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j!m
04-02-2005, 07:51 AM
Hi

I would like to us knoppix to do some development. I am making a half-life2 modification and I need to compile the .so libs for linux dedicated servers. I have knoppix 2.6 and 2.7 and can use either. The reason I am trying this is because knoppix is the only linux that detected all my hardware and even allows me to get on the internet with no problem which says alot for the distro.

So my question is can I do this?

GCC 3.4.1 or above ( http://gcc.gnu.org ).
Xerces XML parser 2.6.0 or above ( http://xml.apache.org/xerces-c/ ).
GLIBC 2.3.2 or above.

I need those 3 exact programs to compile I would like to use those exact versions because people have said newer ones dont compile the code cause valve cant seem to keep things compliant. I would first like some advice should I try to get them installed on a home dir I have already placed on my computer and get that to work or should I try to build a new knoppix CD with those things installed (that would be cool cause I could offer it to other HL2 modders who are not good with linux like me), on the other hand it may be over my head and just not something I can pull off. Or is this whole project just not going to work with knoppix?

turbinater
04-03-2005, 01:27 AM
Hi

I would like to us knoppix to do some development. I am making a half-life2 modification and I need to compile the .so libs for linux dedicated servers. I have knoppix 2.6 and 2.7 and can use either. The reason I am trying this is because knoppix is the only linux that detected all my hardware and even allows me to get on the internet with no problem which says alot for the distro.

So my question is can I do this?

GCC 3.4.1 or above ( http://gcc.gnu.org ).
Xerces XML parser 2.6.0 or above ( http://xml.apache.org/xerces-c/ ).
GLIBC 2.3.2 or above.

I need those 3 exact programs to compile I would like to use those exact versions because people have said newer ones dont compile the code cause valve cant seem to keep things compliant. I would first like some advice should I try to get them installed on a home dir I have already placed on my computer and get that to work or should I try to build a new knoppix CD with those things installed (that would be cool cause I could offer it to other HL2 modders who are not good with linux like me), on the other hand it may be over my head and just not something I can pull off. Or is this whole project just not going to work with knoppix?

The easiest way is to just install knoppix, and run this command as root:


apt-get update && apt-get install gcc-3.4 libc6-dev libxerces26-dev make automake


That should update your package list, and install some handy developement tools.

Also, if you don't have any experience programming on unix-like platforms, you'll probably want to check out the documentation for gcc, automake, and gnu make. A usefull tool (if you like ide's... I don't) is kdevelope.

A list of usefull libraries for game (and multimedia) programming:
SDL
Openal
Opengl

Once you get the hang of programming on unix-like platforms, everything should be a piece of cake.

j!m
04-03-2005, 03:16 AM
can I specify 3.4.1 for gcc? because i notice they are at 3.4.3 now and i would like to have the exact versions that valve asks us to use.

also i would like clarification when you say install knoppix do you mean anything different then just booting it up with the cd currently i do this with home=scan and i have a persistent home dir on my hard drive

turbinater
04-04-2005, 07:47 PM
can I specify 3.4.1 for gcc? because i notice they are at 3.4.3 now and i would like to have the exact versions that valve asks us to use.


gcc 3.4.1 is no longer on the debian mirrors, you can try to download the source and compile it, but the download is around 30 megs, plus there's the risk it might not work. Also, the last number is only the revision version, which means gcc 3.4.1 probably has bugs that have been fixed in 3.4.3, and there should be no major differences between the two.



also i would like clarification when you say install knoppix do you mean anything different then just booting it up with the cd currently i do this with home=scan and i have a persistent home dir on my hard drive

I meant it's a lot easier to install knoppix to hard drisk (ie. you are running knoppix off your hard drive with no cd), because, you can't really install debian packages from the knoppix cd without either:

1) Passing --root=<writtable directory>, and --admindir=<writtable directory> to dpkg when installing the packages, and then changing several environment variables, so everything knows where gcc is.

2) Or Re-mastering the cd