Knoppix 3.4 with 2.6 kernel available in two weeks?

[aay]

I found this announcment here (http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=8351).

Can any German speaking users confirm this? Perhaps this was also on the developers list. I haven't been watching it too much recently. In any event it sounds pretty cool.

[probono]

Yes, you are right. The website of the c't magazine says:

Issue 4/2004 is due February 9, 2004

Companies appreciate it for its security and reliabilit. Private users, however, are still reluctant to use Linux. Why is that? c't tests everyday usability of system and applications and presents on the attached CD-ROM a breakting fresh Knoppix 3.4 with Kernel 2.6 for you to try out.

(translation from: http://www.heise.de/ct/inhverz/vorschau.shtml)

[c123]

check out the mailing list... here's a post from Klaus http://mailman.linuxtag.org/pipermail/debian-knoppix/2004-January/004506.html, click [thread] above the message to see more/later messages on the same topic

To save you the time here's the pertinent message:

The first public version of KNOPPIX 3.4 will be announced and
distributed (if everything goes well) at CeBit 2004
(http://www.cebit.de/), and also be available for download shortly
afterwards.

The private edition in a german computer magazine is independent
thereof.

I'm still doing an update of the current 3.3 version, but have been
waiting for the XFS patch for Kernel 2.4.24 for quite a while without
success (it's still not there on
ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/patches/2.4.24, anybody happens to know
why it is delayed?). Now KDE 3.1.5 is slowly entering Debian/unstable,
and I will probably include it in the 3.3 update as well, so please
allow me some more time for the update.


As for features of the new 3.3 and new 3.4 releases, check out aay's post of about two weeks ago (Klaus says nothing has changed).

HTH

[gowator]

I think Im getting Old!!!!!
I remember so well being excited about 2.4.....
It seemed like a must have - all that extra stuff built in....

Now 2.6 looks even better but Im not excited
I should be buying an AMD64 and getting 2.6 but Im just thinking about my server uptime.....

Whats wrong with me....

Could it be that discovering knoppix has distrated me or am I just getting old...

[c123]

Well I'm interested in having a 2.6 kernel which is supposed to support firewire and wlan cards a lot better than at the moment. Also looking forward to updates of various packages.

And then I'm interested in seeing how Fabian has improved the installer, and if booting from firewire/USB is better/easier.

So I've got enough excitement for the both of us ;)

[David Douthitt]

I think Im getting Old!!!!!
I remember so well being excited about 2.4.....
It seemed like a must have - all that extra stuff built in....

Now 2.6 looks even better but Im not excited
I should be buying an AMD64 and getting 2.6 but Im just thinking about my server uptime.....

Whats wrong with me....

Could it be that discovering knoppix has distrated me or am I just getting old...

He he. I remember waiting for 2.0 with baited breath.... and all the talk...

First time I saw Linux it was Slackware on 12 diskettes, loaded onto a 386SX-16 with 150M HD and 4M of RAM (and lots of swap space!!!).

Feel better now? ;-)

[sn0wflake]

Any chance that the nVidia Linux 2.6 driver will be included in Knoppix 3.4?

http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/2163
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-5336.html

[heffeque]

Or something that makes my ATi work correctly in Linux. Basicly nForce2 motherboard, ATi video card and Linux all toguether... don't mix very well... I read something in a web page that if you wanted that configuration to work, a kernel recompilation was necesary... :? Oh well... maybe in 20 or 30 years my system will be totaly compatible with Linux :(

[aay]

Any chance that the nVidia Linux 2.6 driver will be included in Knoppix 3.4?

http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/2163
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-5336.html

No. I think the nividia license allows for such distribution, but Kluas is not persuaded. Kano or Fabianix may have an install script for it however as they did for 2.4.x

[sn0wflake]

Is the release date for Knoppix 3.4, February 9th, related to the KDE 3.2 release date, February 2nd?

http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7689
http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.2-release-plan.html

[aay]

Is the release date for Knoppix 3.4, February 9th, related to the KDE 3.2 release date, February 2nd?

http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7689
http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.2-release-plan.html

By reckoning the official release will be much later than this. Feb 9th is the date that 3.4 will appear in the above mentioned magazine. I believe Klaus has said that 3.4 won't be "officially" released until after the Cebit conference (March 18 - 24). So unless somone in German wants to get a copy of it from the magazine and put up a bit torrent link somewhere (hint hint), we won't be getting it for a while.

[heffeque]

I found the information about ATi's drivers http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=22 <- here.

[Li Gwai Lo]

Any chance that the nVidia Linux 2.6 driver will be included in Knoppix 3.4?

http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/2163
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-5336.html

No. I think the nividia license allows for such distribution, but Kluas is not persuaded. Kano or Fabianix may have an install script for it however as they did for 2.4.x

Doesn't make sense. From the NVidia licensing page:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/nv_swlicense.html

2.1.2 Linux Exception. Notwithstanding the foregoing terms of Section 2.1.1, SOFTWARE designed exclusively for use on the Linux operating system may be copied and redistributed, provided that the binary files thereof are not modified in any way (except for unzipping of compressed files).
IOW, as long as the driver doesn't need to be modified to work under Knoppix, redistribution is explicitly allowed.

If Knoppix has some sort of special driver-loader which requires wrappers or format conversion, that would be a problem, but if Knoppix works just like any other Linux, then sehr gut.

[arkaine23]

except for unzippingn of compressed files- however running them in a cloop compressed image is compressing them and hence is altering them. They are distributed in tar.gz generally. However, adding them in knoppix requires uncompressing them (ok), and then recompressing them into cloop (probably not ok).

