Knoppix 8.6 new public version is finally out !

[ruymbeke]

Hello,
Finally the new public version of Knoppix 8.6 is out !
(http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix850-en.html)http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix860.html
Thank you Klaus !,
Have fun,
Gilles

[joselb]

Thanks a lot for posting!

[joselb]

Well... I don't know if you have the same problem than me, but it freezes with the message "Expanding... /dev/sdb3 partition" or something like that. And if I put the cheatcode "knoppix noimage" then it also freezes but without messages. And I tried making it from Linux with gnome-disks and then like they say in the message with "dd if=..." with the same result, It seems that this partition gives some problem to me.
Do you know what can I do to solve it?
Thanks

[joselb]

Sorry, I forgot to boot with knoppix64, now it works well. I am used to use it in my job that it's a 32 bits computer. I'll try in my job tomorrow.

[joselb]

No way... In my job is impossible to use this Knoppix version. I continue using 8.1 :( The only way to boot in this 32 bits machine is writing knoppix64 too!! And then some things don't work. Many bugs...

[jacksonon]

Seems very buggy and unstable on first look and testing. 32-bit doesn't load in some configurations or at all depending how it was put to USB ie Rufus. Even with built-in installer basically frozen at 'Past mounting /KNOPPIX', no init, No advancement after Control+D in debug mode . Other laptop is suck on expanding Knoppix stage with error about <400mb over-lay for partitions that don't exist ... 64-bit loads to desktop Ok but no sound and resuming from suspend = crash/reboot on my one of my laptops. So far seems a step back from 8.1 in the hardware support. If I find the switch or solutions it will be a while as I am busy with other problems ... But still nice to see this project going as it has always been a staple in the toolbox and it cut my teeth with coming to knowing a bit more about Linux. Thanks

[joselb]

Yes, I'm very dissapointed. All this time waiting and we receive a version with many bugs and not working as it should. It would have been easier to only update the programs from Knoppix 8.1, the kernel and nothing more. I hope that the next version will come soon and with the problems solved, but who knows... I also miss a CD version. Sometimes we only need a browser and some basic things, nothing more.

[jacksonon]

Hi, yeah so, sound was my problem, I was just testing on a few different laptops here, 3 actually and I didn't realize one had the a jack plugged into an amp that was turned off. Still after a days worth of testing I haven't gotten the 32-bit to boot on anything at all and I was still unable to get the resume from suspend working on the laptop that I really need suspend working on, tried all manor of quirks switches and apps and boot parameters. I've seen this a few times previously and I think it is a kernel problem and I'm sure it only effects the 64 version. Yeah the CD version was handy for small keys, putting the system to ram and still having space leftover to muck about. It's really nice when a stable build comes along. I ran the 7.2 CD version live in ram on my bedside laptop for 600 and umpteen days, 15 I think,; without a restart just by clearing the zram swap space every once-in-a-while and sure yeah I expect things not to work since it's live and I had to config some stuff like touch-pad, adding pulse-audio/manager and vlc but at that, it was solid! I relegate that laptop to the spare room with 8.1 only being used while I was exercising in there or had to test something on a spare computer and it seemed fairly stable too. I sure hope there will be an 8.6.1 release coming soon. I also couldn't see why the overlay wasn't an opt-in (option) by typing 'overlay' if you need to use it instead of being an opt-out by having to type 'noimage' when you don't currently need it. Maybe it makes sense if you create the overlay that your going to be using it, but yeah I would still think only if you want too, maybe that is me. I'll check back soon :smile:

[joselb]

I know we could remaster it, but I tried before and gave me errors too. But if someone could, please do something to convert the last DVD version to CD with the minimal programs and working with 32 bits. I'd thank him/her so much.

[Jeffery Mewtamer]

Okay, so I'm in the process of doing my usual micro remaster, tossing out KNOPPIX1 and KNOPPIX2 from /KNOPPIX since I don't need the software included in those images and changing /boot/isolinux/isolinux.cfg to boot in Adriane mode by default. Anyways, before I rebuild the ISO and burn it to a DVD, I was wondering, is there anyway to have both Adriane running by default and booting with the 64-bit kernel? Also, if I wanted to try slimming down my custom ISO further, what would be the recommended method of editing KNOPPIX/KNOPPIX to remove unwanted software?

