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utu
12-30-2010, 10:59 PM
Here are some growing pains I've noticed in
my recent 2Gb SDCard version of Knoppix 6.4.3 Live USB

Also a problem in 6.2.1
Audio values set by alsamixer aren't saved;
easily remedied via /etc/rc.local.

Unique to 6.4.3
Firewall tool applet choices don't recognize persistent store location;
nothing gets saved.

Cube face wallpaper choices get written over on re-boot;
~/.config/compiz/compizconfig may be at fault

Everything mountable gets mounted; potentially hazardous access to ntfs partitions.
cpm says ~/.config/pcmanfm/LXDE/pcmanfm.conf may be at fault.

Gnome log file viewer no longer available;
probably relied on gnome utils which have been removed since 6.2.1.

utu
01-07-2011, 12:29 AM
Relative to these 'Growing Pains' I offer the following workarounds:

Alsamixer values can easily be set and saved by adding a few lines
to your /etc/rc.local file. Search here for 'utu sset', see my
post #4 to krishna.murphy.

The wall paper choices and the everything-gets-mounted problems are
easily cured with a simple edit. Search for 'utu desktop', see my
post #5 to thread started by cpm.

The log file viewer can easily be replaced by using mc, Midnight Commander.
This is already installed in 6.4.3.

If you miss 'locate' as I did, put it back via Synaptic. A 300Kb bargain.

I have no solution yet for the firewall difficulty. I didn't even know
we needed one. Might be a simple xdg init problem, like the one
involving PCManFM desktop preferences.

petermartinez
02-05-2011, 01:19 PM
I downloaded 6.4.3 to replace a very old Knoppix I used for many years, and was dissapointed to find that 'lang=uk' no longer works (the keyboard is dead if I try it). This is a nuisance for me here in England.

This may not be something new to 6.4.3. but could I ask here if there is a way to make lang=uk work for me.

Thanks
Peter

utu
02-05-2011, 06:23 PM
I've never done this, but you might look at the following approach:

http://sluglug.ucsc.edu/pipermail/sluglug/2001-March/016706.html

Let us know if this is a viable approach or if you find another that is.

petermartinez
02-05-2011, 08:40 PM
Thanks for the idea but I was hoping that there was some LINUX command that would do the same as the Knoppix 'lang=uk' cheatcode which worked before - I suppose that somewhere inside the box there is already the UK keyboard layout in a file and I just need to know how to switch to it each time I need to use Knoppix from the Live CD (which, for the moment, is only when I need to do some emergency repairs to Windows).

Why does 'lang=uk' not work now? Does it save some space on the CD? Are there only one or two Knoppix users in England so it's not worth it? The -EN version of Knoppix doesn't use the English keyboard but the American keyboard! Where would I go (which forum) to ask if 'lang=uk' could be put back into the next version?

regards
Peter

utu
02-05-2011, 10:33 PM
This article presents a plausible story:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_American_keyboards

Also, there is a language abbreviation standard where
en is 'international english' and and uk is 'Ukrainian'.

petermartinez
02-05-2011, 11:22 PM
Yes, but the earlier Knoppix gave me a perfectly correct British keyboard when I entered 'knoppix lang=uk' at the boot: prompt, and it no longer does it (lang=uk makes the keyboard dead, not ukrainian). This is why I am hoping that the British keyboard file is still in there somewhere and there is a way to select it after booting.

Peter

utu
02-05-2011, 11:56 PM
oops, gd for Gaelic, my bad.

The iso 639-1 list is here:

http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/English_list.php

Just fooling. You have a point.
Only Klaus knows the real answer.
I suspect the Windows argument is at the heart of it,
that there are many dialects of english.
Or was that Mr Shaw?

utu
02-06-2011, 03:57 PM
Post #6 here seems to be of some help to you.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=253417

petermartinez
02-06-2011, 07:37 PM
All I want to know is how to get back to the keyboard layout that worked fine for me in the past with 'lang=uk' at the boot: prompt. Can you suggest another Knoppix forum where I might ask the question again. I am half hoping that Klaus might have not intended to remove the British keyboard (maybe he thought he was removing a ukrainian keyboard which would have used the Cyrillic alphabet which maybe cannot be displayed anyway!).

Peter

klaus2008
02-06-2011, 09:50 PM
Did you try the cheatcode 'xkeyboard=gb' instead of 'lang=uk'? This should give you an english keyboard layout in the X11 environment.

utu
02-06-2011, 10:34 PM
greetings Klaus.

Google turns up en_GB in places.
Some UK-ers putting gb in xorg.conf.
Don't know if Knoppix handles either.

utu
02-06-2011, 11:12 PM
In my install of Knoppix 6.4.4
locate en_GB shows a lot of locale files for en_GB.

My guess is that given a locale other than USA,
that xorg.conf needs to have a few appropriate
option declarations to change the keyboard map
appropriately.

I get the feeling that Debian has completed locale
work for en_GB. I don't get the feeling that currently
knoppix lang=gb or lang=en_GB causes this to happen.

It would be nice to see an old xorg.conf for the
days when knoppix lang=uk used to do whatever needs
to be done.

For the mean-time, I think a tweak of xorg.conf may
likely be the only answer.

utu
02-08-2011, 11:12 PM
@peter

I note that I get a dead uk keyboard for both Knoppix 6.4.3 and 6.4.4.
However, for 6.2.1 the uk keyboard is not dead.

There is not a lot of difference between the 6.2's and th 6.4's and
you might try the 6.2 for the time being.

I note that /etc/init.d/knoppix-autoconfig still has an entry for uk.
So, I imagine there should be more to expect than a dead keyboard.