Knoppix 5.1 does not find network adapter

[JIMR122783J]

I have tried several ways to go online with Knoppix 5.1 and my CnetPRO200WL PCI fast ethernet adapter.
The same computer has no problems going on line with DreamLinux or win xp pro.

Iv tried every thing i could find on various sites.

:(

[Harry Kuhman]

Give us a few clues. What are you connecting to? Do you have a router? What is the output of ifconfig? What type of internet service do you have?

And it would be best to post networking questions in the networking forum. This one has been moved.

[JIMR122783J]

Give us a few clues. What are you connecting to? Do you have a router? What is the output of ifconfig? What type of internet service do you have?

And it would be best to post networking questions in the networking forum. This one has been moved.

I am trying to connect to Starband via a novus (Starband) satellite modem, which connects to my computer via the afore mentioned network adapter.

ipconfig output:

IP address 148.78.40.50
Gateway 148.78.40.49
Dhcp Server 148.78.40.49

This info was obtained via cmd / ipconfig whil online with windows

thank you

[Harry Kuhman]

This info was obtained via cmd / ipconfig whil online with windows

OK. First, I would strongly suggest adding a router for protection, particularly when running WinXP. But as far as the reported problem, I can't diagnose a Knoppix problem based on what windows does. So I'll ask again, what is the output of ifconfig (which is a Linux command, not a Windows command) after you boot Knoppix?

I have no experience with your satellite modem. Do you have to go through any sort of login procedure when you start a system? If so what did you do with your last Linux system?

Another small test to do that may help us understand what is going on:
Boot Knoppix again.

Bring up a command shell.

Type ping 89.145.97.110
Did the ping get a response?

Type ping knoppix.net
Did the ping get a response?

[JIMR122783J]

I did as you suggested.

ifconfig output:
IP Address: 148.78.40.50
Gateway: 148.78.40.51
Server: 148.78.40.51
Physical Address: 00:08:A1:1E:9A:0D

148.78.249.200
148.78.249.201
The ipaddress and physical address are familiar. I believe the first is the network
card and the second is the computer.89145

ping 89.145.97.110 put me into a seemingly endless loop ( from 148.78.40.50 etc

with no response.

ping knoppix.net reported sight unavailable.








This info was obtained via cmd / ipconfig whil online with windows

OK. First, I would strongly suggest adding a router for protection, particularly when running WinXP. But as far as the reported problem, I can't diagnose a Knoppix problem based on what windows does. So I'll ask again, what is the output of ifconfig (which is a Linux command, not a Windows command) after you boot Knoppix?

I have no experience with your satellite modem. Do you have to go through any sort of login procedure when you start a system? If so what did you do with your last Linux system?

Another small test to do that may help us understand what is going on:
Boot Knoppix again.

Bring up a command shell.

Type ping 89.145.97.110
Did the ping get a response?

Type ping knoppix.net
Did the ping get a response?

[Harry Kuhman]

...ifconfig output:
IP Address: 148.78.40.50
Gateway: 148.78.40.51
Server: 148.78.40.51
Physical Address: 00:08:A1:1E:9A:0D

148.78.249.200
148.78.249.201
The ipaddress and physical address are familiar. I believe the first is the network
card and the second is the computer.89145

ping 89.145.97.110 put me into a seemingly endless loop ( from 148.78.40.50 etc

with no response.

ping knoppix.net reported sight unavailable.
The fact that you are getting assigned an IP address indicates that your Cnet card is not the problem, it's working fine. You seem to have the same IP address as with windows, but very curiously a different gateway address. Not knowing anything about how your satellite ISP works I don't know if that is a problem or not. I doesn't look particularly awful though, but is certainly not what I expected.

The physical address is the MAC address of the Cnet card. All ethernet interface cards have a unique address. No problem there.

I'm not clear on what the 148.78.249.200 and 148.78.249.201 IP addresses are. Were there no labels on them?

Pinging the IP address should have caused responses back from this website (assuming that your ISP isn't blocking pings. Considering how long it takes to ping through a satellite in geosync orbit, they just might, rather than look pretty bad, so I'm not sure if this part of the test tells us much. I had expected the ping to work though. Yea, in Linux a ping will loop until you stop it. Since you had used Linux before (DreamLinux), I didn't think I needed to mention this.