Of course if you gutting 60% of knoppix, you could fit it on a CD without cloop compression....

[aay]

except for unzippingn of compressed files- however running them in a cloop compressed image is compressing them and hence is altering them. They are distributed in tar.gz generally. However, adding them in knoppix requires uncompressing them (ok), and then recompressing them into cloop (probably not ok).

Alex (creator of Morphix) asked Nvidia if it would be ok to include the drivers on Morphix. They said it would be fine. I think (not completely sure) that this was told to Klaus.

[Li Gwai Lo]

except for unzippingn of compressed files- however running them in a cloop compressed image is compressing them and hence is altering them. They are distributed in tar.gz generally. However, adding them in knoppix requires uncompressing them (ok), and then recompressing them into cloop (probably not ok).

Of course if you gutting 60% of knoppix, you could fit it on a CD without cloop compression....
So, if it's not ok to compress them, but it's ok to uncompress them, how did they become compressed in the first place??

Given that other distributions include them (and the comment about Morphix being told by NVidia that it's ok), I'm guessing this is just "someone" playing political games. Ok, I'll just have to learn to do remastering. Meanwhile, MandrakeMove (free download edition) seemed to boot fine on my SN41G2 XPC (NForce2), so I assume MM has the NVidia drivers in it too (although it's nowhere nearly as nice-looking or smooth as Knoppix!).

[dg1sek]

... 3.4 won't be "officially" released until after the Cebit conference (March 18 - 24). So unless somone in German wants to get a copy of it from the magazine and put up a bit torrent link somewhere (hint hint), we won't be getting it for a while... .

I guess that a Knoppix CD shipped with the c't magazine could be shared on the Internet without any problems?
But, I am afraid, that most likely ít will be a German version... ? Any serious Linux user speaking German is subscribed to c't anyhow :-)

[aay]

I guess that a Knoppix CD shipped with the c't magazine could be shared on the Internet without any problems?
But, I am afraid, that most likely ít will be a German version... ? Any serious Linux user speaking German is subscribed to c't anyhow :-)

The language defaults can be set at boot time with cheat codes. "knoppix lang=us" on the german disk should boot up into English.

[Bernd Blaauw]

I hope someone will put the bootdisk image online.
I reported that TORAM copied entire cd, not just KNOPPIX directory.

not nice for a DVD..I don't have 4.5GB RAM :)

there will be a new cheatcode.."fromdvd"

[Alextreme]

one of the major issues in moving to 2.6 is/was cloop. One of our comrades in action (toasty) found http://yui.mine.nu/linux/eberry.html seems someone already ported cloop to 2.6.x. Not sure if this was known before, but wanted to give you guys something to play around with ;-)

Anyway, have cloop (with the 2.6 changes) packaged and up on http://am.xs4all.nl/morphix/debs/2.6 for all interested. Do note that I don't even know if they work, and that the packages don't come from Klaus, so don't bother him about them. Klaus will probably have ported cloop himself by now, so they might become redundant soon. YMWV. You're on your own :-) (i'll bug good ol' Kano about this too, he's darn quick when it comes to extra kernel changes). I personally won't overhaul Morphix to 2.6 soon, rather take this step carefully :-D

and about Nvidia, I don't think Klaus wants them in Knoppix, but I havn't discussed this with him personally. I have asked Nvidia, and compression wasn't a form of modification. They're only frightend about reverse-engineering et al. But, the license isn't too clear, so I can understand why he wouldn't want them included. Legal issues suck ;-)

Cheers, and happy hacking!

[mazphil57]

check out the mailing list... here's a post from Klaus http://mailman.linuxtag.org/pipermail/debian-knoppix/2004-January/004506.html, click [thread] above the message to see more/later messages on the same topic

To save you the time here's the pertinent message:

The first public version of KNOPPIX 3.4 will be announced and
distributed (if everything goes well) at CeBit 2004
(http://www.cebit.de/), and also be available for download shortly
afterwards.

The private edition in a german computer magazine is independent
thereof.

I'm still doing an update of the current 3.3 version, but have been
waiting for the XFS patch for Kernel 2.4.24 for quite a while without
success (it's still not there on
ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/patches/2.4.24, anybody happens to know
why it is delayed?). Now KDE 3.1.5 is slowly entering Debian/unstable,
and I will probably include it in the 3.3 update as well, so please
allow me some more time for the update.


As for features of the new 3.3 and new 3.4 releases, check out aay's post of about two weeks ago (Klaus says nothing has changed).

HTH

In the kernel source I've gotten from http://kernel.org for both 2.4.25 and 2.6, the XFS support is already there (without applying any patch). I'm not sure when this changed but it is nice being able to build this into the kernel since I use XFS now exclusively. The 2.6 changelogs show coders at SGI (and Intel, IBM, HP, etc.) are major contributors to kernel development.

[c123]

one of the major issues in moving to 2.6 is/was cloop. One of our comrades in action (toasty) found http://yui.mine.nu/linux/eberry.html seems someone already ported cloop to 2.6.x. Not sure if this was known before, but wanted to give you guys something to play around with ;-)

The inevitable question - has anyone played around with this live CD? The author has helpfully put up a page listing the diffenrence between his live CD and Knoppix. Basically Berry is based on Red Hat (Fedora?) while Knoppix is of course based on Debian. The really interesting thing is IMO the new kernel :))

[locutus]

Just tried Berry v0.36 and it wouldn't boot on a dual overclocked celeron( BP6 ) running at 500MHz. It booted to a VERY limited shell with the previous error message saying it couldn't mount/find the CDROM.

oh well. Next....

