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eadz
11-12-2002, 07:36 AM
Since KNOPPIX-29-08-2002, KNOPPIX has been able to boot other computers via PXE [?] (http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/P/PXE.html), now since version 31-10-2002, it can also boot (http://mailman.linuxtag.org/pipermail/debian-knoppix/2002-November/001026.html) computers via etherboot (http://www.etherboot.org), I havn't tested it, but can see the that the changes have been made.

Tigren
11-13-2002, 02:04 AM
I also have not tried it, though I would like more info on it. Sounds cool.

Fabian
11-15-2002, 04:20 PM
I was the one, who had the idea how to impldment this, so I can say, that this really works :-)

Quick-Tutorial:

- Start Knoppix with CD on computer 1...
- Start knoppix-terminalserver (Choose the richt network-card, you want to use in computer two, which shall boot from network)

Make an floppydisk for you NIC (network interface card) from www.rom-o-matic.net ... (lzdsk)

cat eb-5.0.7-xx.lzdsk > /dev/floppy (Say: Write image to floppy ;-) )

Boot computer two from floppy ...

Choose boot from network, when asked (press 'n')

Finished :-)

Now your computer two should get the bootdisk from computer-1 and you should soon see the normal boot-prompt ...

After setting some or no options it should boot knoppix just normal :-)

Useful for computers without a cdrom-drive or for presentations, where many computers shall be started with knoppix :-)

cu

Fabian

aay
11-17-2002, 07:05 AM
Fabian,

Thanks for the tips! This sounds really neat and looks quite easy. I look forward to giving it a try. I have one computer where the hard drive is shot, but it is otherwise ok. I might use this network setup to make use of it. Is it possible to gain read/write access to the drive of computer 1 from computer 2? Again thanks for the tip and please share any other info that you find out.

12-03-2002, 03:10 PM
I tried it in the past Sunday with my friend's network and it works. Quite asy to do as well. One thing my friend and I are quite confused is that it seems not to be a terminal server in usual way. The client runs processes in it's cpu as well as in the Knoppix terminal server side. It is much like a Fit client as Shaolin's Aptus rather than a traditional thin client. Is it true?

eadz
12-03-2002, 10:50 PM
I tried it in the past Sunday with my friend's network and it works. Quite asy to do as well. One thing my friend and I are quite confused is that it seems not to be a terminal server in usual way. The client runs processes in it's cpu as well as in the Knoppix terminal server side. It is much like a Fit client as Shaolin's Aptus rather than a traditional thin client. Is it true?

Yes it is a kind of fat-client-server.
I think they mad add an option to connect to the server the traditional way in later versions.

linuxfan
12-06-2002, 04:00 PM
well, u can use knx as a thin client, too:

start computer 2 (client) on runlevel 2 (at boot prompt type 'knoppix 2'),
then use the terminal server's xdm/kdm/gdm, as you prefer. This is done by:
X -query your_server (issued on computer 2)

Well, some further customization is needed on the knx server, as some configs are symlinked read-only from the cd. U can delete and copy them instead, and while /etc is on the ramdisk, u can access it read-write.
I have done a 5-minute-work to start xdm the normal way, this is very much the same as it is written in LTSP's docs (see www.ltsp.org)
The most efficient way is to have knx installed onto HD, in that case you do not need to bother with access rights :) Any Q's are welcome, but i am short in time, so suspicious delays may occur in answers :)))

linuxfan

12-25-2002, 05:43 PM
First, let me say that I love Knoppix. The knoppix-terminalserver works like a charm when the server is booted from CD. However, when installed to the hard drive I get an error when starting with the knoppix-terminalserver command. After I complete the config dialogs, everything looks good except for this error: "cp: cannot stat `/dev/systty': No such file or directory". I have reinstalled knoppix and installed it on a different machine, same error when it runs from the hard drive. Both machines worked great from the CD.

When the client boots up it loads the knoppix screen and then pulls an IP via DHCP. Then I get the following error "can't NFSmount Knoppix file system, sorry. Dropping you to a (very limited) shell. Any ideas?

javakid
01-01-2003, 04:44 PM
I had the same experience. The terminal server works great when the server is running off of the CD, but the client cannot fails to mount when the server is running Knoppix from the hard drive.

I played with the settings for a day or two and gave up. But I would like to know how to resolve the issue. I just have too many irons in the fire to figure it out myself.

Tec
01-11-2003, 01:14 AM
I got stuck at the same spot, the 'very limited shell.'
I certainly wanted to play with it, but in my case, I
_was_ running from the CD, so apparently it's not ready for
prime time quite yet.

mns6070
01-11-2003, 01:34 AM
I had a problem booting etherboot clients with Knoppix 12-12-2002. The client would not configure the X server properly. I even tried doing a modprobe for the the video card, but that resulted in errors as well. The weird thing is that the client and the terminal server have the same video card! Any advice?

Guest NL
01-12-2003, 11:36 AM
If you do a hdinstall then you end up with a normal Debian config.

The terminal server in the Knoppix CD version is a script with some assumptions of your configuration that are not valid when you run it from harddisk.

One solution is to copy the BIG Knoppix file from the CD to the Windows C:\ directory (if you still have that) in the directory knoppix so the image will be in:
C:\knoppix\knoppix

If you boot from floppy (without the CD) then the image will be found and will be used as if it was the CD. Now start terminal server.

After this boot the diskless client and all will run OK, it is a lot quicker this way. I think this is the best solution for classroom project where more than 5 PC's work diskless.

Good luck and thanks to Dave Bechtel that gave the usefull hints.

Sanja
01-17-2003, 06:21 PM
Can you help me with ethernet boot!

! have i host computer with 2 real tek 8139 NIc card and guest with 1 real tek 8139 NIC card! The computers a connected via "crossower" cable! How to set ethernet boot? what options to enter in knoppix and how to configure network kard floppy from www.rom-o-matic.com ? please help!

A. Jorge Garcia
10-26-2003, 04:04 AM
If you do a hdinstall then you end up with a normal Debian config.

The terminal server in the Knoppix CD version is a script with some assumptions of your configuration that are not valid when you run it from harddisk.

One solution is to copy the BIG Knoppix file from the CD to the Windows C:\ directory (if you still have that) in the directory knoppix so the image will be in:
C:\knoppix\knoppix

If you boot from floppy (without the CD) then the image will be found and will be used as if it was the CD. Now start terminal server.

After this boot the diskless client and all will run OK, it is a lot quicker this way. I think this is the best solution for classroom project where more than 5 PC's work diskless.

Good luck and thanks to Dave Bechtel that gave the usefull hints.

OK, but what do you setup on the server side? I'm confused, terminal server only works off the CD? What if my clients are running off the CD image (poor man's) and my server is from knoppix-installer (debian version). Can I also use clients from knoppix-installer (knoppix version)?

TIA,