LXDE 'upgrades' in Knoppix 6.2.1 Using Synaptic

[utu]

Has any brave soul upgraded any LXDE component
via Knoppix 6.2.1 Synaptic
from 'only Debian Stable' (two repos}
to 'Debian Stable plus Debian Testing' (four repos)?

I upgraded PCManFM alone from Stable to Testing,
and it has a lot of strange behavior.

This might be the result of a version mismatch between
PXManFM and LXDE, even though Synaptic allegedly
took care of all 'dependency' problems.

I'd be interested in any comments, good or bad,
about your upgrading experience with any LXDE
component. Thanks

[utu]

To be a bit more specific, I note Synaptic has three LXDE
elements marked with a yellow star, indicating they are
available for 'upgrade' from my installed versions. These are
lxinput, lxsession, and lxterminal.

Comments on upgrading any or all of these are especially wanted.

[mecho]

I have all LXDE packages upgraded. I have all packages in my system upgraded to unstable :) and my system runs very smooth with no crashes. The only packages on hold in my system are all xserver-xorg packages for compatibility issues with my laptop, openoffice and packages related to it and compiz because I do not use it.
You can use Synaptic to download changelog and see if the package in question had any urgent update. The last lxsession update is flagged urgency=high

[utu]

@mechjo

Where do you find any mention of urgency in Synaptic?

[mecho]

You select a package first, then click package menu and select Download Changelog. You will see the urgency inside the changelog

[utu]

If urgency=high, what does this mean?

[klaus2008]

You can find a description of the fields in the Debian changes files in Chapter 5 - Control files and their fields of the Debian Policy Manual http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html.
This is a description of how important it is to upgrade to this version from previous ones. http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Urgency Further explanation is given in footnote 39 http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/footnotes.html#f39
The urgency affects how quickly a package will be considered for inclusion into the testing distribution and gives an indication of the importance of any fixes included in the upload.

[utu]

@klauss & mecho

Thanks once again for your patient tutoring of this rank amateur.
mecho's quoted experience and klaus' quoted reference help a lot.

I can't help noting that I find this 'urgent' thing pretty well
hidden from view. Seems like an appropriate icon in Synaptic
might make this urgency a lot more obvious.

I am encouraged on both fronts to upgrade LXDE at least for the
three elements noted in my post #2. I've saved my current .img,
just in case things don't go well. I'm hoping this may remedy
my PCManFM gripes.

[utu]

Well, I've survived the experiment.
No change apparent to me.

Opening up to all possible repos, I find no further upgrades
available for either lxde or pcmanfm.

However, my PCManFM 'Applications' menu item still locks up.
Any hints on what it's supposed to do?

Also, concerning Edit/Preferences/Volume Management, I assume
that if the first automount checkbox is unchecked, that PCManFM
will NOT attempt to mount my hard drive sectors.
Is that correct?

[mecho]

@klauss & mecho

Thanks once again for your patient tutoring of this rank amateur.
mecho's quoted experience

:) The first time I put my hands on Linux was December last year. All because I don't like lazy OS like Windows 7, XP was kind of OK, but I got bored with it and besides I do believe in open source software. I think all knowledge should be shared and anyone should be able to learn as much as he/she wants. Knoppix got my attention because of the good learning curve it has - it makes me dig inside as much as I can :)

[utu]

At last.

lxpanel was the missing ingredient to make 'Applications' work
in PCManFM, the upgrade.

I opened up my repo selections to include everything including
the kitchen sink. Found one 'lx...' entry waiting to be discovered
as available for 'upgrade'.

lxpanel, the upgrade, gives a marvelously interesting and complete
display of LXDE application categories. Applications/Desktop Settings
would be a lovely home for kl522's Desktop Preferences command,
mentioned in his post #7 on the thread 'Comments on upgrading PCManFM'.

I think PCMan tries to do too much with PCManFM. It is also a
desktop manager, masquerading as a mere file mangager.

[franciscoklf]

Hi: I have this problem, when ii tray to update the packets from internet i was have this message:
E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Please increase the size of APT::Cache-Limit. Current value: 25165824. (man 5 apt.conf)
E: Ocurrió un error mientras se procesaba icedove-gnome-support (NewVersion1)
E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
E: Las listas de paquetes o el archivo de estado no se pueden analizar sintácticamente o abrir.

I have knoppix 6.2 installed in the HD from a cd , and i install this in spanish.
Sorry if i put same batdly but english is no my espertice. I fron Argentina.
Thank you

[Werner P. Schulz]

... if you don't have '/etc/apt/apt.conf' make a copy of '/usr/share/doc/apt/examples/apt.conf'

At the end of '/etc/apt/apt.conf' write this line

APT::Cache-Limit "50000000";

[utu]

@franciscoklf

I have not run into this problem myself.

I am using Knoppix 6.2.1 installed from CD to a 2Gb USB card, with 1.1 Gb persistent.
My Synaptic uses default parameters except for repositories; I use only two, the 'stable'
ones, except for a few programs like LXDE, its lx-helpers, and flash.
I don't find _any_ apt.conf, as such, on my 6.2.1 setup.

FWIW, I don't attempt any massive upgrades with _all_ repos active.
I do comprehensive upgrades using the two stable repos with no problems.

In your Knoppix 6.2 case, the suggestion to increase the cache limit seems like a good
first step. If that doesn't work out, you might try Knoppix 6.2.1.
Beyond that, we probably ought to know more specifics about your pc.

[Werner P. Schulz]

... this problem with "APT::Cache-Limit" also happens in Knoppix 6.2.1

Greetings Werner ° http://www.wp-schulz.de/rettung.html (http://www.knoppixforum.de/index.php?page=ExternalLink&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wp-schulz.de%2Frettung.html)
"Persoenliche Knoppix-Rettungs-CD erstellen (Knoppix remaster)"

[johnmd]

Thanks Werner Your fix in post #13 works a treat with Knoppix 6.3 dvd hard drive install too. So simple when someone shows you how! I'd never have found it in a month of Sundays on my own. Best wishes, John