[flubba]

I'm just writing this with the Knoppix 3.4 c't edition (subscribers get the c't today). It booted with no problems on my Dell PC.
uname -a
Linux Knoppix 2.6.1 #1 SMP Thu Jan 15 15:10:43 CET 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
The KDE version it uses is 3.1.4 by the way.

[tboege]

Please mail me the a .torrent using the tracker on http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969/announce and I will make it available from http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969/ and http://www.boegenielsen.dk/knoppix

[EmDee]

I'm just writing this with the Knoppix 3.4 c't edition (subscribers get the c't today). It booted with no problems on my Dell PC.
uname -a
Linux Knoppix 2.6.1 #1 SMP Thu Jan 15 15:10:43 CET 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
The KDE version it uses is 3.1.4 by the way.
hey, wanna set up a ftp-server? :wink:
I can't wait till monday, I will go get the latest issue of the c't-magazine first thing in the morning! BTW, according to http://heise.de/ct/ftp/projekte/knoppix/ (in german) knoppix 3.4 c't-edition also includes gnome 2.4, captive and a "live-installer" (sounds like klik:// to me)..

[EmDee]

one of the major issues in moving to 2.6 is/was cloop. One of our comrades in action (toasty) found http://yui.mine.nu/linux/eberry.html seems someone already ported cloop to 2.6.x. Not sure if this was known before, but wanted to give you guys something to play around with ;-)

AFAIK, the gentoo folks also have something in the works for cloop on linux 2.6. http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero/gcloop/ is what I (well, google actually;-) found so far.

[locutus]

I'm just writing this with the Knoppix 3.4 c't edition (subscribers get the c't today). It booted with no problems on my Dell PC.
uname -a
Linux Knoppix 2.6.1 #1 SMP Thu Jan 15 15:10:43 CET 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
The KDE version it uses is 3.1.4 by the way.

Flubba, you lucky dog you. :) So, have you noticed anything different? Because of the I/O bound loading of apps/etc, performance boosts will probably only be seen in things loaded and not swapping out. Some of the current tests of 2.4 vs 2.6 show some darn good improvements on performance though the pre-emptive stuff should "feel" different too.

When somebody gonna post the ISO somewhere? ;-)

[sn0wflake]

I'm thinking of waiting for Knoppix 3.5 due to the huge Linux kernel changelogs like http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/ChangeLog-2.6.3-rc1
If Knoppix 3.4 has the 2.6.1 kernel, I'll wait for a more stable kernel with a shorter changelog, before I install it to harddisk.
Anyway, I can't wait to boot Knoppix 3.4 from CD :)

[strushb]

Hey guys, since nobody objected when some asked for the iso, i am going to seed it (bittorrent), please remove Post if it is not wanted here. I am using an open tracker I found today, so be patient :)

Warning - I did not find any Statements that this Data should not be posted to Internet, but please check for yourself. I checked the files that i ripped off the CD with the md5sums on the disk, so it should work fine.

Torrent (http://www.torrentz.com/torrents/download_3357)

[Stephen]

Hey guys, since nobody objected when some asked for the iso, i am going to seed it (bittorrent), please remove Post if it is not wanted here. I am using an open tracker I found today, so be patient :)

Warning - I did not find any Statements that this Data should not be posted to Internet, but please check for yourself. I checked the files that i ripped off the CD with the md5sums on the disk, so it should work fine.

Torrent (http://www.torrentz.com/torrents/download_3357)

You have no worries about re-distribution Knoppix is GPL software however I get a bad data from tracker error and the file size is 685.9 mb which seems a little low since Klaus usually takes it up to almost the limit on the disk.

[t3rmin]

Not working here either:

ERROR:
bad data from tracker -

saving: Knoppix-3.4-2004-01-22-de-bySTrushB.iso (685.9 MB)
percent done: 0
time left: Download Failed!
download to: /usr/iso/Knoppix-3.4-2004-01-22-de-bySTrushB.iso

[kbob]

I'm able to use it using Shad0w's bittorrent client, but not with the official client. (I don't understand how a torrent can be made that doesn't work with the official client, but there it is.) Unfortunately, there are very few participants in this torrent.

Anyway, download Shad0w's bittorrent client (http://bt.degreez.net/) and try again.

K&lt;bob>

[flubba]

Knoppix 3.4 seems to run great. I hevan't tested it so much yet I just tried to install it on HD but that doesn't seem to work for me. It doesn't work for some guys on heise.de/ct, too so I think that I will have to wait until the final 3.4 comes out.
I'm not sure how to publish the knoppix cd bittorrent wouldnÄt work because of the NAT I think.
If any body has an ftp available I would upload it. It seems to be available in edonkey/emule, too but only 2 people or so have it.

[probono]

If anyone already has 3.4 running, I would be very interested whether it works with klik - let's say for the RealPlayer package.

[ijuz]

If you want to try out knoppix 3.4 I would suggest to join #knoppix on irc.freenode.net there is a bittorrent (that works with the normal client) with 4 seeds and no downloaders.

[Joe999]

Just burned the iso. uname -a returned
Linux Knoppix 2.4.23-xfs #1 SMP Mi Dez 10 22:25:03 CET 2003 i686 GNU/Linux


I thought it had 2.6? Is there an option that has to be passed on boot to use it instead of the 2.4 kernel?

