpaper-1024x.jpg

http://www.evil-genius.org/downloads/knoppix/knoppix-3.2-wallpaper-1280x.jpg

audioaficionado
03-08-2003, 02:21 AM
When will it get on the mirrors?

I wonder if edaz's SuSE frame style boot loader graphics are included?

eadz
03-08-2003, 02:24 AM
And the new 3.2 wallpapers:
http://www.evil-genius.org/downloads/knoppix/knoppix-3.2-wallpaper-1024x.jpg

http://www.evil-genius.org/downloads/knoppix/knoppix-3.2-wallpaper-1280x.jpg

I see.. cool, they are cool wallpapers!!

Robert Michel
03-08-2003, 02:25 AM
Salve!

see http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

--snipp--
KNOPPIX at CeBit 2003, Hall 11 (enac europe), booth D42-21b


On this years CeBit, Version 3.2 of KNOPPIX will be presented. Pressed CDs are available at the KNOPPIX/LinuxTag booth in hall 11, and at the booth of the c't magazine (Halle 5, Stand E38). ISO-Images will be available after CeBit on the official mirrors, shortly after CeBit.

Neue Features:
KDE 3.1 (woody release) from ktown.kde.org,
Evolution 1.2.1
OpenOffice 1.0.2 (german and english)
KOffice 1.2.1
Possibility to create a persistent homedir with personal data and desktop settings on a memory stick or similar, optional with AES encryption.
Many updates and new tables for hardware detection
--snapp--

Visit the CeBIT 12.03-19.03.2003 if you can't wait to get 3.2
"ISO-Images will be available after CeBit on the official mirrors, shortly after CeBit." This means still 11 days to wait ....
... this is a cool trick to visit Klaus himself at CeBIT :lol:
rob

Robert Michel
03-08-2003, 02:30 AM
how did you get those?
Salve eadz!

just copy and past form this forum:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/go.shtml?read=1&msg_id=3095669&forum_id=39265
Original written by P h o s m o.
But I don't know were he got the news from.

I see.. cool, they are cool wallpapers!!
Yes, without the cool wallpapers were Knoppix not so funny. IMHO it doesn't matter that someone use it for advertising his grafic work. (but on 3.1 the advertisment was smaller!)
The wallpapers are made by Michael Kleinhenz, how he had did it can you see here
http://www.evil-genius.org/modules/freecontent/index.php?id=3

Thanks for moving my posting, I tried to post into NEWS, but it makes sence that only the administrators have right to do this.
BTW thank you for your forum! The wiki is the best! I hope with the help of your forum/wiki we will have two good howtos soon:
one for beginners and one for advances users.

Have a nice WE
rob

Phredd
03-08-2003, 03:01 AM
(if it is legal)

Can somebody from the show (that gets a K3.2 disc) ISO it up and put it out there for download? Man...11 days...thats forever.

Robert Michel
03-08-2003, 03:10 AM
Salve Phredd!

>(if it is legal)
of course this will be legal :D

>Can somebody from the show (that gets a K3.2 disc) ISO it up and put >it out there for download? Man...11 days...thats forever.

I was a little bit to fast, Klaus will presentate 3.2 in 4 days
(CeBIT will start next week)
But isn't fun to wait for good things? I be shure that you can get
it before 11 days :lol:
rob

SaS
03-08-2003, 01:17 PM
Maybe someona can put a screenshots of knoppix 3.2?? I we can`t downlaod it then maybe we can look on screens?

laurentbon
03-08-2003, 01:41 PM
Knoppix is goind to be the killer app!
KDE 3.1, Evolution, openoffice and resident home! What else would you want?

Oh yes, Gnome 2.2? But may be it is already in!

Robert Michel
03-08-2003, 03:29 PM
What else would you want?

I would like to see:
- hardware producers using the free space of their driver-CD for Knoppix (680MB)
- Pop bands which combine their single-CD as Hybrid-CD with 500 MB Knoppix (& First OS beeing #1 of the single charts).
- AOL, pressing Knoppix on their CDs (First time of a usefull AOL-CD)
- "Financial Times" or "The Economist" with Knoppix-CD inside
- Broadcasting Knoppix via shortwave worldwide (www.drm.org)(would take about 5 days 8 hours) about twice a year.

:lol: The Knoppix fun / hype is just beginning :lol:
rob

tsaelee
03-08-2003, 07:05 PM
Will it?

Would you please add generic thumb drive driver module to 3.2? Please, please?

RoadKill
03-08-2003, 07:46 PM
This is really cool.

I am somewhat non-plussed that news of 3.2's release comes without it posted to mirrors. I know its Klaus's choice but still it would have been nicer... I am so looking forward to seeing this release.

All the best, Dan

lilliput
03-10-2003, 05:25 PM
So what about the screen - shot .?
I wait .. but .. still hard.. but the pleasure growing up with time so ..

WAITING for news and the iso !!

Great job ..

yohanman
03-11-2003, 08:07 PM
Is enlightenment also included on the disc ?

mabhatter
03-12-2003, 02:06 AM
Even if AOL put Knoppix on a CD, they still wouldn't support Linux clients on AOL! You still wouldn't be able to connect to AOL with the Linux disc.

Although, you'd think by now with the succes of Mozilla that they'd build in some kind of Linux/ alt OS support. As much as people dog it, the extra content [streaming music, secured kids areas, services] they provide is worth the little extra dime. If only they'd get their heads out [of their B()##] and sell internet connection rather than some cable/network/telcom wannabe!

Robert Michel
03-12-2003, 02:18 AM
Even if AOL put Knoppix on a CD, they still wouldn't support Linux clients on AOL! You still wouldn't be able to connect to AOL with the Linux disc.....

Well, maybe this is better - Which Linuxer would like to use AOL?
The question was what we whant to see, I wrote that I whant to see
Knoppix on every > 400MB free space on discs. When AOL-CDs stays
useless, nevermind - there many more free CDs in normal magazins,
which can use Knoppix. :lol:
rob

PS: The Cebit will open in 8 hours, I'm anxious to know when the first
people will anouced that they have a 3.2 iso publiced on their server.
In 20, 44 hours?

audioaficionado
03-12-2003, 02:56 AM
I'll hopefully be downloading it this time tomorrow and running it an hour later. :D

Robert Michel
03-12-2003, 03:43 PM
I'll hopefully be downloading it this time tomorrow and running it an hour later. :D

Salve Steve,

I'm not so lucky with the way I worte my postings. I don't wanted
to make more people :cry: when they still have to wait for 3.2
till 20.03.2003. (Beginning of spirng)- I just tried to motivate
visitors of the CeBIT to place Knoppix on their mirrors.

But when someone with a small conection anounced that he has
publiced it and > 100 people try a download at same time....
Also I will not hope that some "funny" people will rename 3.1 to 3.2
The best way is to relax and wait for spring :D
Inbetween we can make the documentation of the Persistent Home
better: http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/PersistentHomeHowTo
Any corrections, additions to made?
Does Persitent Home support Sonys Memory-sticks?

