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Seeker
01-26-2004, 10:17 PM
What's a good place to get some screensavers for this thingamasystem?

Cuddles
01-26-2004, 10:31 PM
Seeker,

Why not do the following:

apt-get update
apt-cache search screensaver

You want to do the "apt-get update" to refresh what you currently have on your databases, stored on your Knoppix... And the "apt-cache search xxxxxxxx" will search those" packages for the occurance of "xxxxxxxx", or in the case of the above command, anything that contains "screensaver"....

Scroll through the output you get from the search, and when you decide on the "package" you want.... do a "apt-get install [packagename]"

It's a WAY COOL system, when you get used to it :D
Cuddles
BTW - I assume you have this "thingamasystem" installed on your hard drive? Running from the CD has some limitations.

nmcphillips
01-27-2004, 03:26 AM
I tried your instructions Cuddles to install cmatrix. It showed package as being installed but it stated something about www.penquinppc.org. Matrix screensaver is not loaded. "Apt-get update" lists 404 (file not found) errors also associated with www.penquinppc.org. Any suggestions?

Cuddles
01-27-2004, 04:32 AM
I am not sure about the "www.penquinppc.org" - Mozilla reports it not found as well, as for the Matrix screensaver, not sure on that one either.

I have both KDE screensavers, and also XScreensavers, both of the "Matrix" screensavers I have run as "modules" for the XScreenSaver. Possibly, this is what screensaver you have, and it won't work unless XScreenSaver fires it off.

As for your messages: you will get a few of those 404 not found messages, and even some like, timed out... What you want to know is: did it download any data, did it rebuild database data, did it go through setting up "program", or it might say something like: "setting [program] previously not installed" or something like that. At the bottom of the "apt-get install" - did it just give you "W: something..." - which would be warnings, or did you get "E: something..." - which, I take it, is errors. You have to interogate the output of the apt-get to determine what it did, or didn't do.

Try something like kscreensavers, I think thats what it is called - you can also include a "shopping list" with the apt-get... like this...

apt-get -u install cmatrix kscreensavers someotherpackage anotherpackage [etc...]

You might want to use the "-u" option, it helps tell you if something you are asking to install, may suggust additional or recommended (associated) packages - sorry, I left this out on the previous post.

Keep "getting" some more packages, I don't know what happened with the CMatrix package, but practice, and trying another one, may give you success. (it works for me)

Cuddles

Stephen
01-27-2004, 04:56 AM
I tried your instructions Cuddles to install cmatrix. It showed package as being installed but it stated something about www.penquinppc.org. Matrix screensaver is not loaded. "Apt-get update" lists 404 (file not found) errors also associated with www.penquinppc.org. Any suggestions?

You need to change the /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the lines (put a # character in front of the line) that are causing the errors. What it should look like after you are done:



knoppix@knoppixtest:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
# See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy
# Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs
# CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool.

# Security updates for "stable"
deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib non-free

# Stable
deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/pub/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free

# Sources
deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/pub/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free

# Testing
deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/pub/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free

# Sources
deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/pub/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free

# Unstable
deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free

# Sources
deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free

# Experimental
deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian ../project/experimental main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian ../project/experimental main contrib non-free

# Mozilla
#deb http://non-us.debian.org/~kitame/mozilla ./
#deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/~kitame/mozilla ./

# GNOME 2.0
# deb http://www.gnome.de/debian/ ./

# KDE 3
# deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main
# deb-src http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main
# We get packages from testing/unstable for now

# cdbakeoven
# deb http://coyote.asoc.euitt.upm.es/mud/debian/ ./

# XFree 4.2/4.3
#deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/packages sid/i386/
#deb-src http://people.debian.org/~branden/packages sid/source/
# deb http://www.penguinppc.org/~daniels/sid/i386 ./
# deb-src http://www.penguinppc.org/~daniels/sid/source ./

# Java
deb ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian woody main non-free
deb-src ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian woody main non-free
deb ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian unstable main non-free
deb-src ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian unstable main non-free
# deb http://people.debian.org/~sgybas/jdk13