[Stephen]

Just burned the iso. uname -a returned
Linux Knoppix 2.4.23-xfs #1 SMP Mi Dez 10 22:25:03 CET 2003 i686 GNU/Linux


I thought it had 2.6? Is there an option that has to be passed on boot to use it instead of the 2.4 kernel?

knoppix26 at the boot: prompt and if you need English then you may want to add lang=us you get the = by using SHIFT and 0 (zero) at the same time the keyboard layout is German as well and I needed to use the wheelmouse cheat code to get the scrollwheel working with the 2.6 kernel.

[locutus]

knoppix26 didn't boot on my system. Looks like a problem finding the CDROM off of the Adaptec SCSI card. Last error was saying that it was looking at /dev/hde for the CDROM when infact, /dev/hde is an IDE HD( have 2 IDE HD's with one being an HPT366 ).

knoppix24( the 2.4.x kernel ) booted fine. As mentioned in the other thread, KDE seemed a bit more responsive but that's all I really noticed with very littel other testing.

[sk545]

torrent site has been takes down. Anyone have a link to download the torrent from?

[tboege]

For .torrent for Knoppix 3.4 C't version,
try http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969/

[sk545]

thanks, that works. :)

[spiritwing]

Hi all,


Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 6:52 am
For .torrent for Knoppix 3.4 C't version,
try http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969/

does anyone have the md5 sum for this?

Or can someone tell me what hash algorythim was used to generate the hash on this page:

http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969/stats.html?info_hash=f8b06b530c3426cf4d3744a600e88 f072ce59524


Cheers,
Silas Bennett

=0)

[tboege]

I have generated the torrent with the utility from the bittorrrentpackage called btmakemetafile.

The hash is included in the .torrent, which can bee seen with the help of the command
btshoinfo:

$btshowmetainfo Knoppix34-ct.iso.torrent
btshowmetainfo 20021207 - decode BitTorrent metainfo files

metainfo file.: Knoppix34-ct.iso.torrent
info hash.....: f8b06b530c3426cf4d3744a600e88f072ce59524
file name.....: Knoppix34-ct.iso
file size.....: 719181824 (2743 * 262144 + 120832)
announce url..: http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969/announce

I have now added the md5sum as a comment to the torrent, available from the tracker-homepage - and now here:
1103c0af2af9773d9e33d2d7152e3030 Knoppix34-ct.iso

[timread]

Well after finally getting a copy (many thanks to the folks who have set up bit torrents), the 2.6.1 kernal version (knoppix26) ran perfectly on my desktop system (DELL Dimension 4500) but refused to boot on my laptop (SONY Vaio) not arriving at the inicial startup screen once I had selected knoppix26... I have had knoppix 3.3 running from the harddisk of the Vaio for several months without a single problem.

In both cases the usual knoppix 3.4 (not using the 2.6.1 kernal) boot worked fine...

I hope these boot problems are sorted for the final 3.4 version.

Tim

[Snow]

So without sounding like a stuck record.

When can we expect 3.4 out and from where can we download it?

[audioaficionado]

Check the other thread. People are already downloading it with bit-torrent.

[Snow]

I dont have that set up and dont know how to.
I am very nube.

I know how to DL from most mirrors but that is about it.

[tarpon]

Go here and download and install Bittorrent. They have a link.

http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969/

Pretty simple actually. After Bt is installed go back to the same page and click on the file you want. That's it.

[Bleim]

Hi all!
I'm spanish, I have 3.2 knoppix on hd, and I would like to upgrade.
What can I do to upgrade without loose today configuration?
I thought to use apt-get update + apt-get upgrade (to Debian sid or testing).

But, maybe the best it's to get new 3.3 knoppix c't edition and install it.
Maybe I could download 3.4 and test and install it, but I read is only in deustch. But if i install it in hd, could I pass to spanish?

What did u do people?

Thanks.

[spiritwing]

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:31 pm
Hi all!
I'm spanish, I have 3.2 knoppix on hd, and I would like to upgrade.
What can I do to upgrade without loose today configuration?
I thought to use apt-get update + apt-get upgrade (to Debian sid or testing).

But, maybe the best it's to get new 3.3 knoppix c't edition and install it.
Maybe I could download 3.4 and test and install it, but I read is only in deustch. But if i install it in hd, could I pass to spanish?

What did u do people?

Thanks.

If you already have it installed to the hard drive the easiest way to upgrade is:

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade

The only advantage of installing with the 3.4 version of Knoppix is that it is an easy way to transition to the 2.6 kernel series. But if that is what you want to do, please note THE KNOPPIX 3.4 C'T VERSION DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO INSTALL TO THE HARD DRIVE, so you will need to wait for the 3.4 official release sometime in March.

As far as using the c't version from the cd to test your hardware with the 3.4 version you can easily use the 2.6.1 kernel and your choice of language by entering at the boot prompt:

knoppix26 lang=<Your_Lang_Code_Here>


Cheers,
Silas Bennett

[arkaine23]

But it does have captive NTFS and some install-on-demand while running live scripts, so there are new features besides just the 2.6 kernel. Also for remasterers, it uses isolinux instead of syslinux, thus it is easier to replace the kernel, and size limitations are not so difficult to deal with.

Installer functionality may be disabled (because the installer scripts need a little reworking), but its easy enough to download the missing files and install it with both kernels with just a little tweaking..

[gowator]

Thanks spiritwing....

My bittorrent was at like 20 something hours to go so ill download it anyway...but at least I won't waste time trying a HD install.

[Snow]

Probono.

I was wondering if you could answer this question.

On what day in March is 3.4 expexted to be released so that Westerners can can download it from say www.knoppix.com or .net.

I am downloading the torrent version for the Ct release and will try the English cheat code. But I would realy like to know what day the 3.4 ISO is due out.