I promise you, when Hannover would be a little bit more close to
Aachen, I would traval to CeBIT only for getting 3.2 shaking Klaus
hands, getting an autogramm of him on my 3.2, took the next train
back to server you 3.2.

Greetings
rob

MichielioZ
03-12-2003, 05:20 PM
I'll hopefully be downloading it this time tomorrow and running it an hour later. :D
Do I understand this right ??
You're downloading the new 3.2 release ??
If you are : could you please share it ? Or better yet : where are you downloading it from ?
I guess it would be greatly appreciated if you can get people who cannot visit Klaus himself a copy..

minhsao
03-12-2003, 05:54 PM
I know 3.2 is going to be out there soon and all the mirrors will be jammed up. Can I suggest of using BitTorrent for releasing ... or even early releases (before the mirrors). I think BitTorrent will eliminate any bandwidth issue for an early release.

http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/

Can't wait to see 3.2!!!

just my 2 cents...

Min

avih
03-13-2003, 02:47 PM
Hi there
(my 1st post here).

I think that if Klauss want's to introduce 3.2 exclusiveley at CeBIT , then we shouldn't upload the iso online (especially on this official forum). yes, eventhough it's GPL (community values beyond the EULA anyone? ;) )

it's only few days, let him finish with CeBIT, i'm sure he wants the new version published asap. besides, it couls be CeBIT branded (in walpapers, etc)... hmmm.. collector's item??? lol.

cheers,
looking forward for 3.2 as well ;)

avih

SaS
03-13-2003, 02:59 PM
hey it now morning :) where is 3.2??

asdrubael
03-13-2003, 03:37 PM
I think that if Klauss want's to introduce 3.2 exclusiveley at CeBIT , then we shouldn't upload the iso online
Is that procedure in the terms of the GPL?
Inform the press first and let the users wait?
Is that the new mind of the community that we need to beat the commercials?

audioaficionado
03-13-2003, 04:30 PM
No 3.2 yet...

Let the teasing continue another day :roll:

Phredd
03-13-2003, 05:15 PM
The knoppix mirror ftp site:

http://mirror.usu.edu/mirrors/knoppix/?submit=ACCEPT+%3E%3E

gives:

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /mirrors/knoppix/ on this server.
Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Updating with 3.2 maybe??!?!

avih
03-13-2003, 06:20 PM
I think that if Klauss want's to introduce 3.2 exclusiveley at CeBIT , then we shouldn't upload the iso online
Is that procedure in the terms of the GPL?
Inform the press first and let the users wait?
Is that the new mind of the community that we need to beat the commercials?

What i ment was:

1. according to the gpl, the iso can be redistributed ets. no LEAGAL problem.
2. klauss wanted to upload the iso AFTER cebit, we should respect that because, afterall, it IS his creation.
3. it could be cebit branded.
4. this edition might not be gpl. do YOU know it's gpl?

the leagal terms just make up the framework. respect and humal values should come before that imho. isn't that the whole point of the open source movement?

just my 2c though.

cheers
avih

asdrubael
03-13-2003, 07:46 PM
2. klauss wanted to upload the iso AFTER cebit, we should respect that because, afterall, it IS his creation.
3. it could be cebit branded.
4. this edition might not be gpl. do YOU know it's gpl?

the leagal terms just make up the framework. respect and humal values should come before that imho. isn't that the whole point of the open source movement?

1. Sure, itīs his creation, partially.
In fact itīs mostly a collection of software programmed by different people.

2. Why should it be "cebit branded"? Whatīs the big difference between Version 3.1 and 3.2? Sure, he got KDE 3.1 inserted but it was also in KnoppixKDE. And persistant home is useless if you got only NTFS-Partitions.

3. I donīt know if itīs under the GPL.

I think the point is that software should be free too everyone at every time. No one should get software earlier because of a trade fair.
If itīs a preview or beta version than i can understand that you donīt release it. But holding back a stable version is IMHO not the way open-source should work.

Phredd
03-13-2003, 08:43 PM
Salve!

When is the official END of CeBit?

audioaficionado
03-13-2003, 08:54 PM
Klauss can post it any time he wants AFAIC. It's his creation an he has the right to time it's introduction into this world. Maybe he's timing will result in more publicity and demand for his creation/product and maybe some revenue stream to help support him and his software development efforts.

OTOH I sure wish he'd hurry up and post it to a mirror server yesterday :D

I've checked several mirrors and they all are still frozen @ v3.1 :(

Phredd
03-13-2003, 08:55 PM
CeBit is over on the 19th...

adamm
03-14-2003, 06:51 PM
I wish we could at least see the changelog.txt file for 3.2
Unless I missed it and it is posted somewhere?
Anyone know?

minhsao
03-14-2003, 06:58 PM
Yep... I agree ... change logs would be nice...
then a least I can see if Kismet has been updated or not on the new version.

Thanks

SaS
03-14-2003, 07:11 PM
heh :( I want knoppix 3.2 :( where is it? how long i must want :(:( Klaus go go go!!

audioaficionado
03-14-2003, 09:49 PM
If it doesn't have the updated PH, you won't be able to write to the HD without a lot of hassle. Maybe as root but not user knoppix.

asdrubael
03-14-2003, 10:48 PM
I just canīt believe thereīs still no ISO available.
Are there no Knoppix-Fans on the Cebit? Someone who at least getīs the CD?
Man I hate it to live in munich, where was Klaus at the Systems?

probono
03-15-2003, 12:08 AM
it's on eDonkey / eMule (as reported tin the German Knoppix forum). A shame that it is fist given on CD and only afterwards to the ftp sites.

god
03-15-2003, 02:27 AM
my guess on why he waited was so that at the end of Cebit, multiple people WILL mirror it. Perhaps that way it will reduce the strain , and increase access times as opposed to only a few mirrors hosting it at the start.... perhaps he is giving it to the comercial people so that more of them can see what it is and distribute it with there products to increase it's market share, and that of linux in general. who knows. Don't complain that you have to wait to get your free copy of a free product.

Phredd
03-15-2003, 03:14 AM
Dont even try to mess with edonkey to find 3.2. I installed Windows 98 into a vmware session to try to install edonkey, went to edonkey.com to try to install the edonkey client. I COULD NEVER GET THRU THE POP UP ADs/BROWSERS to find where the client was downloaded --- or even figure out what I was supposed to do to "get there". It is a CF.

I wasted my time, dont waste yours.

minhsao
03-15-2003, 03:24 AM
Like I stated earlier... I think someone should use bit torrent to help distribute it ... the more people are downloading it the faster it gets!!!

http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/

:)

Min

Phredd
03-15-2003, 03:33 AM
minhsao,

For it to get "faster" do the people downlaoding it *HAVE* to have the bit torrent client installed or can they just be DL'ing without it?

If it DOESNT require *EVERYONE* to have the client, I will "put it up" as soon as I can find it...

BTW....WAR EAGLE!!! (check my avitar! Grad '93, you?)

minhsao
03-15-2003, 04:23 AM
The way I understand is that bit torrent creates a dummy image on your computer. It then downloads bit and pieces from everyone that has the image and slowly replaces the dummy image. So the more people that have the file you want... say Knoppix 3.2 ... the faster you can get your file. I tried it with animes, and it works very well... that is why I am suggesting it for Knoppix.

