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ICPUG
03-16-2016, 04:41 PM
Knoppix 7.7, Linux Magazine Edition, released in conjunction with the CeBIT 2016 Exhibition, can be found on the April Edition (No. 185) of the UK version of Linux Magazine.

Before anyone starts jumping up and down demanding the public edition should be available for download it is as well to remember that past experience is that the .1 public edition does not usually appear till later, (maybe as late as September). The benefit of the wait is you get some bugs fixed. Klaus Knopper releases when he is ready.

This year's CeBIT release is somewhat larger than usual, stretching to TWO extra KNOPPIX files. This is because it includes several CAD programs. These do NOT appear on public releases of Knoppix.

utu
03-17-2016, 12:17 AM
Greetings ICPUG.
It's clear that there seems sure enough to be a Knoppix 7.7 out there, but I can't tell if you actually have the DVD image yourself.
If you do, please tell us the details on getting this image; that is, how? By mail, by download, or what?
The Linux Magazine offer looks to me like just a pdf (text) relating to 7.7, no mention of the iso image.
I hope you can clear this up for us.
Thanks.

utu
03-17-2016, 01:18 AM
It's clear that there seems sure enough to be a Knoppix 7.7 out there
On closer inspection what I'm seeing looks more like partly-edited 2015 CeBIT Knoppix 7.6 material
possibly being edited in anticipation of a March 2016 CeBIT offering.
Why it's on-line in its current state now is not clear .

BFQ kernel mod certainly looks interesting.
Ads don't mention libc6 problem correction.
Perhaps, except for minor version upgrades, we may expect these to be the really new things in 7.7.

ICPUG
03-18-2016, 01:37 AM
Hi Utu,

As is always the case with the Linux Magazine /CeBIT edition of Knoppix what is released is the Live DVD that would be formed if you burnt the iso to DVD. The iso itself is not made available as far as I am aware. You buy the magazine - you get the DVD - you boot up with it and go.

If your German is up to scratch more details are here:
http://knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix770.html

My German is non-existant but I can see from that page that 7.7 uses a later version of the linux kernel than 7.6. Then there is the additional software I mentioned in this 'exclusive' CeBIT edition.

utu
03-18-2016, 03:56 AM
Thanks for the info, I think I've got this figured out finally.



As is always the case with the Linux Magazine /CeBIT edition of Knoppix what is released is the Live DVD that would be formed if you burnt the iso to DVD. The iso itself is not made available as far as I am aware. You buy the magazine - you get the DVD - you boot up with it and go.

It's important to note that Linux Magazine is a European pub. The same issue in Linux Pro Magazine has a different , non-Knoppix DVD offering.



If your German is up to scratch more details are here:
http://knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix770.html
(http://knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix770.html)
Here the German page describes 7.7, but the English page describes 7.6.
This may be because there seems to be no English Knoppix CeBIT sessions scheduled.
(http://knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix770.html)


My German is non-existant but I can see from that page that 7.7 uses a later version of the linux kernel than 7.6. Then there is the additional software I mentioned in this 'exclusive' CeBIT edition.
The 7.7 3d stuff is probably the same as in 7.6.
I expect the really new stuff in 7.7 other than current version upgrades of everything, are the following:
BFQ kernel patch, a new backup program, and behind the scenes, an upgraded libc6 to get around its
long-standing vulnerability.
If I'm right, only the BFQ stuff interests me; but, I really wonder if BFQ has anything to offer in a single-user situation.

utu
03-18-2016, 03:02 PM
Here is a little update on the CeBIT Knoppix offering:
http://www.linux-magazin.de/Ausgaben/2016/04/Knoppix-7.7#

Google translate does handle this page if you highlight its text a paragraph at a time
and click the big 'T' icon to do the translation. It mentions the libc situation in two places.

utu
03-20-2016, 09:52 PM
.
Here's a utube demo of a BFQ scheduler in action:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeNbS0rzpoY)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeNbS0rzpoY


(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeNbS0rzpoY)

otropogo
03-28-2016, 06:00 PM
Hi Utu,

As is always the case with the Linux Magazine /CeBIT edition of Knoppix what is released is the Live DVD that would be formed if you burnt the iso to DVD. The iso itself is not made available as far as I am aware. You buy the magazine - you get the DVD - you boot up with it and go.