Pinging the URL address and not getting the same result as the IP type ping indicates that the domain name lookup (DNS) didn't occur properly and find the IP of the URL. In this case that's knoppix.net and should have returned the same IP address as you previously pinged. Why DNS lookup is failing I can't say, it might or might not be related to that difference in gateway addresses. Normally DHCP will configure you with one or more valid DNS servers, or use the gateway as a DNS server. This looks like a potential source of the problem, but without a better understanding of your satellite system I'm not sure what I going wrong. I am sure that your CnetPRO200WL PCI fast ethernet adapter is not the cause of the problem and it is being supported properly in Knoppix.

At this point I'm hoping that someone who knows the Starband system will join the conversation.

[JIMR122783J]

This has been helpful and I appreciate your help. I will post more as I learn more.

It just occured to me to boot DreamLinux and run ifconfig etc.






...ifconfig output:
IP Address: 148.78.40.50
Gateway: 148.78.40.51
Physical Server: 148.78.40.51
Address: 00:08:A1:1E:9A:0D

148.78.249.200
148.78.249.201
The ipaddress and physical address are familiar. I believe the first is the network
card and the second is the computer.89145

ping 89.145.97.110 put me into a seemingly endless loop ( from 148.78.40.50 etc

with no response.

ping knoppix.net reported sight unavailable.
The fact that you are getting assigned an IP address indicates that your Cnet card is not the problem, it's working fine. You seem to have the same IP address as with windows, but very curiously a different gateway address. Not knowing anything about how your satellite ISP works I don't know if that is a problem or not. I doesn't look particularly awful though, but is certainly not what I expected.

The physical address is the MAC address of the Cnet card. All ethernet interface cards have a unique address. No problem there.

I'm not clear on what the 148.78.249.200 and 148.78.249.201 IP addresses are. Were there no labels on them?

Pinging the IP address should have caused responses back from this website (assuming that your ISP isn't blocking pings. Considering how long it takes to ping through a satellite in geosync orbit, they just might, rather than look pretty bad, so I'm not sure if this part of the test tells us much. I had expected the ping to work though. Yea, in Linux a ping will loop until you stop it. Since you had used Linux before (DreamLinux), I didn't think I needed to mention this.

Pinging the URL address and not getting the same result as the IP type ping indicates that the domain name lookup (DNS) didn't occur properly and find the IP of the URL. In this case that's knoppix.net and should have returned the same IP address as you previously pinged. Why DNS lookup is failing I can't say, it might or might not be related to that difference in gateway addresses. Normally DHCP will configure you with one or more valid DNS servers, or use the gateway as a DNS server. This looks like a potential source of the problem, but without a better understanding of your satellite system I'm not sure what I going wrong. I am sure that your CnetPRO200WL PCI fast ethernet adapter is not the cause of the problem and it is being supported properly in Knoppix.

At this point I'm hoping that someone who knows the Starband system will join the conversation. :wink:

[hal8000]

I don't know the Starband system, but believe your problem is that the gateway address is wrong.
In windows you had 148.78.40.49, in knoppix your last octet is 51.

The gateway address should be constant, your IP address on the LAN can change (if you are using DHCP).

As su type

route -n

this should list the routiing table and give the IP address of your gateway.
Next try pinging the gateway

ping -c3 <gateway address>

Example:
[root@zen anc]# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
192.168.254.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 10 0 0 eth0
169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 10 0 0 eth0
127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
0.0.0.0 192.168.254.254 0.0.0.0 UG 10 0 0 eth0

The last address is my router address (gateway) so pinging the gw should give a response:
[root@zen anc]# ping -c3 192.168.254.254
PING 192.168.254.254 (192.168.254.254) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.254.254: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.638 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.254.254: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=0.638 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.254.254: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=0.634 ms

--- 192.168.254.254 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 1998ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.634/0.636/0.638/0.029 ms


I am assuming that your starband is a self contained modem router for this to work.
Hope that helps