Sorry to everyone else if this is going away from the original thread ... but it is just a thought for distribution.

Thanks.

oh... as for me ... I am a 99 AU EE grad.

Min

Phredd
03-15-2003, 04:26 AM
so...when you had success with bit-t did *YOU* have the client installed?


BTW I lived in Magnolia Arms. You?

minhsao
03-15-2003, 04:45 AM
yes... I had the client and I just followed a bit torrent link.
Just click on the link and the process begins.

BTW... there are fake knoppix 3.2 images on eMule. One image was only 700k
kinda small huh?

Min

asdrubael
03-15-2003, 02:48 PM
Don't complain that you have to wait to get your free copy of a free product.
If I had the possibility I would pay someone for getting me a copy.
I already asked everyone that I know, but no one seems to be interested on the Cebit.
If itīs true that there are copys on emule thatīs a real shame.

SaS
03-15-2003, 06:03 PM
I can`t belive thas there is now knoppix 3.2 on mirrors yet :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Robert Michel
03-16-2003, 02:08 AM
I can`t belive thas there is now knoppix 3.2 on mirrors yet :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Thats good PR! :mrgreen:

It's hard for us, to wait just 4 another nigths to see
Knoppix on the mirrors but it seems to be a successful
PR on the CeBit. I don't know if they have still engough
CDs - the Knoppix-CD on the CeBit seems to be populare.
That we have to wait, is the price that the CeBit visitors
get something special and I hope that some journalists see
our reactions, that Knoppix is soooooo populare that many
people can't wait to get it.

For all who can't wait, I haven't found an ISO and no
screenshots, but here is the list with the software
of Knoppix 3.2: http://www.tukansoft.de/knoppix3_2_packages.txt

Wish you four sunny days,
rob

Hades
03-16-2003, 12:26 PM
I found this on some ftp server :
* V3.1-2003-02-26a (CeBit edition)
- Lots of updates and bugfixes
- KDE 3.1 from ktown.kde.org/~nolden/ (woody)
- removed desktop=gnome option until a working gnome configuration is available
- added home=device and myconfig=device (alternate: home=scan myconfig=scan)
bootoption for persistent homedir and persistent configuration
- evolution 1.2.1
- removed some older games and packages to gain space
- openoffice 1.0.2 (german and english)
but I suspekt that 3.2 will have gnome added again. :) when there the stable pack's is out.
ps. this might be old newz im not "up2date" :D

AtleO
03-16-2003, 02:00 PM
http://bbbweb.mine.nu/knoppix.htm

ftp://bugsoft:bugsoft@ftp.cnull.com/vares/Knoppix3.2/

regards,

AtleO

minhsao
03-16-2003, 02:59 PM
Thank you Thank you Thank YOU!!!!!!!!!
:D

Min

AtleO
03-16-2003, 03:04 PM
no problem.

/Atle

Hades
03-16-2003, 03:37 PM
ye well good of you to link to the 3.2 but I think im gonna wait for the public release .. :wink:
with default english boot and such.

MichielioZ
03-16-2003, 04:04 PM
Anyone who gets the 3.2 release from the posted site :
Please, if you can, repost it from a different mirror, or use the bittorrent thingie...
The FTP posted takes very long, it's probably overcrowded now.

CubeDweller
03-16-2003, 05:10 PM
AtleO, thank you for posting v3.2.

Probably a stupid question, but how do I convert the above mentioned .bin file into and iso image? Any hints are appreciated, especially for use with KonCD.

Thanks,
CubeDweller

AtleO
03-16-2003, 05:16 PM
Why not use a Bin2Iso converter program. Just search for it in google.
/Atle

PS. Download from the http link if the ftp is slow.. It should be fast.

MichielioZ
03-16-2003, 05:37 PM
Maybe it "should" be fast, but I only get around the 10kb/s...
For Modem users it would be fast, but I'm on a T3 connection...
By the way : Is the [BBB] bbbweb.mine.nu available through Direct Connect ??
Thanx to anybody who is able to repost to a mirror.

mithrill
03-16-2003, 06:02 PM
Its maxing out my ADSL connection, downloading at 55,88Kb/sec right now.

SaS
03-16-2003, 06:06 PM
heh i think it is yours T3 proveder problems because i`m from Estonia with 10 mb channel and downloading knoppix with 800 kb/s :)

Bort
03-16-2003, 06:20 PM
Its maxing out my ADSL connection, downloading at 55,88Kb/sec right now.

Thanks for killing my download speed :x

DiSNEY
03-16-2003, 06:38 PM
Maybe it "should" be fast, but I only get around the 10kb/s...
For Modem users it would be fast, but I'm on a T3 connection...
By the way : Is the [BBB] bbbweb.mine.nu available through Direct Connect ??
Thanx to anybody who is able to repost to a mirror.

Hello :-)

Currentley my bandwidth is used 50% of my total capacity (10 Mbps) so i have room for more downloaders :-)

I can post the knoppix 3.2 image on a hub on the Direct connect network, just say with hub you want me in and i'll join that hub.

MichielioZ
03-16-2003, 06:39 PM
Maybe if you can all get it so fast one of you is in a position to mirror it somewhere ??
I not just saying this to get a copy, but the current server may be a bit overloaded otherwise...

Edit : Normally I'm on surfnet.mine.nu if you wanna share on another hub, or you can't get in (believe 12Gb minimum) I'll hope you will let me know... thnx for making this effort !

asdrubael
03-16-2003, 07:04 PM
If you could share it on DC that would be great.
But please donīt choose an BBB only Hub!

DiSNEY
03-16-2003, 07:35 PM
Maybe if you can all get it so fast one of you is in a position to mirror it somewhere ??
I not just saying this to get a copy, but the current server may be a bit overloaded otherwise...

Edit : Normally I'm on surfnet.mine.nu if you wanna share on another hub, or you can't get in (believe 12Gb minimum) I'll hope you will let me know... thnx for making this effort !

<DCH++> You're connecting from an IP that's not allowed on this hub. If you have a 10Mbit or faster line (up- and download!) you could send a mail to <fasthub@hotmail.com>. If you have BBB, don't bother. Their peering to NL sucks.
*** Disconnected

Some other hub that you recommand?

/Hasse

asdrubael
03-16-2003, 07:48 PM
Try badashell.no-ip.com or maximumspeed3.no-ip.org.

MichielioZ
03-16-2003, 07:48 PM
Just name a hub, any hub will do, unless it's above 12 Gb share I guess...
I don't have the public hub list here (have the 0.22 version of DC++)..
Maybe maximumspeed.no-ip.org will work, otherwise, just point to the hub you're in, ok ?

asdrubael
03-16-2003, 07:52 PM
And donīt forget to post your username and open some slots :)

DiSNEY
03-16-2003, 08:23 PM
Let's do it this way special 4 you guys :-)

ftp: bbbweb.mine.nu
port : 2025
user : knoppix
password : knoppix

I Hope that it would work better for you.

