needed to configure network printer.....

[ira]

hallu all....

i need help on configuring/setting up printer. i am using a network printer and am now trying out using knoppix version 3.4. the kde printer wizard guided me along and when it came to a particular page, im stuck....

it asked for printer address--->is it the ip address of the printer or juz the name of the printer :? ?

it also asked for the port....again :? ?
there are a few options but i don really understand wat it wants.

i really need the printer configured....

if anyone could kindly help me, ur help is greatly appreciated...

thnx,
~ira~

[user unknown]

In conjunction with the question for the port, I would bet it is the ip-adress.
For the correct port-number, I don't know.
If your printermanual hasn't a hint, or the manufactors web-page, you could try to use nmap, to scan the printer for open ports:


nmap -v PRINTER_IP
with printer_ip being 192.168.99.11 or whatever.

[shah]

Hai again ira

I did some checking on printer server. The ip is actually the ip of the print server ( that small box) that connect from your hub/switch/router.... to your printer. If the box doesn't exist than it's not called printer server. So do the port, belongs to that box. Try googling on type of your print server and find the manual somewhere. Perhaps under your boss table. :D

[ira]

hai user unknown & shah,
thnx for da reply ya....
will try it todae....
will let u nice guyz noe da results ya....

p.s: shah....im not allowed to go under ma boss' table....FORBIDDEN! :lol:

thnx again,
~ira~

[ira]

hiya,

i fiddled around da printer juz now....
asked ma boss for da manual but din get....
but he saed dat printer is hard to configure even wif windows....
it is a D-Link server model DP-802....

so i went to figure out da configurations using da kde printer wizard(again)....
i got da printer ip address aredi so i juz scan da network for any open ports....

so it shows 192.168.x.x wif port 631....
i dono wat da 631 means so i juz go ahead n clicked Next....
i did it all da wae n finished everytin....
for da test print, da printer din even show any signs of receiving any data... :(

wana try da nmap thingy but dono how to go abt doin it.... :oops:
sorie ya....
im oni a windows grl b4 dis knoppix thingy....
help me pleash!!!

thnx,
~ira :cry: ~

[shah]

ira,
Okay la....(Singlish) :lol:

Your default print/internet server IP is: 192.168.100.1 (unless changed by someone)
and subnetmask : 255.255.255.0
Forget about the port.

Meaning, all your pc in LAN need to have I.P and Subnetmask according to the same protocol of your print server.
All PC in your LAN should have IP start with : 192.168.100.2........192.168.100.X
and Subnetmask : 255.255.255.0

You can also configure your print server to use different IP or to assing IP to your PC using DHCP. Damn this print server is powerfull ( actually it's an internet server)

You can configure this print server using telnet : telnet 192.168.100.1 or
much more easier way, using any web browser and enter this address on location bar:
http://192.168.100.1
If asked for password, just ignore it.

Okay I'll stop here until new question arise from configuring it.

Good luck :D :shock: :roll:

[user unknown]

631 is the port used by cups, the common unix printing system, to use.
So I woulnd't forget about that, but insert into the browser:


http:// 192.168.x.x:631/

That's at least the startingpoint for configuring the cups-printing system.

BTW: this singlish is very hard to understand for me. Could you try to use a language, where I find at least a dictionairy for?

[ira]

ellu,

errm....
sorry ya....
i forgot to ask....
do i need to configure the network first?

psst user unknown,
im sorry if you dont really understand what im writing....
im just used to write that way in msn :)

terima kasih(thank you in malay)
~ira~

[user unknown]

Kein Problem, ira, MSN erklärt natürlich so einiges...

You try to use a network printer, without having the network configured?

[ira]

hi U.U(user unknown),

ya....
i tried to configure the printer without configuring the network first....
its because i am also stuck trying to configure the network....
my boss asked me to configure the network printer first since he think that is easier....
so i just follow his instructions....
after all i am his subordinate :roll: ....

so now i have to configure the network huh?
gosh :( this is gonna be hard....
*sigh*

getting :? all over again,
~ira :cry: ~

[shah]

Youooohoooo..

I have to diasagree with User unknown. You can configure your print server without configuring your network. Your boss is right and always do :lol: :lol:

The way this printer server is configured, similar to configuring a router, infact it is a router cum print server. You only need to configure your network card before configuring it.

You can set your network later.

[ira]

yodelahihoo....

okie shah....
i tried your way just now....
went to http://192.168.0.100 ==>my boss changed it....
when using windows web browser, i can see the system server information....
when using knoppix web browser, "an error occurred while loading http://192.168.0.100/status.htm.
could not connect to host 192.168.0.100."
argh!!!!

but before that, since i had the server information already i went ahead with the set up wizard....
it comes to a page(the same page im stuck at) where it asked for printer information....
i did a network scan (network : 192.168.0.0-255) and it shows ip address 192.168.0.3....
so i thought maybe that is the printer's ip address and so i just click on next,next,next....
when it comes to a test print, our printer did not even receive any data....
so its totally frustrating when i cant click on finish....

thnx(im gonna be bald!!),
~ira (-.-)~

[shah]

Okay
Lets do step by step....
This procedure is for knoppix
1) Before run any web browsing to configure print server (which you did in windows) you need to set your network card. Run network card configuration. Assign IP address : 192.168.0.X (*x = don't use 100, already reserved to print server) Make sure it doesn't conflict with other pc.
netmask :255.255.255.0

2) Setup your printer using wizard and the ip is : 192.168.0.100 (what your boss set) and port : 631.
Don't scan, just click <next>. If success it will list all the printer driver. Select your printer type and model. Follow the instruction till end.