# LyX & others (now in debian/unstable)
# deb ftp://ntama.uni-mainz.de/pub/debian unofficial/
# deb-src ftp://ntama.uni-mainz.de/pub/debian unofficial/

# Evolution
#deb ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/debian stable main
#deb-src ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/debian stable main

# Blades Repository (pppoeconf & co)
#deb http://people.debian.org/~blade/testing ./
#deb-src http://people.debian.org/~blade/testing ./

# Wine CVS snapshot
# deb http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main
# deb-src http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r3 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary-1 (20010427)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main

nmcphillips
01-27-2004, 04:29 PM
I attempted to install kscreen saver and received the following message:

<pt-get install --yes 'kscreensaver' ;echo RESULT=$?
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
kscreensaver: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.1.5) but 4:3.1.4-3 is to be installed
Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.2.3) but 3:3.2.1-6 is to be installed
E: Broken packages
RESULT=100

I would really would like to get a handle on GNU/Linux, but it seems that everything I attempt has some sort of twist to it. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Stephen
01-27-2004, 09:06 PM
apt-get -s install -t unstable kscreensaver kdelibs4 libqt3c102-mt


And there will be a whole bunch more packages you will have to add the end of the line as it gives you the same warning about them. Apt is trying to upgrade your install to the latest KDE in unstable because that is the only version of the screensaver available you are best doing this from a console login from the KDE greeter screen it is not a good idea to upgrade KDE while it is running. Once you have the simulation of the install working without warning about the packages remove the -s in the line to actually install. To restart KDE from the console and get a new login screen use /etc/init.d/kdm restart.

Seeker
02-10-2004, 06:30 PM
Wow, heh, forgot I posted this.

Thanks man.

spacewing
04-23-2005, 10:01 AM
Cuddles

You are a God. I worship your toes. Are you married?

Very grateful, very blond -FORMER- Windows user

Cuddles
04-23-2005, 05:13 PM
The nice thing about "Linux" is, that the more you use it, the more you learn about it :)

I think the "cmatrix" screen saver is a "root window" type screensaver, i.e. when it runs, it dumps the "output" to a "root window", which, I think is the "boot window" that "us" Knoppix, and Kanotix, users see during the boot process. My "significant other" tried to install some "neato" screen saver once, and when she tried to run it, it appeared not to do anything, it also didnt show up as available screensaver in either KDE's screensavers, nor XScreensavers. But, this screensaver was able to "apt-get" it, and run it from a Konsole (command line).

Upon investigation of the screen saver she was installing, the description had stated it "displays on the root window", even though the description of "cmatrix" doesnt really say this, I think it is doing the same thing...


root@neo:/home/gblusr/Installs/Fonts# apt-cache show cmatrix
Package: cmatrix
Version: 1.2a-2
Priority: optional
Section: misc
Maintainer: Edward Betts <edward@debian.org>
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libncurses5 (>= 5.4-1)
Recommends: console-tools
Suggests: cmatrix-xfont
Architecture: amd64
Filename: pool/unstable/main/amd64/c/cmatrix/cmatrix_1.2a-2_amd64.deb
Size: 17150
MD5sum: 74c9720338a5c9c2e2857d853c35c196
Description: Console Matrix simulates the display from "The Matrix"
It is based on the screensaver from the movie's website. It works with
terminal settings up to 132x300 and can scroll lines all at the same rate
installed-size: 112


If you really want a "matrix" screen saver, my best suggestion is the XScreensaver modules, and program. It has two of them, one is the "standard" matrix console, with the text scrolling down your screen, and the other, which is for 3D "GLX" rendering, it does a 3D version of the same display. My "usual" installs of the XScreensaver packages is: xscreensaver, xscreensaver-gl, rss-glx -=- which is the "main" screensaver program, the "standard" xscreensaver modules for "Open GL", and the last one is "Really Slick GL" x screensavers modules. You can do a apt-cache show [package] to get the full descriptions on any package that you want to install, this also will show what, if any, packages the [package] will want to recommen, and suggest.

Again, I hope this helps,
Ms. Cuddles
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