Also a question about the 3.4 DVD. When will it be available for how much and where can I buy it?

I will be picking up my next PC which will have a DVD player/burner in it and I expect that the DVD release will be a more complete Linux release and probably not compressed which would allow for faster access time.

Thank you for your time in answering these questions.

[paradocs]

Greetings Snow,

We are all watching for the new release.
There is no official schedual, just hints
of new good things comming out.

When it does come out, there always are
strong possibillities of a follow up release
in a few days to correct any bugs.
This is just the nature of open source
development and is part of its strength.

Congratulatins on your new PC and DVD.
Be sure to check it out with KNOPPIX.

There was only one official DVD LinuxTag and I
work from it frequently. I have not heard of any
new plans for a KNOPPIX DVD.

As for compression -- it is good for KNOPPIX.
Rather than slowing things down, fetching
compressed date is more efficient. But
I agree that putting even more programs
together is great.

Best Wishes
paradocs

[besonen]

all you geeks chomping at the bit for knoppix 3.4, check out libranet.

http://www.libranet.com/

i *highly* recommend this distro.

the current 2.8.1 release isn't as up-to-date as knoppix, but once it's installed you can update it via the libranet safe-archive.

the safe-archive doesn't include 2.6 yet, but folks are compiling it for themselves.

anyhoo, a great community there too.

one final note, after a hard drive install you end up with a 100% debian archive compatible system. no more begging/hoping knoppix will be what *you* want it to be.

ciao,

david

[audioaficionado]

The free 2.7 classic is also fully upgradable too. I've always like Libranet as an almost painless n00b friendly Debian distro. It's a very well put together package.

[Superstoned]

mephis offers the same (mephis.org i guess) although it isnt free (like libranet).

personally, I think knoppix is ok for installing debian.

if you want it easier, go mandrake or ark-linux.

if you want it faster, go slackware or gentoo.

if you can afford it, go xandros or lindows.

if you have patience, wait for the new debian-installer.

[popuman]

mepis is fairly easy and yes there's a free version of it. http://www.mepis.org

[Superstoned]

well, at least I hope Knoppix 3.4 will include KDE 3.2 or 3.2.1 (which is about to appear next week)

[Yakumo]

I tried lindows 4.5 live.

thouht it was abysmal tbh, it offers a desktop and a web browser and that's about all it's usefull for.

[Snow]

I tried lindows 4.5 live.

thouht it was abysmal tbh, it offers a desktop and a web browser and that's about all it's usefull for.

Keep in mind that Lindows was not set up for Linux users. It was set up for Windows users that are begining in the Linux world. Regular Linux users more often than not will not like it because it is not what they will expect from a Linux distro. However if you are a Windows user and looking to make a move away from Windows and the Microsoft strangle hold it is a very good distro.

It was the first Linux distro I was ever able to understand and use. I gave me a better understanding of what Linux was and how to use KDE. I was at the time a strictly Windows user and looking hard to get away but I had no experiance with Linux and no one to go to to ask questions. LindowsOS and those people in the Lindows forum were very helpfull in getting me started in Linux. I now use Linux 99.99% of the time for just about everything. There are a few odd things that I still need to use Windows for but I hope that will pass.

Lindows may not be what you expect in a Linux distro. Or what you expect should be in a Linux distro. But for beginers in Linux that have NO ONE to learn from and who need a easy to use distro Lindows is a good one. I had no idea how to install Linux software. Still know very little about it. Because I still have no one to learn from, ( I am one of those people who needs to have some one show them ( I need to see it ) I still dont realy understand apt-get or anything about installing RPM files or tarballs etc.

Lindows CNR was a huge reason for my moving to it. And now that Knoppix is doing Point and Klick I and many people from the Lindows forum are very interested in Knoppix.

Mandrake was the first Linux distro I tried. WAY over my head. No one to learn from.

Untill you are in the shoes of some one that wants to be out from under Bill Gates thumb but knows nothing about any other OS,and has no one to turn to to learn. Please try not to knock them.

All OSs that are not Windows ( particularly those that are Linux ) are all good.

Remember. Every person that changes to Linux ( Any distrobution ) is a win for Linux and the world. The point is not to rip on which Linux distro is good or bad ( since all Linux distros have their place ) it is to get as many people away from Microsoft and Windows as possable. Wether they migrate to BeOS or Linux or Unix, BSD, Mac, or any other OS. Makes no difference. So long as they get away from Windows.

Also in refrence to your post, there is a great deal you can do with Lindows right out of the box.

What do you want to do? Dont diss other Linux distros. Support them. Linux is the future, we all know it but if we go around bad mouthing the OS we use ( and by that I mean Linux, because many people dont know the difference between Knoppix, Red Hat, SuSE, Mandrake, Lindows all they hear is Linux and if we are talking poorly about it they will not try Linux )
They will wonder why we bother because we are bad mouthing the OS we say we like.

[David Ormsby-Gore]

I agree with the view that Lindows provides both a good and serviceable and powerful operating system based on Linux, and an excellent way for people to easily move away from Microsoft and Windows and Mr. Gates.

Lindows works out of the box for most Windows users; Lindows supports most hardware and provides an almost effortless install; Lindows works like Windows for Windows users. And it must be observed that moving folks away from Microsoft, Windows, and Mr. Gates is a good thing no matter what.

Having said that, it is also true that for some folks, perhaps for most folks,
Knoppix is an equally good and perhaps better solution for moving away from Microsoft, Windows, and Mr. Gates, and certainly a better solution for those interested in learning about operating systems in general and software in particular. Knoppix is both a powerful Linux distribution and an excellent learning tool.

