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thebyrd
12-08-2004, 05:03 AM
hello,

i am currently using the Knoppix CD as my OS. i am trying to get data off of a hard drive that seemed to have "good data" in windows...but it was inaccessible to me.

can someone help me get data from one hard drive to another in knoppix?

i'm trying to figure it out by reading through these forums...so far no luck...

Thanks,

Keith

Harry Kuhman
12-08-2004, 05:23 AM
can someone help me get data from one hard drive to another in knoppix?
Where's the other drive? On the same system?

If so, make sure the other drive isn't NTFS (Knoppix can not safely write to NTFS), then just make sure that you mount the other drive as read-write (Knoppix defaults to opening hard drives as read only for safety). See the man page for the rw switch on mount for details. From there you should be able to move all the files you want (if they are still viable on the disk).

If you're trying to move the data to another computer, there are many ways to do so, and lots of people have different opnions based on what they know. I would use FTP (because that's what I know). Some people have suggested using Samba to share files between Knoppix and a Windows system. I've been able to get as far as being able to see the Knoppix computer in my Windows network neighborhood, but have never managed to see or move a file across the network that way. There may be some other tricks that you could use to copy the file from Knoppix to Knoppix if you boot Knoppix on multiple computers. And you could use another live distro to write the files to CDR (I like Damn Small Linux for this becuase the distro can either be put on a multi-session CDR with plenty of space for recovered files, or it can be loaded "toram" so you can swap out the CD and write to as many complete CD's as needed.

Good Luck.

thebyrd
12-08-2004, 05:31 AM
thanks for the response...

all of my drives (except the boot and swap partitions) are NTFS...

the problem, i believe, is that the Knoppix is not "seeing" the drives...

i tried captive NTFS...and it found the drivers, but it didn't find any NTFS partitions..

?

any ideas?

the problem is that in windows xp pro, i can't access some files that appear to be on a separate hard drive from my boot drive...i "control-x/control v'd" them there from an older hard drive before i upgraded the hard drives in my system...and now i don't have "access" to them

thanks for the help,

keith

Harry Kuhman
12-08-2004, 05:50 AM
all of my drives (except the boot and swap partitions) are NTFS...

the problem, i believe, is that the Knoppix is not "seeing" the drives...

i tried captive NTFS...and it found the drivers, but it didn't find any NTFS partitions..
Knoppix can see NTFS partitions just fine. It sees mine on my Xp notebook with no problem at all.

I'll not clear what you are saying? Are the files that you need on one of the partitions that you can see, or are they on the now missing partitions? If the files that you want are on one of the directories that you can see, then I would shrink the other partitions enough to make space for the files, and add a FAT partition (or even add another drive with a FAT partition). IMHO, this isn't the time to be starting to work with captive NTFS.

If the files that you want to recover are on the now missing NTFS partitions, then why do you think the files are still there to be recovered? (At least with Knoppix, although some of the forensic disk recovery tools might have a shot.)


the problem is that in windows xp pro, i can't access some files that appear to be on a separate hard drive from my boot drive...i "control-x/control v'd" them there from an older hard drive before i upgraded the hard drives in my system...and now i don't have "access" to them
You control-x/control-v'd them? What the heck is that? Have you still got that older hard drive handy?

eco2geek
12-08-2004, 09:08 AM
You control-x/control-v'd them? What the heck is that?

Windows-speak for "I moved the files from one drive to the other" (as opposed to merely copying them). Ctrl-X = cut; Ctrl-V = paste.

What do you mean, you don't have "access" to your files in Windows? Does the partition show up in Windows Explorer? Are you saying that you don't have permission to access them?

As far as Knoppix goes, all your hard disk partitions show up as hard disk icons on the KDE desktop, but you can't see their content until you mount them (which is easily done by right-clicking on the icon, which brings up a context menu, and choosing "mount").

robwelch100
12-09-2004, 07:59 AM
Given that we don't know the details asked by the prior posters, I will throw out that windows may be doing the classic active partition hiding. Of course this could only be the case if you no longer have access to the partition. (if that sounds right then you will have to unhide the partition) If you still have access to the partition and even see the files (in windows) then they may be corrupt. Either way knoppix reads ntfs just fine and you should be able copy your corrupt files just fine.

eco2geek
12-09-2004, 10:18 AM
That was my thought too -- but. Windows used to have a limitation that it couldn't "see" more than one primary partition on a hard disk. Since Win2K, that is no longer the case. Partitions (both primary and logical) can be hidden and unhidden using the Disk Management part of the Computer Management console (you have to have administator rights, of course).

So I don't understand what thebyrd means when he says his drive is "inaccessible" to him, since he copied the data there in the first place.

More information needed.