KDE & GNOME

[Jameson]

I was wondering if anyone could share the cons and pros and their prefrences when it comes to GUI's avaible in Linux, espically the 2 more popular ones KDE and GNOME. I've used them both and since I've been able to get all the aps I like (Firefox etc) running on both I really can't descide which I like better.

-Jameson

[OErjan]

i like icewm, mainly because it is small fast (less of a drain on system) and can be nmade to look great.
kde and gnome are both good and i would lean towards gnome for its slightly lower footprint (no, i am not refering to the logo) and that it seems to be more stable (for me, for you who knows).

[eco2geek]

Your post made me stop and think about why I like KDE so much better than GNOME (I've never used any of the more lightweight GUIs except when I had to, for lack of RAM).

The main reason seems to be that I somehow made the choice to use KDE as my default window manager when I installed Red Hat years ago (even though it defaults to GNOME), and through all the upgrades and distros I've used since then, I've stuck with it.

After taking a closer look at GNOME, I could live with it, but I definitely like KDE's cosmetics better. And (the biggie) I like the look 'n' feel of KDE's file manager (Konqueror) much, much more than Nautilus.

So try them both. A lot of it has to do with your personal preference.

One note: if you use the same user account to run both GNOME and KDE, you might end up with some icons on your desktop that were created by one, that don't work with the other. If this annoys you, you might want to make separate user accounts, one for running GNOME, the other for running KDE.

[shah]

Try XFCE4................it's something like in-between KDE and Gnome.
echo "deb http://www.os-cillation.de/debian binary/" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get update
apt-get install xfce4

or use synaptic, easier for you to see what other packages for Xfce4......plugin,themes, util...
Mzilikazi has wrote how to Xfce4, the link as below:
Screenshot : http://69.170.115.162:8080/xfce4/screens/
or if you want to integrate ROX with XFCE4:
http://69.170.115.162:8080/howtos/XFCE4_ROX_Desktop_Howto.html

Screen shot from mzilikazi site:
http://69.170.115.162:8080/xfce4/screens/xfce4%232.jpg
:D

[Jameson]

Thanks for the replies.

I beleve the main reason that I've been using KDE is that all the beginner friendly distros tend to deafult to it. But the extra insight has really helped. Lately I've been using both KDE and GNOME and I think I tend to lean towards KDE becuase it seems alot more organised and professional looking and GNOME seems more laid back and a bit less user friendly.

Shah: I really like the screenshot and would like to try it out but when I went to use apt-get it (as-usal since my upgrade) gave me a "could not find package xfce4"

Thanks again!

-Jameson

[eco2geek]

If you want to take a closer look at XFCE in a live CD setting, you can download the newest Morphix (http://www.morphix.org) "light GUI" CD from this Sourceforge location (http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/morphix/MorphixCombined-LightGUI-0.5-pre4.iso?download) (~258MB ISO image). It runs XFCE 4.2.

(It's still beta and the biggest "gotcha" after a short run seems to be that it uses kernel 2.6.9 with the new "ub" USB block device but still wants to mount USB keys on /dev/sdax, and has no ubax nodes in /dev, so you can't save a persistent home on a USB key. Using USB peripherals is also problematic.)

Oh, after dinking around with GNOME for a while, my impression of it is that it has fewer "power tools" than KDE, and is geared more to new users (not trolling, just my opinion).

[shah]

or get kanotix based XFCE4 iso
http://files.bamsefar.net/XFCE/
:D

[eco2geek]

Interesting! About that xorg.iso -- it seems like every other distro's moved to X.org. Is Debian going to make the switch (in Sid) any time soon?

[chris-harry]

just a small question... is the x.org bringing in all the distros togeather?

[garyng]

Interesting! About that xorg.iso -- it seems like every other distro's moved to X.org. Is Debian going to make the switch (in Sid) any time soon?

Not in the near future. At least wait the next ubuntu get released then it may be feeded back to debian(the debian X maintainer works on ubuntu most of the time now, on Xorg xserver). Introducing Xorg to debian is a huge task because of all the platforms(11?) it must support.

[champagnemojo]

You can also apt-get the latest xfce4 from os-cillation. Follow the instructions here (http://www.os-works.com/view/debian/). I've used KDE,gnome and IceWM in the past, but XFCE4 is by far my favorite now.

[jjmac]

champagnemojo

Why ?

I use "fvwm" myself, but i think it's more a lack
of Mhz, along with it just being familiar from
earlier RH installs (AnotherLevel) which determined that.

fvwm does have a lot of hidden power though, which
is rarly used. Only because it needs to be
configured in :roll:

So, just wondering on your thoughts for "xfce4"


jm