[ira]

so sorry....

how do you configure the network card?
it will come out the black screen right?

~ira~

[shah]

Caranya:
1) Click Penguin icon di bawah---> Network-->Networkcard configuration. Don't use dhcp.

[ira]

hehe....

pandai-pandai guna bahasa melayu....
terima kasih....
bear with me please....
thnx....

~ira~

[ira]

elo....

did those things you said....
ip address : 192.168.0.3
netmask : 255.255.255.0
default gateway : 192.168.0.1
that done....

did the wizard....
keyed in the ip : 192.168.0.100
error msg appeared....
"no printer found at this address/port!"

:cry: sedih saya....

~ira~

[shah]

netcardconfig okay

cuba scan dengan same IP: 192.168.0.100 dan port :631

Kalau tak boleh, cuba tukar gateway too : 192.168.0.100

[shah]

Forgot to ask, Is your port number really 631?

Please check using webrowser again. http://192.168.0.100

[ira]

hiey....
still cant work....

did those things you said(again)....
ip address : 192.168.0.3
netmask : 255.255.255.0
default gateway : 192.168.0.100
broadcast address : 192.168.0.255
nameserver : IS-D2D363
that done(again)....

guess what shah?

i cant login to the internet pula after i configure the network card....
adeh....sakit hati saya :evil: (angry not evil)

:cry: ,
~ira~

[shah]

I believed you are using DHCP for your network. Sebab itu tak dapat connect to internet after setting network card. Reset network card kepada asal,and please check again configuratuion print server.

[shah]

Manual yang saya jumpa : http://www.dlink.pl/docs/manuals/DP-802_manual.pdf

[ira]

heya,

the PDF file you gave me is the exact manual i found in my boss' filing cabinet....
(not under his table :wink: )
i read that and tried whatever it says....
my boss was there to help me....

but it still doesnt work so we put it off till tml....
thanks for being patient with me....

wonder where U.U gone....?
need all the help i can get....

~ira~

[user unknown]

I don't know the kde printer wizard and your printer-model, nor similiar printer-models.
I only setup my parallel-printer with linux so far, and used CUPS to make it available to other hosts, but I guess this is a very different task from setting up a network-printer, with builtin network capabilities.

The printer is using 192.168.0.100 and you use that as gateway-adress too?
This printer isn't an webserver and database-server too. :)

Port 631 is the internet-printer-protocol port (ipp)

grep 631 /etc/services
which is used from cups too.

Did you try http://PRINTER_IP:631/?
I guess your Browser will send request on port 80 by default, where normally webservers are listening.

[shah]

User Unknown

This print server can act as a modem router if properly set and you can print directly from net.

[ira]

hallo....

just came back from my 2 days medical leave....
been sick :(

now im back, been trying to configure the printer again....
all i did didn't work....
:cry:

tried everything you guys suggested to me....
still didn't work....

~ira~

[shah]

Kecian...

Forget to ask you,
1) Is your modem connected to your print server?
2) Is your printer supported by your print server?
3) Is your printer & print server working in other OS?

Nothing much I can help from here. If you have no other way to print using print server, just throw it away. Connect the printer to any pc or server and share that printer.

[shah]

Another thing to try:
Run this under konsole:
arp -s 192.168.0.100 "printserver mac address"
*change printserver mac address with printserver mac address printed on your printserver.

or try this

telnet 192.168.0.100
select Port configuration, it will show your port name. Something like PS-62C609-P1.

When you got the port name, Start with printer wizard, this time we will use Remote LPD Queue.
Host: 192.168.0.100 (whatever your printserver ip is)
Queue : port name

:D

[ira]

heehee....
kecian eh kite....

regarding your questions....

1) Is your modem connected to your print server?
~>there is a modem connection for internet server but we are not using it
2) Is your printer supported by your print server?
~>any printer is supported by the print server.they just connect using parallel port.
3) Is your printer & print server working in other OS?
~>yes, working well in windows 95, 98, ME and 2000

*all answers provided by my boss

my boss says if i can't get the printer working with knoppix, he's going to change to mandrake.... :shock:
huh?sounds like an orange to me.... :lol:
and the worse thing is....
i got to fiddle with that mandrake too....*sigh

~ira~

[shah]

any printer is supported by the print server.they just connect using parallel port.

Not all printer can work with printserver eventhough it's connected to parellel port.

Certain printers may not work with print servers because they do not have command interpreters built in to the printer. Such printers are designed to operate only when connected directly to a computer and will not be able to function on a network. Especialy GDI and PPA printer.
Since your printer can be used by windoooze, then it's okay.

Mandrake is a good choice interm of easy installation and their hardrake is good too. I used it many many moons ago, then redhat, then suse, gentoo....you named it. I got bored, until I found knoppix and then kanotix.

[ira]

ya ok....
i'll try everything again....
if i still can't get it to work, i'll have to start reading up on mandrake....
:roll:
hehe....


Mandrake is a good choice interm of easy installation and their hardrake is good too. I used it many many moons ago, then redhat, then suse, gentoo....you named it. I got bored, until I found knoppix and then kanotix.

many moons ago????
so knoppix is the newest huh? :shock:

gosh....
you tried so many????
wondering how old are you.... :wink:

anyway....
thnx a lot ya....
both of you....
for helping me and being patient with me....
thank you....

many thanks,
~ira~