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RoboHobby
01-17-2007, 08:21 PM
Hi,

I like KNOPPIX very much. I need it for my robotics hobby application.

I've just downloaded new KNOPPIX (KNOPPIX_V5.1.1CD-2007-01-04-EN.iso) and I see that again Java (JRE) is not the newest on this CD.

I always had such a problem with old Java on KNOPPIX.
So many times I had this problem in the past - with KNOPPIX 3.x, 4.x, 5.0.

And now I see that in 2007 KNOPPIX Java is 1.5.

But modern version is 1.6.

I even start to write my own HOWTO page - how to update Java on KNOPPIX.
See:
http://www.RoboHobby.com/how_to_update_java_on_knoppix.jsp
:-(
(I am afraid that this problem will be forever - old Java on new KNOPPIX)


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hal8000
01-23-2007, 11:16 AM
Well I just ran
java -version

on both my knoppix 5.1.1 install and my windows xp home partition

they both report:-
java -version
java version "1.5.0_10"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_10-b03)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_10-b03, mixed mode, sharing)

The same version. From what I remember a fresh install of XP starts with java 1.4
The big question is what applications require java 1.6 ? Most of the java enabled web pages work happily with java 1.5.

RoboHobby
01-23-2007, 05:22 PM
Hi,

There are a lot of additions in Java 1.6.
For example, I like applets with 3D graphics - molecules, etc.

Also I need embedded scripting - you can run JavaScript and some more of it's sub-versions directly in JVM.

See list of changes on the SUN - what they added in the 1.6.

For me it is important to run 3D right in the applet - to view the space, where the robot is going, I mean to view what is the 'mind' of the robot, what he think is around it.

As I remember (Am I right?) in previous versions of Java there were no 3D (only 2D).
And if you want to use 3D, you should use additional Java 3D API.

With Java 1.6 it is possible to do right in the applet.
By the way - this kind of 3D works even on the old PC, where you don't have modern video card.


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http://www.RoboHobby.com - Java brain for small J2ME robot with camera.
Cell phone as a spy camera on your kite.

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RoboHobby
02-03-2007, 08:18 PM
Hi,

I installed JRE 1.6 on my KNOPPIX live CD.
Now it is possible to download it from ibiblio server.

See:
http://www.RoboHobby.com/robohobby_linux_live_cd.jsp

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