/Hans

MichielioZ
03-16-2003, 08:52 PM
Hello DiSNEY,

Thanx for wanting to help me out...
Apperently there really is some sort of problem from [BBB] to the Netherlands, this FTP still doesn't rise above the 10kb/s...
Again thanx for trying, but (for me) it'll be waiting for the official release I guess...

DiSNEY
03-16-2003, 09:00 PM
Hello DiSNEY,

Thanx for wanting to help me out...
Apperently there really is some sort of problem from [BBB] to the Netherlands, this FTP still doesn't rise above the 10kb/s...
Again thanx for trying, but (for me) it'll be waiting for the official release I guess...

Have you tested softwares like Downloadaccelerator or StarDownloader to increse the speed to my server?

I Know that BBB has problems with thier supplyer of bandwidth to NL and US when it comes to UPLOAD from BBB to NL or US.

They are aware of the problem and they saying they are working on it.

/Hans

tboege
03-16-2003, 09:18 PM
I have just downloaded a copy of Knoppix 3.2 from http://bbbweb.mine.nu/knoppix.htm.

I have made no testing, but sat up an BitTorrent (use client from ttp://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/) mirror on http://www.boegenielsen.dk/knoppix

Joker
03-16-2003, 09:35 PM
thx man im using bittorrent now. 8) ill let you all know how i do. im gettin 25kb/s right now. i usually dl at 350kb/s. so more of u NEED to join it!!! :twisted:

MichielioZ
03-16-2003, 09:36 PM
thanx tboege, for the links, this works for me...
for now only at 35kb/s, but I guess this will rise as I got more upload.

DiSNEY
03-16-2003, 10:10 PM
thx man im using bittorrent now. 8) ill let you all know how i do. im gettin 25kb/s right now. i usually dl at 350kb/s. so more of u NEED to join it!!! :twisted:

How does bittorrent works?

how do i host it?

/Hans

digitaljc
03-16-2003, 11:16 PM
I'm receiving at 34 - 70 kbps. Woohoo! I'm giddy with anticipation!

Joker
03-16-2003, 11:17 PM
well im only gettin 15kb/s right now im uploading 32kb/s soooo.....
it will get the job done. but if u can tweak it any i would b greatful. :roll:



but im in phoenix az usa i dont know where u are. im sure my location is playin a factor.

Joker
03-16-2003, 11:31 PM
thx man im using bittorrent now. 8) ill let you all know how i do. im gettin 25kb/s right now. i usually dl at 350kb/s. so more of u NEED to join it!!! :twisted:

How does bittorrent works?

how do i host it?

/Hans

im not sure how to host im just using the client tboege would b the one to give an answer to that question.

lars_g
03-16-2003, 11:41 PM
I am sorry, we all are sorry, I just tought abotu you maybe Getting mad at us for someone posting the ISO before the mirrors have the offitial after CeBIT, but think, we're all lovers of your work, and of you, it's like the ultimate candy to a children and the ultimate tool to a geek, it's not out of bad intentions that we do this but out of need :/ so I hope you don't get mad at us for this and that you keep the great work churnign out babies like these. We love you and your work, so pelase don't get mad at us, will you:

:) A faithfull fan :) :oops:

tboege
03-16-2003, 11:45 PM
Well - I'm really no expert. I've never heard about BitTorrent before it was mentioned in this thread above. I decieded to try it, because I have very limited bandwith (512/256 kb/s). As I understand it, BitTorrent ensures, that more people can gain.

How it works (as I understand it)


knoppix32.bin.torrent contains information, wich is used by btdownload to request the file from a daemon called bttracker on my system (listening on port 6969). The bttracker daemons gives information back about which other btdownload-clients currently is running downloading the file in question. The btdownload-clients are servers as well as clients. The trick is, that they can serve to upload the file in parts. It can therefore start serving after it has downloaded a very little part of the file.

In that way, all the clients are providing bandwidth to other downloaders. It is therefore advantageous, that you let your btdownload-client run - even after the download has completet, because it continues to serve as long as the client is running.

It is possible to restart the client, even after the download has finished.

Plese correct my mistakes - if any :-)

freeballer
03-17-2003, 12:59 AM
I downloaded a bit torrent file from: http://www.boegenielsen.dk/knoppix/ but it does not work "problem connecting tracker", is there another mirror/share for knoppix 3.2??

digitaljc
03-17-2003, 01:19 AM
I had the same problem. Am currently using BT++. You can find it here: http://btplusplus.sourceforge.net/

sfish
03-17-2003, 03:54 AM
Once we've been able to completely download the disc image (thanks so much for those who made it available!), what can be done before burning it that will make the CD default to our preferred language? I speak English, so that would be what I would have the most immediate interest in learning how to setup.

Joker
03-17-2003, 04:38 AM
Once we've been able to completely download the disc image (thanks so much for those who made it available!), what can be done before burning it that will make the CD default to our preferred language? I speak English, so that would be what I would have the most immediate interest in learning how to setup.

if its the same as v.31 then just type 'knoppix lang=us'. at the boot: prompt. im still dl'ing so i cant say for sure about this image.

minhsao
03-17-2003, 05:12 AM
You guys are awesome!!!
BitTorrent RULES!!!
... Thanks for the BT link!!!

Min

I will have it in 5 Hours... yeah...
So... for those of you already installed it and played with it, was it worth the wait???

probono
03-17-2003, 06:13 AM
http://www.image-hosting.net/images/messageboard/demo/torrent.gif

probono
03-17-2003, 06:17 AM
To the folks who already have it: PLEASE let your downloaders open also when the download is complete (you can also re-open the downloader and select the existing file as location). This way you help uploading with your bandwidth.

DiSNEY
03-17-2003, 07:51 AM
To the folks who already have it: PLEASE let your downloaders open also when the download is complete (you can also re-open the downloader and select the existing file as location). This way you help uploading with your bandwidth.

Yes, i i'm doing so now.. serving over 100 users on my 10 Mbps connection :-) with http-server, ftp-server, bittorrent :-)

Have fun :-) I'm glad to help with my 10 Mbps connection :-)

/Hans, sweden

probono
03-17-2003, 08:53 AM
Thanks a lot, Hans. This is great! :)

MichielioZ
03-17-2003, 01:06 PM
Ok, so using BitTorrent I got the new image and immediately booted it from my HDD with a bootflop...
There are a few nice editions to the applications for me, but other then that, it lacks a few things KnoppixKDE and MorphixKDE have...
Maybe Klaus is gonna change a few things before release on the mirrors ?!
(Fonts are sometimes not good; No XDisplay or Samba Configuration panel in the KDE control center; No autoplay on "hover" of mp3's browsing the LAN; minor things like that...)

sfish
03-17-2003, 02:09 PM
Once we've been able to completely download the disc image (thanks so much for those who made it available!), what can be done before burning it that will make the CD default to our preferred language? I speak English, so that would be what I would have the most immediate interest in learning how to setup.

if its the same as v.31 then just type 'knoppix lang=us'. at the boot: prompt. im still dl'ing so i cant say for sure about this image.

This is excellent information. Is there any way (maybe by altering the disc image) to get it to automatically boot into English without any runtime commands (aka Cheat Codes)?