If your German is up to scratch more details are here:
http://knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix770.html

My German is non-existant but I can see from that page that 7.7 uses a later version of the linux kernel than 7.6. Then there is the additional software I mentioned in this 'exclusive' CeBIT edition.

Google Translate does a fairly decent English translation. The big promise for me is better UEFI handling, support for fast high-capacity flash cards would be nice too, after all these years.... Too bad it costs 8.5 Euros plus shipping to get the DVD with the April issue. Shipping to Switzerland is 4.5 Euros. You need to e-mail computec@dpv.de to find out how much shipping will cost outside Europe.

utu
03-28-2016, 10:16 PM
how much shipping will cost outside Europe.
It looks like the April Linux Pro (print, not digital) Magazine _may_ have a Knoppix 7.7 DVD in it.
Our newsstand for March Linux Pro did not have the CeBIT DVD that the European March edition had.

otropogo
04-01-2016, 03:49 AM
It looks like the April Linux Pro (print, not digital) Magazine _may_ have a Knoppix 7.7 DVD in it.
Our newsstand for March Linux Pro did not have the CeBIT DVD that the European March edition had.

I e-mailed Computec in English, using both the online mail form and the e-mail address, asking for shipping costs to Montreal, and expected delivery time.

I got the automated form letter in German copied below promising a response as soon as possible to my query while asserting that all the answers are on the website , and that , should I need a more detailed information ??? I should write to the e-mail address listed on the website (which I had already done) citing the transaction number given in the subject line. My original text wasn't quoted.

Very efficient...

That was the morning of March 28th. I'm not holding my breath...


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utu
04-02-2016, 10:55 PM
Bought April 2016 LinuxPro Magazine with Knoppix 7.7 LiveDVD.
Available at Barnes & Noble here on April 2, 2016.
Newsstand price is $12.99US plus local tax.

Magazine notes some listed 7.7 features are 'for DVD-only version only'.
--maybe there's still some hope for a CD-version.

Called-up Synaptic & did reload; noted alioth 'unsigned' warning;
libc6 2.21-7 24Jan16 installed; 2.22-5 29Mar16 now available.

Uname -a says 64-bit kernel is 4.4.0.

dmesg | grep fail lists four instances; two sytemd-udevd alsactl-related,
two systemd-logid service-start-related.
No dmesg instances related to keywords warn, error or corrupt.

knoppix.version lists 2016-02-05 release date for 7.7.0.
df -kTh shows KNOPPIX 7.7 made up of 3 cloops.
Takes 34 seconds to boot to browser-on-line, 15 seconds to shut-down.

My changes so far amount to a 60Mb cloop when compacted.

Yet to do
Haven't found evidence for bfq yet.
Having trouble making firefox autostart.
Otherwise uneventful new LiveUSB install on 8Gb cruzer wih 2 Gb reiser persistence.

otropogo
04-04-2016, 02:43 PM
received a reply from Computec today giving the shipping cost to Montreal for the April issue of Linux-Magazin with the Knoppix 7.7 DVD as 5.00 Euros.

otropogo
04-04-2016, 02:47 PM
Bought April 2016 LinuxPro Magazine with Knoppix 7.7 LiveDVD.
Available at Barnes & Noble here on April 2, 2016.
Newsstand price is $12.99US plus local tax....