Knoppix works out of the box (or download); Knoppix supports most hardware and provides an essentially effortless install; Knoppix works intuitively for most people currently using Windows 95/98/and beyond; and Knoppix is free. Absolutely free. In fact Knoppix is so bloody good and so easy to use and so boundlessly powerful and so infinitely, infinitely free, that for the first time in my life I am buying for actual money my first "official" Knoppix release, because Knoppix is simply that good.

Three cheers for Knoppix.


[A. Jorge Garcia]

Snow, I'm curious - when you mention "Point and Klick," what exactly are you talking about?

BTW, isn't 3.4 due out soon or is the c't version all we get?

TIA,
AJG

[Snow]

Snow, I'm curious - when you mention "Point and Klick," what exactly are you talking about?

BTW, isn't 3.4 due out soon or is the c't version all we get?

TIA,
AJG

Knoppix is involved in a project called the "Point and Klick software store" It is very much like Lindows CNR except it is totaly free (as in beer and Open Source )
It is here in the forums. I will try to find the info about it and put it here.
Try going to this link. http://klik.berlios.de/

[A. Jorge Garcia]

Oh, that would be probono's project klik, right?

http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7680

This is not technically an official part of knoppix as yet, just a fun add-on being developed by probono. This project is very interesting for people running only a liveCD but redundant for hdinstall (use apt-get...).

Regards,
AJG

[Snow]

Quite true. I was not trying to knock Knoppix, Would not knock Knoppix. I first learned about Knoppix in the Lindows forums. A member there had just discoverd it and was telling everyone how cool it was. I went to the link that the member provided and downloaded my first Knoppix ISO 3.2. I have been a Knoppix user ever since.
Lindows took a little while to get all the drivers in it I needed to run my computers. But Knoppix ran my systems just fine, so I used Knoppix for a very long time untill Lindows caught up.
Knoppix is a great Debian Distro and as the Point and Klick software store grows it will be even greater for Linux converts.
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However as much as hard core Linux users dislike the pay idea behind CNR it does have its merrits. The people at Lindows are trying to get as much Linux software addapted to the CNR download system as fast as possable so that people can easily install Linux software on their Linux/Lindows computer as easily as possable.

To addapt the large amounts of software that there is in a short time they have to have a crew of people working all the time, that crew does this job as just that, a job and need to be paid. For me 49.00 a year for a CNR membership is fine. I get access to almost 2000 programs not counting the CNB (Click and Buy) programs. These are programs from Companies like Garage Games, etc. Companies that wright profesional products for Linux and wish to be paid for their efforts.
With a windows unit if I want to buy a program I have to pay a minimum of 10.00 for a small program or as much as 400.00 for some Office programs. Now I know there is a great deal of free windows software out there but some things there just arent any free versions of, and you have to pay for them. The same will hold tru with Linux and CD versions that you buy at the store and install are going to have to be made available.
Hence CNB (Click N Buy)

As the P&KSS grows Knoppix use will realy take off. I have used the P&KSS and it is very easy. Linux new comers will love it and how easy it makes software installation. But the P&KSS is built by volunteers, and volunteers almost without exception have full time jobs they have to work to put food on the table and feed their families with, so the amount of time they get to help with this project is somewhat limited and the P&KSS growth will be slow. Also Linux new commers will not and do not understand what apt-get is. Many people have no one to turn to to learn things like this and because they have no exposier to command line work they will almost never be able to learn how to apt-get, Load RPM files, or use Tarballs.

So services like the Point and Klick Software Store, and CNR, and YaST I think it is in SuSE ( I probably have that wrong,sorry, I know SuSE has a system like this but since I dont use SuSE I'm Not sure of the name) will be vital to the addoption of Linux in to the Desktop arena.
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Also as great as these systems are one more area needs to be addressed. Eventualy people are going to want to go out and Buy their Linux software on CD just like they do the Windows software. A Linux software installer needs to be developed that covers all Debian distros. I heard once about a program that was under development that could take RPM and Deb files and intall them on most any distro. Note this was not a program that converted RPM to Deb files but one that insatlled both to any Linux distro. I never did find out what happened with it but something like it is very much needed. In order for Many people to take Linux seriously they will need to be able to buy their programs at the store and install them on their Linux PC (Distro not important) as easily as they would software to a windows unit.






I agree with the view that Lindows provides both a good and serviceable and powerful operating system based on Linux, and an excellent way for people to easily move away from Microsoft and Windows and Mr. Gates.

Lindows works out of the box for most Windows users; Lindows supports most hardware and provides an almost effortless install; Lindows works like Windows for Windows users. And it must be observed that moving folks away from Microsoft, Windows, and Mr. Gates is a good thing no matter what.

Having said that, it is also true that for some folks, perhaps for most folks,
Knoppix is an equally good and perhaps better solution for moving away from Microsoft, Windows, and Mr. Gates, and certainly a better solution for those interested in learning about operating systems in general and software in particular. Knoppix is both a powerful Linux distribution and an excellent learning tool.

Knoppix works out of the box (or download); Knoppix supports most hardware and provides an essentially effortless install; Knoppix works intuitively for most people currently using Windows 95/98/and beyond; and Knoppix is free. Absolutely free. In fact Knoppix is so bloody good and so easy to use and so boundlessly powerful and so infinitely, infinitely free, that for the first time in my life I am buying for actual money my first "official" Knoppix release, because Knoppix is simply that good.

Three cheers for Knoppix.