MichielioZ
03-17-2003, 02:20 PM
Please search before asking please... 8)
http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/KnoppixProjects
The customizing tool there does just what you're asking.

sfish
03-17-2003, 02:27 PM
D'oh! Lesson learned. Thanks!

Hades
03-17-2003, 07:42 PM
Please search before asking please... 8)
http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/KnoppixProjects
The customizing tool there does just what you're asking.
sure but just remember to remaster it to iso first ;)

MichielioZ
03-17-2003, 09:18 PM
Or just open the .bin with WinISO and extract the boot.img
After modifying it, just reinsert it to the bin file... 8)

clintonian
03-17-2003, 09:21 PM
Greetz,

I am trying to download the ISO as well. People are uploading from me at the same time. Lots of local bandwidth, but still slow on receive...

Well, now that I type, it just jumped from 2 where it's been for a while, to about 40KB/s! uploads same!

Clint

robelanator
03-17-2003, 11:36 PM
I'm downloading via BitTorrent as I type this and I've got a couple of quick questions for those who already have it.

I've heard that Knoppix 3.2 is based on a Debian Woody (stable) release rather than a testing/unstable like 3.1. Can anyone who's downloaded the .iso confirm this please?

Also, does the knx-hdinstall scipt included in this .iso work correctly?

Thanks in advance!

avih
03-18-2003, 12:53 AM
can't u just f***** wait for the official release?

robelanator
03-18-2003, 01:08 AM
can't u just f***** wait for the official release?

Well, yeah, I COULD wait for the official release...but why should I? If there's a copy available now why shouldn't I download it?

If it makes you feel better you can just pretend I was at CeBit and physically picked up a CD.

Bort
03-18-2003, 04:01 AM
No he can't because your no doubt leeching his and others bandwith

robelanator
03-18-2003, 04:41 AM
No he can't because your no doubt leeching his and others bandwith

In what way, exactly?

eadz
03-18-2003, 06:00 AM
please stop the bickering :p

Klaus said on the debian-knoppix mailing list that he aims to release around the 21st-23rd :)

Henk Poley
03-18-2003, 04:50 PM
To the folks who already have it: PLEASE let your downloaders open also when the download is complete
Yes, i i'm doing so now.. serving over 100 users on my 10 Mbps connection :-)
Are you still there Hans? 7kbits ona 96kbit line is :-/
~10kbits for 6 hours yesterday

archtron
03-18-2003, 05:07 PM
Hi,
I'm downloading the Knoppix 3.2 with BitTorrent. This program is FAST
Max 60 Kb donwload, WOW :lol:

Thanx to the people sharing the .ISO

adamm
03-18-2003, 05:33 PM
As cool as it is that I can get it now, I'm going to wait for the official release. I've waited this long, I can wait a few more days.
:D

probono
03-18-2003, 07:37 PM
Klaus Knopper wrote: "CeBIT ends on 19-03-2003, and I'm staying in Hannover until 20th to get some sleep before returning home, so 21th (or the weekend after) would be a good bet, I guess."http://mailman.linuxtag.org/pipermail/debian-knoppix/2003-March/002246.html

I'm sure everybody can understand Klaus needs some sleep. But couldn't anybody else throw this thing on the mirrors? Hey, that's perhaps another *week*. And there are some people, as it seems, who want it from the official mirrors.

paranouei
03-19-2003, 10:20 AM
I just put the knoppix iso image in the edonkey (emule, mldonkey) network, here is the elink: ed2k://|file|Knoppix-3.2_from_CeBit-18-03-2003.iso|722808832|7091983943220C67420787BB26AEBD8 6

Cheers.

audioaficionado
03-19-2003, 06:01 PM
I found it on one of the official German mirrors !!!

http://source.rfc822.org/pub/mirror/knoppix/knoppix-3.2-cebit-rip.iso

I'm pulling it down @ 90kB/s or 720kbps :D

qa1433
03-19-2003, 06:10 PM
audioaficionado,
Thanks!
paul

MichielioZ
03-19-2003, 07:20 PM
Thnx Paul, now downloading with 2mb/s (!)
Hopefully this one (probably the same as the .bin version) will use my network card after HDD install....

audioaficionado
03-19-2003, 07:41 PM
Thnx Paul, now downloading with 2mb/s (!)
Hopefully this one (probably the same as the .bin version) will use my network card after HDD install....

It's a rip of what Klaus was handing out at CEBit 8)

qa1433
03-19-2003, 09:35 PM
Just so you all know 3.2 is beautiful :P
I am on it now. Only a lang prob in boot. The cheatcode for lang works great!
kool,
paul 8)

MichielioZ
03-19-2003, 09:54 PM
If you have WinISO (on Windows if you still have it ;)), you can just open the ISO file and delete the boot.img and boot-DE.img .... after this just rename the boot-EN.img to boot.img and save the ISO... now you won't have anymore problems with German language...

qa1433
03-19-2003, 10:04 PM
MichielioZ,
I don't have WinISO. But I probably can dowload a trial. Thanks for the tip! I will give it a whirl tonight.
paul

thewalkingman
03-19-2003, 10:50 PM
wouldnt boot for me :(

audioaficionado
03-20-2003, 12:44 AM
wouldnt boot for me :(

It's buggy for me too. After the third boot try I got in.

1) First you've got to hit F2 right after the boot screen starts.

2) If you're an english speaker you have to type 'knoppix lan=us'.
(your 'shift+0) is the German placement of '=' on a us key board I found.

3) If you only get funny looking wavey lines then the default Xserver isn't working for your system. Try 'xserver=XFree86|XF86_SVGA' without the quotes one space after the 'knoppix lan=us'

'knoppix lan=us xserver=XFree86|XF86_SVGA' like this without the quotes of course.

It worked for me. This is a great looking distro once you get in.

Have fun :D

true1ever
03-20-2003, 12:51 AM
I am getting between 400 and 500 Kbytes per second... should have the entire iso in about half an hour. By the way, is this identical to the one available via Bittorrent?

audioaficionado
03-20-2003, 01:00 AM
Yes this is the same one:

http://source.rfc822.org/pub/mirror/knoppix/knoppix-3.2-cebit-rip.iso

audioaficionado
03-20-2003, 01:36 AM
If you have WinISO (on Windows if you still have it ;)), you can just open the ISO file and delete the boot.img and boot-DE.img .... after this just rename the boot-EN.img to boot.img and save the ISO... now you won't have anymore problems with German language...

Can this app also allow text edits in existing .bat and scripting files within an ISO and then save the results as a bootable ISO image when you're done?

MichielioZ
03-20-2003, 01:43 AM
Can this app also allow text edits in existing .bat and scripting files within an ISO and then save the results as a bootable ISO image when you're done?

Yes it can, but you can't do it "on-the-fly", you'll have to extract the script/file and edit it outside the ISO.. later you can reinsert the new file and let it replace the original.
Easiest way to use it for me though, was to just extract the entire ISO into a KNOPPIX folder on HDD and boot from a CD with the boot.img on it.
This way you can test the Knoppix ISO and even install to HDD from it...
Hope anybody found this info helpfull... 8)

robelanator
03-20-2003, 03:43 AM
Downloaded the BitTorrent iso, burned the CD, did the hard drive install, and I'm now posting this from my working linux installation.

