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chart
04-07-2003, 07:48 PM
Hi,

I was a bit surprised I couldn't get galeon installed after the obligatory "apt-get update" on an HD-installed Knoppix 3.2 (28 March EN) - no sources changed:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
galeon: Conflicts: mozilla-browser (>= 2:1.0.1)

As I don't have a lot of debian experience, I thought I should seek your advice, since galeon is my favourite browser (mostly), plus I always thought it was easy to install! A few other bits and pieces aren't the version I want them, in Python there are both 2.1 and 2.2 installed with 2.1 the "default", a python2.2-xml was compiled against some other minor version and won't install - is it wise for me to fetch the .tgz source for my Python things and configure;make them? Is this going to mess up the upgradabiity of my Knoppix, or is Knoppix perhaps such a hack that can't safely be "apt-get upgrade"d or "dist-upgrade"d?

For filesharing, the default sources do come up with lmule for an eMule lookalike, but no mldonkey etc could be found, nor do I see any Kazza options (as usual, I expect Kazaa to work under wine)
Thanks,

Chris

Viro
04-07-2003, 08:24 PM
A few other bits and pieces aren't the version I want them, in Python there are both 2.1 and 2.2 installed with 2.1 the "default", a python2.2-xml was compiled against some other minor version and won't install - is it wise for me to fetch the .tgz source for my Python things and configure;make them? Is this going to mess up the upgradabiity of my Knoppix, or is Knoppix perhaps such a hack that can't safely be "apt-get upgrade"d or "dist-upgrade"d?

I did apt-get update, followed by apt-get install python. As far as I can tell, the python version that I use by default is 2.2. I don't know what's wrong with your install, but when you did apt-get update, did it successfully retrieve package lists from all the mirrors? Or did some fail? If some did, try doing 'apt-get update' again.


For filesharing, the default sources do come up with lmule for an eMule lookalike, but no mldonkey etc could be found, nor do I see any Kazza options (as usual, I expect Kazaa to work under wine)

There is no KaZaa option under Linux. As for the other programs, you could always download them separately and install them. AFAIK, installing from source doesn't prevent distribution upgrades, which is cool.

Henk Poley
04-07-2003, 08:55 PM
For filesharing, the default sources do come up with lmule for an eMule lookalike, but no mldonkey etc could be found, nor do I see any Kazza options (as usual, I expect Kazaa to work under wine)
Uhm, sorry. But you expect Windows programs packaged for Debian? Wine does a wonderfull job, but it's still a big hack. And then, out of all shareing programs, Kazaa! You will need to read this response with a bit of a *wink*, but still.

Who could ever invent a program to swap files on a "this link might hold *bzzzz*" network that is inherently bound to p2p -normal PCs will log off now and then- without propper checksums? I know, userbase, etc. The eDonkey network is big too, Gnutella2 might become a biggy (too?).

btw, there are more p2p clients packaged for Debian:
Gtk-Gnutella - (stable (http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/gtk-gnutella.html)) (unstable (http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/gtk-gnutella.html))
pyslsk, a SoulSeek (http://www.slsk.org/) client - (unstable (http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/pyslsk.html))

You can find more via these Debian-package seaches:
"gnutella" (http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gnutella&searchon=all&subword=1&version=all&release=all) in description.
"napster" (http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=napster&searchon=all&subword=1&version=stable&release=all) in description.

Misc:
Hagelslag (http://tiefighter.et.tudelft.nl/hagelslag/), a gnutella client.
iNoize (http://www.inoize.com/), music ordered be artist, genre, whatever.
Furthur (http://furthurnet.org/), only shares legaly live-taped content, with the artists permission.

I don't know a fix for the galeon browser nor python2.2-xml, I guess manually installing them should work. If I was you I would check why they say it can't be run next to mozilla.

rickenbacherus
04-07-2003, 08:55 PM
For filesharing, the default sources do come up with lmule for an eMule lookalike, but no mldonkey etc could be found, nor do I see any Kazza options (as usual, I expect Kazaa to work under wine)
Thanks,

Chris

edonkey was quite easy to install on Knoppix 3.2
http://www.edonkey2000.com/ The 'C' GUI will work without installing anything extra.
Qtella is an easy install (if you have the QT libraries) but I'll be damned if I can get it to connect to anything.

As far as your browser situation goes Knoppix does have Konqueror. A vastly superior browser compared to Mozilla IMHO. If you really want Galeon you should be able to use KPackage Manager to remove Mozilla. I cannot say that will work for sure though but I'll be trying it out myself in a few days.