[thriftee]

I got 8.6 running. Had to give it boot codes: acpi=off no3d mkimage

I got the tohd= boot code to load it to my SSD, but it still saves the mkimage persistence to the flashdrive and can't see how to change it to save persistence file to the SSD.

Any ideas on that?

[rajibando]

I got the tohd= boot code to load it to my SSD, but it still saves the mkimage persistence to the flashdrive and can't see how to change it to save persistence file to the SSD.

Doesn't the old way of using the ISO image from HDD partition work? Persistence could be achieved from the ISO image on the HDD partition too.

However, I would request to be pardoned if I overlooked something written by thriftee earlier.

BTW, has the 8.6 release solved the issue I'd raised on my query posted three months back?:
One more installation Option needs be added for new Knoppix

[ruymbeke]

Hello,
I have no issue running Knoppix 8.6.0 with the 64 bits kernel but it does hang after the message
"Please do not remove medium until shutdown!" when choosing at boot time the 32 bit kernel (knoppix cheatcode).
I have the same hanging issue with Knoppix 8.6 using 32 bit kernel when testing it within a virtual machine
of both VMware and VirtualBox. Does anyone else can confirm this problem and have experienced similar issues ?
Does anyone have a solution ? acpi=off and no3d does not help.
Thanks,
Gilles

https://www.gilles.name/other/knx86_kernel32_crash1.jpg

https://www.gilles.name/other/knx86_kernel32_crash2.jpg

[johnrw]

ruymbeke, you are still at it!!! Great! I can confirm this happens on the 32 bit version, exactly as you describe. Well... you have alot more info on it than I. It's funny, I just complained about it on the Hardware and Booting thread... then I decided to hunt you down, hoping you were still active. And here you are, on the announcement page no less, reporting a big bug. You are a bridge to my past! I was booting off the physical DVD, so I had no way to gather any info.

So, have you learned anything in a months time?
Did you fix your copy?

[johnrw]

Here is what I got when I used the debug cheatcode.

Can't access tty. Job control turned off.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_F_UoxeYDqxWG1IU3ByLUNZSHRVcE8xemtMVndGL XJpOHFr

and the filesystem is mounted

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_F_UoxeYDqxbGZnWVcxMXBQY2Uzb0huM19DQWYtV EpRdFRN

How do you post inline images?

[johnrw]

How do I add an image to a post?
These instructions are pure bogus!!!!!!
There is no manage attachments anywhere!!!!

http://knoppix.net/forum/faq.php?faq=vb3_reading_posting

It says...

How do I attach a file to a post?


To attach a file to your post, you need to be using the main 'New Post' or 'New Thread' page and not 'Quick Reply'. To use the main 'New Post' page, click the 'Post Reply' button in the relevant thread.


On this page, below the message box, you will find a button labelled 'Manage Attachments'. Clicking this button will open a new window for uploading attachments. You can upload an attachment either from your computer or from another URL by using the appropriate box on this page. Alternatively you can click the Attachment Icon to open this page.


To upload a file from your computer, click the 'Browse' button and locate the file. To upload a file from another URL, enter the full URL for the file in the second box on this page. Once you have completed one of the boxes, click 'Upload'.


Once the upload is completed the file name will appear below the input boxes in this window. You can then close the window to return to the new post screen.


What files types can I use? How large can attachments be?


In the attachment window you will find a list of the allowed file types and their maximum sizes. Files that are larger than these sizes will be rejected. There may also be an overall quota limit to the number of attachments you can post to the board.


If you have uploaded an image as an attachment, you can click the arrow next to the 'Attachment Icon' and select it from the list. This will be inserted into your post and can be located where you want it displayed.


To include an image that is not uploaded as an attachment and is located on another website, you can do so by copying the full URL to the image, (not the page on which the image is located), and either pressing the 'Insert Image' icon or by typing before the URL and after it, ensuring that you do not have any spaces before or after the URL of the image. You can insert photos from your albums (?) in this way too.

[ruymbeke]

Hi John,
Klaus Knopper acknowledged the problem of Knoppix 8.6.0 with the 32 bit kernel on the Debian forum and is working on it (Knoppix 8.6.1 to come).
It is kind of puzzling that the cloop module that is creating the problem is working just fine with 64 bit kernel and does break with the 32 bit kernel.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-knoppix/2019/09/msg00006.html
Best Regards,
Gilles

PS: I could not find a way to upload a pictures in this forum. Instead I stored them somewhere on a www server and used the web link to them.