Looks and works great! Thanks to all those who sacrificed some bandwidth to share the .iso!

tsaelee
03-20-2003, 07:21 AM
Here's an ISO I am hosting on my website. It's the default German language. enjoy!

http://mienh.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=1

MeglaW
03-20-2003, 08:54 AM
great. got it @ 90kbps. :)

still, boots up in 640x480 on my laptop, even if i start it with 'knoppix lang=us fb1024x786'

and still it wont detect my intel wlan card. :(

audioaficionado
03-20-2003, 10:20 AM
Here's my update:

At first I couldn't even boot into knx3.2, the default Xserver didn't work, default lang was DE and no wheel mouse :(

So I just hit F2 and typed in a long list of cheats to get me to where I wanted to go.

After I spent a few hours tweaking Knoppix I went to the 'K-menu/Knoppix/Configure/Save Knoppix Configurations. Well I clicked the button and chose save eveything to one of my spare HD partitions :wink:

Now when booting I just hit F2 and then type 'knoppix myconf=scan' and it all comes back except my imported wallpaper. I just remount the partition it's on and then get it back. It's still pathed in the desktop wallpaper menu as a choice but it couldn't load durring boot because the partitions don't auto mount.

I can't get the screensaver or my cups printer drivers to work yet. That's for tomorrow :lol:

seth
03-20-2003, 11:52 AM
Hi I've got it from my friend which was on CeBIT :D.
But I'll rather wait for official release, because I preffer EN version
and this one from CeBIT has by default german keyboard layout probably :?

Does somebody know if Klaus plan to add into official release some of
last days serious security updates (like samba, OpenSSL with patch against time sidechannel attack ...)? Is Klaus reading this news thread?
If so, hi, I am one of your fans! 8)

Really cool distribution, still playing with that and investigating. What I miss is some user-friendly VPN configurator ... because I am not a VPN guru :( - or maybe I'll try to run some VPN client from my Win installation through wine, but I dont believe it will work ... Or somebody already tried ?

cu, seth

BTW: When trying air-snort - I don't have wi-fi card - I am able freez Knoppix completelly via some menu actions ....

mag
03-20-2003, 03:02 PM
I have downloaded Knoppix 3.2 from http://source.rfc822.org/pub/mirror/knoppix/knoppix-3.2-cebit-rip.iso. I guess I have been having this problem with the releases after the November release. The problem is that after initial boot and hardware detection the X server never starts and the screen goes blank no error messages nothing. Reboot is needed to get out of this. I have a ATI Rage 128 32Mb video card. I'nm wondering if anyone has had this problem. Is there any cheat code that I can enter to solve this? Any help appreciated.

Thank you,
mag
:(

oscar
03-20-2003, 03:39 PM
Yes this is the same one:

http://source.rfc822.org/pub/mirror/knoppix/knoppix-3.2-cebit-rip.iso

hi, this is the md5 for the iso I have just downloaded

5ab8f8e1900cf20f4e667f7c17f4e976 *drivers/knoppix-3.2-cebit-rip.iso


anybody may confirm it?

thanks

audioaficionado
03-20-2003, 03:41 PM
I have downloaded Knoppix 3.2 from http://source.rfc822.org/pub/mirror/knoppix/knoppix-3.2-cebit-rip.iso. I guess I have been having this problem with the releases after the November release. The problem is that after initial boot and hardware detection the X server never starts and the screen goes blank no error messages nothing. Reboot is needed to get out of this. I have a ATI Rage 128 32Mb video card. I'nm wondering if anyone has had this problem. Is there any cheat code that I can enter to solve this? Any help appreciated.
Thank you,
mag

I had the same problem. Re-read the earlier posts on this thread as the answer has already been posted by me and others.

audioaficionado
03-20-2003, 03:44 PM
Yes this is the same one:

http://source.rfc822.org/pub/mirror/knoppix/knoppix-3.2-cebit-rip.iso

hi, this is the md5 for the iso I have just downloaded

5ab8f8e1900cf20f4e667f7c17f4e976 *drivers/knoppix-3.2-cebit-rip.iso


anybody may confirm it?

thanks

Just run an md5 checksum utility on your ISO and compare it to the one posted at the mirror. They have to match exactly or some file corruption may have occured.

mag
03-20-2003, 03:53 PM
Would you please tell me what cheatcodes you exactly entered to make it work? I appreciate your help.

Thank you,
mag




I have downloaded Knoppix 3.2 from http://source.rfc822.org/pub/mirror/knoppix/knoppix-3.2-cebit-rip.iso. I guess I have been having this problem with the releases after the November release. The problem is that after initial boot and hardware detection the X server never starts and the screen goes blank no error messages nothing. Reboot is needed to get out of this. I have a ATI Rage 128 32Mb video card. I'nm wondering if anyone has had this problem. Is there any cheat code that I can enter to solve this? Any help appreciated.
Thank you,
mag

I had the same problem. Re-read the earlier posts on this thread as the answer has already been posted by me and others.

audioaficionado
03-20-2003, 04:59 PM
wouldnt boot for me :(

It's buggy for me too. After the third boot try I got in.

1) First you've got to hit F2 right after the boot screen starts.

2) If you're an english speaker you have to type 'knoppix lan=us'.
(your 'shift+0) is the German placement of '=' on a us key board I found.

3) If you only get funny looking wavey lines then the default Xserver isn't working for your system. Try 'xserver=XFree86|XF86_SVGA' without the quotes one space after the 'knoppix lan=us'

'knoppix lan=us xserver=XFree86|XF86_SVGA' like this without the quotes of course.

It worked for me. This is a great looking distro once you get in.

Have fun :D

Also...

It's got English support but the default is German of course because Klaus is German. I'm in English mode now and it works great.

When you first boot it up hit F2 to get to the cheat codes. Then just type in 'knoppix lang=us' You'll have to use 'shift+0' to get an '=' due to that's where the Germans have it on their keyboards.

If you have a wheel mouse then type 'wheelmouse' after the first cheat code you entered. You only have to type knoppix once in front of all the other arguments/commands and then separate them with one space. If you have a problem with the default Xserver like I did, you just select another one from the cheat codes menu. I went with XFree86 and all went well.

Once you've gotten into knoppix and tweaked it for awhile, go to the K-menu/Knoppix/Configure/Save Knoppix configuration and click the buttons and save your configurations to a spare area of your HD.

Next boot hit F2 and just type in 'knoppix myconfig=scan' and it all will come back. This is very close to a HD install exept it's not installed to the HD. The only thing that goes on your HD is a ~10Mb config file and whatever size swap file you've configured through the same menu tree you use to setup the Persistant Home configuration files.