[A. Jorge Garcia]

There's plenty of KNOPPIX CD vendors out there (just do a search on ebay for KNOPPIX).

Further, I have access to tons of software free for the download and easy to install on a knoppix-installed as debian system just using apt-cache search and apt-get update/upgrade/install/upgrade. Using klik is not a standard way of installing software on Linux systems. klik, as I understand it, is run by a user, not for the whole system via root. This can waste a lot of resources on a file server shared by several users.

Are you using a strickly liveCD install or hdd? If you are using hdd, then you shouldlook into apt-get.

Enjoy,
AJG

[Snow]

On a different note. I have the Knoppix 3.4 c't release. It wil not install to a hard drive. Will the new 3.4 be installable.

[A. Jorge Garcia]

That's what I'd like to know. I imagine the "real" 3.4 will be installable. When can we expect it???

TIA,
AJG

[Stephen]

That's what I'd like to know. I imagine the "real" 3.4 will be installable. When can we expect it???

TIA,
AJG

Another couple of weeks when Cbit takes place in Germany.

Snow: The 3.4 c't is installable you just have to get the template file and have it in the current directory when you start the install.

[A. Jorge Garcia]

Is that install issue the only difference between the current 3.4 c't version and the upcoming 3.4?

TIA,
AJG

[rcook]

I suspect there is more than the install. I have remastered a C'T to boot in us english. It apparently does not recognize a wireless card in my notebook, which 3.3 (2-19-04) does successfully. I haven't had time to dig into it, but I beleive this is a kernel mod issue.

[EmDee]

ok, guys, I bought the latest issue of the c't magazine this morning (as I do on every 2nd monday;-) and there's some news regarding knoppix 3.4; there will be a "cebit edition" available at the c't booth by the 18th of march! It features the 2.6.3 and 2.4.25 kernels, improved bluetooth (via bluez-utils) and irda support for mobile connectivity, IPsec tools, nxclient (as a universal remote terminal client for x11, windows and vnc), nforce NIC- and prism 802.11g driver! Theres not much more info at the moment and unfortunately I'm lacking the time and money to go to cebit myself, so I hope someone will be able to provide us with a bittorrent link!

[aay]

ok, guys, I bought the latest issue of the c't magazine this morning (as I do on every 2nd monday;-) and there's some news regarding knoppix 3.4; there will be a "cebit edition" available at the c't booth by the 18th of march! It features the 2.6.3 and 2.4.25 kernels, improved bluetooth (via bluez-utils) and irda support for mobile connectivity, IPsec tools, nxclient (as a universal remote terminal client for x11, windows and vnc), nforce NIC- and prism 802.11g driver! Theres not much more info at the moment and unfortunately I'm lacking the time and money to go to cebit myself, so I hope someone will be able to provide us with a bittorrent link!

Cool. Thanks for the info. I agree and also hope that someone who attends can set up a bittorrent link.

Adam

[tboege]

If anoyone are lucky to get the cebit-release, feel welcome to use my tracker at http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969 (or http://www.bøge.dk:6969) for the torrent.

Mail me the torrent - or mail me for an account, so you can upload the torrent yourself.

thomas@boegenielsen.dk

[ziyad]

is it in english or just german

[spiff1281]

multilanguage

[akorvemaker]

Just to clarify: this cebit release is identical to the C't ISO that was available a month ago, correct?

Edit: Oops. I just read the accouncement again. Different question: the Knoppix34-ct.iso currently listed at tboege's tracker (http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969/) is the month old one, and this cebit release is not yet listed there, correct? (I didn't think to check the date listed before I downloaded it - silly me).

[Snow]

WHEN WHEN WHEN????

[SonGoCHaiN]

It has happened long time since version 3.4 announced, how time we must hope to download it?

[spiff1281]

I think we have to wait untill CeBIT (18 March) www.cebit.de.

Can anyone confirm it?

[Snow]

If we just knew a date to look forward to it would help a great deal.
:D

[Stephen]

If we just knew a date to look forward to it would help a great deal.
:D

I'll give it about an hour after the first person gets their hands on it and the bittorrents will be flying and since the event is in Germany I'll put my money on 5:00am EST March 18th for the first post with a torrent.

[SUOrangeman]

http://www.loadux.com/freeservers.html

Hmmm.

-SUO

[Snow]

http://www.loadux.com/freeservers.html

Hmmm.

-SUO

That is not fair. :( I dont have any web page to link to but I want the ISO or CD. Guess I will have to wait like the rest.

Does this particular copy burn to the harddrive?
When 3.4 is available to the general public I am putting it on my laptop. Replacing that other Linux distro.

[sn0wflake]

When Knoppix 3.4 Cebit is released I'll install it on my primary PC. I'm finally dead tired of random freezes from my Hauppauge TV card and running Norton Antivirus with highest level of protection (that takes a lot of my 800 MHz CPU).
It took me a long time to realize that switching would benefit me much. I first had to figure out how to move my Windows games (Battlefield 1942/Desert Combat, SimCity 4, and The Sims). I'm sure there will be other problems. The latest is a KDE replacement for Gamespy.
Bottom line is - f*k Windows :evil:

[Snow]

When Knoppix 3.4 Cebit is released I'll install it on my primary PC. I'm finally dead tired of random freezes from my Hauppauge TV card and running Norton Antivirus with highest level of protection (that takes a lot of my 800 MHz CPU).
It took me a long time to realize that switching would benefit me much. I first had to figure out how to move my Windows games (Battlefield 1942/Desert Combat, SimCity 4, and The Sims). I'm sure there will be other problems. The latest is a KDE replacement for Gamespy.
Bottom line is - f*k Windows :evil:

3.4 Cebit . Is this the official name of the next Knoppix release?
Or the name of the next release before the official release?