Thanks for this news. Does anyone know where one can buy this issue:

a) at a retail outlet in Montreal (ie. newstand, bookstore) or,

b) online for shipment to Canada?

philo
04-06-2016, 10:17 AM
Is it so boring just to wait for the next latest and greatest official release?

utu
04-06-2016, 04:45 PM
Is it so boring just to wait for the next latest and greatest official release?
7.7 brings a lot of things up-to-date and adds a few new things, but for the most part looks to me like 7.6.1.
It makes libc6 a little better, but it is still behind on the very latest patches for libc6.
systemd noises noted on 7.6.1 dmesgs are still evident in 7.7.
7.7 advertises Firefox 45, but my 7.7 iso installed Iceweasel 44.
With a Synaptic reload, one can bring these last two situations more up-to-date.
I'm not aware that BFQ affects anything noticeable in my Knoppix desktop experience,
and I don't have any current need for the new 3d & backup stuff that 7.6 and 7.7 offer.

A singular feature of 7.7 (relative to 7.6.1, for example) is using a cloop solely to bring in Flash for Iceweasel or Firefox.
I expect this is reasonable if Linux/LinuxPro magazines have authority to distribute, where Klaus K does not.
This feature may have been in prior CeBIT Knoppix versions; I never looked at one before.

ruymbeke
07-29-2016, 08:04 AM
Hello,
FYI, I finally got Knoppix 7.7.0 as a VMware 12.1.1 virtual machine guest with 3D & optional persistence with cut & paste and drag & drop working.
http://knoppix.net/forum/threads/11589-ISO-boot-from-FAT-NTFS-USB-%28GRUB-exe-grldr-from-boot-ini%29?p=133709&viewfull=1#post133709
VMware had a nasty bug which was quite difficult to work around. This vm will also work with previous and other versions of VMware Software.
As usual you will also find an improved minirt (with added kernel modules and improved init script) for nfs, samba and iso boots (32 & 64).
Best Regards,
Gilles

buymystock
08-03-2016, 07:53 AM
Greetings ICPUG.
It's clear that there seems sure enough to be a Knoppix 7.7 out there, but I can't tell if you actually have the DVD image yourself.
If you do, please tell us the details on getting this image; that is, how? By mail, by download, or what?
The Linux Magazine offer looks to me like just a pdf (text) relating to 7.7, no mention of the iso image.
I hope you can clear this up for us.
Thanks.
The DVD Knoppix 7.7.0 comes with the printed copy of Linux Pro Magazine April 2016,
I got mine within 2 days after purchasing the printed copy #185 April 2016 edition. They have an office in the United States of America, I think it's in Kansas USA. Very fast delivery. The DVD will be attached to the magazine's printed pages. $12.99 US Dollars.
If you want the Knoppix 7.7 DVD, order the PRINTED copy because the DIGITAL copy does NOT provide the Knoppix 7.7 OS, only the PRINTED copy does! I Google searched for Linux Magazine April 2016 and finally navigated to the ordering page. I had to do some searching after I got on the Linux Magazine page but you will find it in there.

buymystock
08-03-2016, 08:23 AM
http://shop.linuxnewmedia.com/ca/magazines/linux-magazine-linux-pro-magazine/back-issues/eh30185.html

MrNovi
10-13-2016, 05:25 PM
Before anyone starts jumping up and down demanding the public edition should be available for download it is as well to remember that past experience is that the .1 public edition does not usually appear till later, (maybe as late as September). The benefit of the wait is you get some bugs fixed. Klaus Knopper releases when he is ready.



Well it's October now and no release. Is there any update on when it will be available? I think that we've been patient for several months and requesting an update is not unreasonable.

utu
10-13-2016, 06:38 PM
Well it's October now and no release. Is there any update on when it will be available? I think that we've been patient for several months and requesting an update is not unreasonable.
As of Oct 10:
Knoppix 7.7.1 is almost ready (still testing)

MrNovi
10-14-2016, 09:48 PM
Thanks for that. If he needs any testers contact me. I have lot's of free time (retired) and a lot of different computers of varying hardware specs going back to Pentium 2's to test on.

utu
10-26-2016, 04:32 AM
...assuming 7.7.1 Linux Presentation Day Edition is a beta version:

Firefox 49
LibreOffice 5.2.2.2
Linux 4.7.9-64 SMP kernel
Broadcom wl Version '271 64-bit wifi driver
'Dirty COW' bug fix

Werner P. Schulz
10-27-2016, 06:08 AM
KNOPPIX_V7.7.1DVD-2016-10-22-DE.iso and
KNOPPIX_V7.7.1DVD-2016-10-22-EN.iso is available via Torrents and Mirrors. (http://knoppix.net/wiki/Downloading_FAQ#How_do_I_get_the_current_DVD.3F)

MrNovi
10-27-2016, 04:44 PM
Oh baby. Getting it now.

philo
10-28-2016, 11:50 AM
...assuming 7.7.1 Linux Presentation Day Edition is a beta version

It is only a beta? Then I shall wait for the final version.

MrNovi
10-28-2016, 03:13 PM
It is only a beta? Then I shall wait for the final version.


philo, I don't remember him having released any Beta's openly in the last several years so I imagine this is a final version, or as final as it's going to get. He is always refining his releases.

utu
10-28-2016, 05:18 PM
Werner has posted the official 7.4.1 mirror list.

7.4.1 Linux Presentation Day Version was an immediately prior version for german-language Linux user groups,
probably not intended for general consumption.

utu
10-28-2016, 09:34 PM
7.4.1 is a typo above; should be 7.7.1, obviously.

See an outline of Knoppix 7.7.1 Contents at:
http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix771-en.html

klaus2008
10-29-2016, 09:14 AM
Hi!

I was not able to install VirtualBox 5.1.6 guest additions because there is a misconfiguration in the kernel header files. "make oldconfig && make prepare" did not help.
The only solution seems to be the recompilation of the whole kernel with the old configuration file.

If anyone knows a faster solution I would be glad to hear of it.

philo
10-30-2016, 12:04 PM
VirtualBox discussions belong to General Support, not to News.

klaus2008
10-30-2016, 07:56 PM
Hi @all!
Where do useless kernel header files belong to?

buymystock
11-21-2016, 03:56 PM
I've used 7.7.0 with zero problems and it works GREAT! Got it about 4 months ago with the magazine (printed edition) and it's worth every dollar you pay, 12 or 13 United States Dollars. I live in USA and delivery took only two days. Highly recommend 7.7.0.

Knoppix 7.7, Linux Magazine Edition, released in conjunction with the CeBIT 2016 Exhibition, can be found on the April Edition (No. 185) of the UK version of Linux Magazine.

Before anyone starts jumping up and down demanding the public edition should be available for download it is as well to remember that past experience is that the .1 public edition does not usually appear till later, (maybe as late as September). The benefit of the wait is you get some bugs fixed. Klaus Knopper releases when he is ready.

This year's CeBIT release is somewhat larger than usual, stretching to TWO extra KNOPPIX files. This is because it includes several CAD programs. These do NOT appear on public releases of Knoppix.

philo
11-21-2016, 08:43 PM
Highly recommend 7.7.0.

Up to you if you prefer to eat stale bread.

MrNovi
11-21-2016, 09:00 PM
I've used 7.7.0 with zero problems and it works GREAT! Got it about 4 months ago with the magazine (printed edition) and it's worth every dollar you pay, 12 or 13 United States Dollars. I live in USA and delivery took only two days. Highly recommend 7.7.0.

Why would you recommend an older version that doesn't have all of the security updates of the latest version? That doesn't make much sense.

buymystock
11-22-2016, 08:13 PM
Are you using Knoppix 7.7.1? I can't get my copy to perform properly; I have the correct md5sum that I downloaded previous to getting the 7.7.1 .iso file from knopper.net's mirror (http://www dot uni-kl.de/startseite/ and I also tried a few other mirrors too. The md5sum matches my downloaded 7.7.1 .iso file but for some reason, 7.7.1 just doesn't like my computer. Notwithstanding, 7.7.0 loves my computer as an alternative.

philo
11-24-2016, 12:00 PM
Run flash-knoppix. It loves my computer.