Note: You can just enter that master config cheat right from the first boot screen and not even bother with the F2 screen if you've memorized the codes.

oscar
03-20-2003, 05:05 PM
Yes this is the same one:

http://source.rfc822.org/pub/mirror/knoppix/knoppix-3.2-cebit-rip.iso

hi, this is the md5 for the iso I have just downloaded

5ab8f8e1900cf20f4e667f7c17f4e976 *drivers/knoppix-3.2-cebit-rip.iso


anybody may confirm it?

thanks

Just run an md5 checksum utility on your ISO and compare it to the one posted at the mirror. They have to match exactly or some file corruption may have occured.


...thanks, the above md5 cheksum is the one calculated on my iso and is equal to the one posted at the mirror, the obvious first place to look into :oops:

LinuxIdiot
03-20-2003, 08:48 PM
I ran the hd install and now LILO is screwed up, how can i edit the file from the cd based distro once booted up? I run it but it wont let me save I guess i need to enable write ability for that hda7? If so how do I go about doing that? I would really love to get into this distro :D, instead of using the boot cd

audioaficionado
03-20-2003, 09:21 PM
I ran the hd install and now LILO is screwed up, how can i edit the file from the cd based distro once booted up? I run it but it wont let me save I guess i need to enable write ability for that hda7? If so how do I go about doing that? I would really love to get into this distro :D, instead of using the boot cd

Right click on your HD where Knoppix was installed, mount and then set it for read/write.

Open up a console and su to be root. ./vim or other text editor within the console.

(cd /mnt/hd**/etc/lilo.conf) Open up the HD lilo conf file in the text editor, save a backup and then have at it. Save when you're done and give it a whirl.

qa1433
03-20-2003, 09:42 PM
Is there a linux version of WinISO? :?:
Thanks in advance for the help,
paul 8)

Stephen
03-20-2003, 11:27 PM
(cd /mnt/hd**/etc/lilo.conf) Open up the HD lilo conf file in the text editor, save a backup and then have at it. Save when you're done and give it a whirl.

After you edit and save lilo.conf run /sbin/lilo to commit the changes then re-boot.

LinuxIdiot
03-21-2003, 12:56 AM
Quick question, how would i edit the iso to include my default settings? Such as 1024x768 wheelmouse stuff like that?

audioaficionado
03-21-2003, 03:12 AM
(cd /mnt/hd**/etc/lilo.conf) Open up the HD lilo conf file in the text editor, save a backup and then have at it. Save when you're done and give it a whirl.

After you edit and save lilo.conf run /sbin/lilo to commit the changes then re-boot.

Oops! I should have been more specific than 'give it a whirl' :oops:

hherb
03-21-2003, 03:52 AM
(cd /mnt/hd**/etc/lilo.conf) Open up the HD lilo conf file in the text editor, save a backup and then have at it. Save when you're done and give it a whirl.

After you edit and save lilo.conf run /sbin/lilo to commit the changes then re-boot.

Oops! I should have been more specific than 'give it a whirl' :oops:

I'd expect that you have to chroot first, else lilo might just not do what you want. Or pass the desired configuration file as command line parameter to lilo.

RockMumbles
03-21-2003, 06:28 AM
LinuxIdiot

If you want to edit your cd so it boots with the proper boot parameters you would need to have the iso on your hd mount it and put your boot parameters in syslinux.cfg

Here are instructions I took from the S-Terminal website and edited for your purpose:

# Burning a modified KNOPPIX CD: Making minor changes to KNOPPIX is easy. It doesn't require huge resources like a full remastering, it just takes a little finesse. You just use the fact that the information from a KNOPPIX "floppyconfig" floppy can be added to the CD. The floppyconfig files can then be used to re-configure KNOPPIX automatically at boot time. Here's how to do it:

# First, mount the stock KNOPPIX iso and copy the files into a new directory:
# KNOPPIX-blah-blah.iso will be KNOPPIX_V3.1-2003-01-20-EN.iso etc.
mkdir /mnt/knoppix
losetup /dev/loop0 KNOPPIX-blah-blah.iso
mount /dev/loop0 /mnt/knoppix
mkdir /usr/src/new-knoppix

# This will take a while:
cp -r -a -p /mnt/knoppix/* /usr/src/new-knoppix/

# Clean up after ourselves:
umount /mnt/knoppix
losetup -d /dev/loop0


# Now, you will need to edit /usr/src/new-knoppix/KNOPPIX/syslinux.cfg
# add your boot parameters into the APPEND lines,
# for both:" DEFAULT vmlinuz " section and also " LABEL knoppix " section


# Finally, cook up the new iso image:
cd /usr/src/new-knoppix
mkisofs -pad -l -r -J -v -V "KNOPPIX" -b KNOPPIX/boot.img \
-c KNOPPIX/boot.cat -hide-rr-moved \
-o /usr/src/new-knoppix.iso .

Note the mkisofs (3) line(s) will need to be copied carefully, don't forget final . (period) you might want to make the mkisofs part into a script.

Then burn a new cd from new-knoppix.iso

rock

laurentbon
03-21-2003, 09:44 AM
I have done a HD install

3.2 seems to prevent me from starting another window manager than kde.
When I stop the kdm service and try to run ./xdm start, it says that xdm is not your default window manager so won't start it.

How can I run gnome instead of kde?

Any one an idea?

Cheers

MichielioZ
03-21-2003, 01:32 PM
laurentbon : please read the releasenotes from Klaus... 8)
It is stated in there that he took Gnome out of the loop for the time being, because it didn't work good yet...
It will return to you probebly in a later release..

laurentbon
03-21-2003, 03:39 PM
Douggghhhh!!!
That would explain a lot...

A shame for gnome... Have to wait for V3.3 then...

LinuxIdiot
03-21-2003, 04:31 PM
LinuxIdiot

If you want to edit your cd so it boots with the proper boot parameters you would need to have the iso on your hd mount it and put your boot parameters in syslinux.cfg

Here are instructions I took from the S-Terminal website and edited for your purpose:

# Burning a modified KNOPPIX CD: Making minor changes to KNOPPIX is easy. It doesn't require huge resources like a full remastering, it just takes a little finesse. You just use the fact that the information from a KNOPPIX "floppyconfig" floppy can be added to the CD. The floppyconfig files can then be used to re-configure KNOPPIX automatically at boot time. Here's how to do it:

# First, mount the stock KNOPPIX iso and copy the files into a new directory:
# KNOPPIX-blah-blah.iso will be KNOPPIX_V3.1-2003-01-20-EN.iso etc.
mkdir /mnt/knoppix
losetup /dev/loop0 KNOPPIX-blah-blah.iso
mount /dev/loop0 /mnt/knoppix
mkdir /usr/src/new-knoppix

# This will take a while:
cp -r -a -p /mnt/knoppix/* /usr/src/new-knoppix/

# Clean up after ourselves:
umount /mnt/knoppix
losetup -d /dev/loop0


# Now, you will need to edit /usr/src/new-knoppix/KNOPPIX/syslinux.cfg
# add your boot parameters into the APPEND lines,
# for both:" DEFAULT vmlinuz " section and also " LABEL knoppix " section


# Finally, cook up the new iso image:
cd /usr/src/new-knoppix
mkisofs -pad -l -r -J -v -V "KNOPPIX" -b KNOPPIX/boot.img \
-c KNOPPIX/boot.cat -hide-rr-moved \
-o /usr/src/new-knoppix.iso .

Note the mkisofs (3) line(s) will need to be copied carefully, don't forget final . (period) you might want to make the mkisofs part into a script.

Then burn a new cd from new-knoppix.iso

rock

Thanks for the instructions Rock, I will give this a whirl when i get home.

Thanks for the help with LILO audio dun worry ;) I knew about that part in fact I will have to run it again when I get home so it will boot into LILO instead of windows cuz I had to fixboot and fixmbr when I could not get my computer to boot into anything :( Hope this works I will let you all know if I met with success :) first off gonna try fixing my LILO problem then remastering knoppix to give to my friend hehe he hates having to type anything in to get this to work on his computer...lazy ass :roll:

audioaficionado
03-21-2003, 05:19 PM
I'll remaster mine too. First I'll get rid of all but the one EN boot.img to give me an extra 2.88Mb. Next I'll work on the boot parameters so it always picks up my saved configs without having to inter the knoppix myconfig=scan cheat code every time. It also would be nice if the congfig would automaticly save when I log off but I'd settle for a save button just above the log-off button.

LinuxIdiot
03-22-2003, 12:28 AM
I can not get it to save if i type

sudo kedit /mnt/hda7/etc/lilo.conf

it opens i edit then in the shell console i get this error

WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) \x08
Major opcode: *

here is a copy of my LILO


vga=791
# /etc/lilo.conf - See: `lilo(8)' and `lilo.conf(5)',
# --------------- `install-mbr(8)', `/usr/share/doc/lilo/',
# and `/usr/share/doc/mbr/'.

# +---------------------------------------------------------------+
# | !! Reminder !! |
# | |
# | Don't forget to run `lilo' after you make changes to this |
# | conffile, `/boot/bootmess.txt', or install a new kernel. The |
# | computer will most likely fail to boot if a kernel-image |
# | post-install script or you don't remember to run `lilo'. |
# | |
# +---------------------------------------------------------------+

# Support LBA for large hard disks.
#
lba32

# Overrides the default mapping between harddisk names and the BIOS'
# harddisk order. Use with caution.
#disk=/dev/hde
# bios=0x81

#disk=/dev/sda
# bios=0x80

# Specifies the boot device. This is where Lilo installs its boot
# block. It can be either a partition, or the raw device, in which
# case it installs in the MBR, and will overwrite the current MBR.
#
boot=/dev/hda

# Specifies the device that should be mounted as root. (`/')
#
root=/dev/hda7

# Enable map compaction:
# Tries to merge read requests for adjacent sectors into a single
# read request. This drastically reduces load time and keeps the
# map smaller. Using `compact' is especially recommended when
# booting from a floppy disk. It is disabled here by default
# because it doesn't always work.
#
# compact

# Installs the specified file as the new boot sector
# You have the choice between: bmp, compat, menu and text
# Look in /boot/ and in lilo.conf(5) manpage for details
#
install=/boot/boot-menu.b

# Specifies the location of the map file
#
map=/boot/map

# You can set a password here, and uncomment the `restricted' lines
# in the image definitions below to make it so that a password must
# be typed to boot anything but a default configuration. If a
# command line is given, other than one specified by an `append'
# statement in `lilo.conf', the password will be required, but a
# standard default boot will not require one.
#
# This will, for instance, prevent anyone with access to the
# console from booting with something like `Linux init=/bin/sh',
# and thus becoming `root' without proper authorization.
#
# Note that if you really need this type of security, you will
# likely also want to use `install-mbr' to reconfigure the MBR
# program, as well as set up your BIOS to disallow booting from
# removable disk or CD-ROM, then put a password on getting into the
# BIOS configuration as well. Please RTFM `install-mbr(8)'.
#
# password=tatercounter2000

# Specifies the number of deciseconds (0.1 seconds) LILO should
# wait before booting the first image.
#
delay=20

# You can put a customized boot message up if you like. If you use
# `prompt', and this computer may need to reboot unattended, you
# must specify a `timeout', or it will sit there forever waiting
# for a keypress. `single-key' goes with the `alias' lines in the
# `image' configurations below. eg: You can press `1' to boot
# `Linux', `2' to boot `LinuxOLD', if you uncomment the `alias'.
#
# message=/boot/bootmess.txt
prompt
timeout=150
# prompt
# single-key
# delay=100
# timeout=100

# Kernel command line options that apply to all installed images go
# here. See: The `boot-prompt-HOWO' and `kernel-parameters.txt' in
# the Linux kernel `Documentation' directory.
#
# append=""
append="hda=scsi hdb=scsi hdc=scsi hdd=scsi hde=scsi hdf=scsi hdg=scsi hdh=scsi apm=power-off nomce"

# Boot up Linux by default.
#
default=Linux

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-xfs
label=Linux
initrd=/boot/initrd.gz
read-only
# restricted
# alias=1

image=/vmlinuz.old
label=LinuxOLD
read-only
optional
# restricted
# alias=2

# If you have another OS on this machine to boot, you can uncomment the
# following lines, changing the device name on the `other' line to
# where your other OS' partition is.
#
# other=/dev/hda4
# label=HURD
# restricted
# alias=3
other=/dev/hda1
label="WinNT(hda1)"

other=/dev/hda5
label="WinNT(hda5)"

other=/dev/hda6
label="Linux(hda6)"

other=/dev/hdb1
label="WinNT(hdb1)"

other=/dev/loop0
label="Other(loop0)"



Question: If my windows partition is on hda1 and linux is on hda7 will i just need to change this one part?


# Specifies the boot device. This is where Lilo installs its boot
# block. It can be either a partition, or the raw device, in which
# case it installs in the MBR, and will overwrite the current MBR.
#
boot=/dev/hda

To:


# Specifies the boot device. This is where Lilo installs its boot
# block. It can be either a partition, or the raw device, in which
# case it installs in the MBR, and will overwrite the current MBR.
#
boot=/dev/hda1

audioaficionado
03-22-2003, 04:44 AM
I've got GRUB installed inspite of Debian's insistance of installing LILO. Looking at you LILO config file just gave me a headache. GRUB was a lot shorter and much simpler to configure.

YMMV

qa1433
03-28-2003, 12:09 PM
Audioaficionado,

How did you configure grub to boot?

paul 8)

audioaficionado
03-28-2003, 05:16 PM
Audioaficionado,

How did you configure grub to boot?

paul 8)

I kinda cheated and had Libranet install it by default. However GRUB has persisted on the MBR throughout two windows 2000 installs, complete formate/resinstall of Libernet and the apt-get conversion of Libranet to Debian testing.

If you have a linux system running, how helpful was 'man grub'?

I didn't install it but once you open the text config file (as root) you can see many commented lines about how to configure it. The only thing I did was to insert the example windows chain loader by cut and pasting it in front of the kernal loads without the # commenters.

qa1433
03-29-2003, 04:21 AM
Kool!

I am not strong at heart. Linux kind of scares me. I to use Libranet Grub installed when I bought 2.7 I need to give it a whirl. If I break it I can always re-install :cry:

Thanks for the help!
paul 8)