And this should probably be.
Bottom line is - f*k Microsoft :evil:

Because Windows is only as good as Microsoft makes it.

[Camel]

is it true that the cebit version will be a proper release of knoppix => like 3.3? as far as i know the ct-knoppix was only some remaster the magazine people did themselfes.

[patik]

http://www.loadux.com/freeservers.html

Hmmm.

-SUO

Well, I just submitted mine, hope it comes. If it comes before 3/18 I'll be sure to rip it and start a tracker :D

[Craig2]

Never used torrent before. Can I use and is it on the 3.3 Knoppix CD? Can I use it if running Knoppix from the CD? Can I host? What do I need to do to host?

Thanks.

[patelbhavesh]

Never used torrent before. Can I use and is it on the 3.3 Knoppix CD? Can I use it if running Knoppix from the CD? Can I host? What do I need to do to host?

Thanks.
You need to download a bitttorrent client and you might need to open up some firewall ports based on the client which you are using.I kind of like http://azureus.sf.net as the bittorrent client but you can find any other client on http://www.sourceforge.net

Basically bittorrent is another p2p file sharing network where in you download from other peers and then you atuomatically start sharing the files on the network so that others can download from your machine.

Bittorrent is not the only option to download iso images.
You can also download via other p2p netowrks like gnutella,edonkey,overnet kazaa etc.
Once I download the ISO images typically I release the ISO on the other p2p networks.
For variosu p2p networks and clients goto http://www.zeropaid.com

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Free Software , Free Speech ,Free Society
http://bhavesh.freeshell.org

[mcaycedo]

Yep, you can use bittorrent with knoppix. First of all you need some place with read/write access to store the downloads and There are various bit torrent files. There is some btdownloadgui, but it generate some error (need some wxPython), but you can use btlaunchmany.

Launch one console, then, move to some place with read & write access, and then write "sudo btlaunchmany .". Then, must begin to appears some message like "All: Spd: 0 B/0 B Tot......", and this messages appears every 1 or 2 seconds.

Then, all you have to do is put some torrent files in this folder( the last dot in the command means: search the torrent files in this folder and dowload the files here; if you want you cant put the destination path here) . And the download will began automathically. In the text messages you will know about tour downloads.

[sn0wflake]

I'm not sure if Cebit has started but it's 16:22 here in Denmark. Does anyone have some piece of information on the status of Knoppix 3.4? Has it been released, are there any Bittorrent links, etc.?

[Rodriguez]

Arrr!
Its already 17:07 here in Germany and there is still no BT Tracker...

[spiff1281]

17:15 in Italy...no bittorent on orizont...

[c123]

18.32 CET and I'm leaving work, hopefully by the time I get home there'll be news about the new version... :))

[barl0w]

I'm wondering if this is our answer? The file name is "knoppix34-ct.iso".

http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969/

Well, if I can download it today, I guess I'll find out. Thanks for posting this if it is real!

Scott

[patelbhavesh]

I'm wondering if this is our answer? The file name is "knoppix34-ct.iso".

http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969/

Well, if I can download it today, I guess I'll find out. Thanks for posting this if it is real!

Scott
Im fairly positive that this one is not the new one.This is the c't edition which is the CD which came with the C't magazine sometime in February(it has 2.6 kernel init).Even if you see the date on the torrent you will see it was added on Feb 10. I had downloaded a copy of it in February to try the new 2.6 kernel.

-----------------------------------------------------
Free Software , Free Speech , Free Society
http://bhavesh.freeshell.org

[fmoran]

21:05 in Chile....

Still waiting

[mcaycedo]

20:23 Colombia

:( nope

[mcaycedo]

20:23 Colombia

:( nope

[j.drake]

19:33 in Texas

[spiritwing]

17:39 in California and Waiting

=0)

[Aleu]

9pm Virginia

[kuco]

22.02, ich warte. Chile :roll:

[koma]

19th march 15:38 - New Zealand.. nothing :/

[pinku]

19th March - 0828 India :(

[Aleu]

what the :evil: is going on? When will the new version released?
It is 11:08 VA again and nothing!!!

[Crusader]

I think I'll check back tomorrow night... Failing that I can explore the c't version...

[Frak]

02:29 - Baltimore, MD

Any news??

[spiritwing]

No! :(

[Duffin444]

23:26 in California

[savage]

I will add another useless comment. 1:02 AM in Victoria, Canada

[c123]

10:04 CET. And for once Google is useless

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=knoppix+3.4+cebit&sa=N&tab=wn

I don't believe it, Google News has nothing about the new Knoppix version. The just don't realise the importance of this release and how long people have been anticipating it...

[spiff1281]

I am sick! I can't no more...klausssssss! Release it, buddy!!! :cry:

[Superstoned]

11:24 AM in the netherlands: KLAUS!!! We need you on this one ;-)

whatever
Im goin to install debian with the new installer (which installs sarge, so that's ok)

but knoppix is sooo nice to show other ppl the nice linux/debian powers...

[tearinghairout]

Well, it looks my social activities for the next 48 hours have been pre-ordained - staying at home surfing the knoppix.net/forum web site hitting the refresh button every 10 seconds!
And people wonder why computer geeks never have (wive/husbands)/(girl/boy)friends/significant others/friends of the opposite sex/friends at all <me hangs head in shame>...guilty as charged... now, where was I?, Ahh yes, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click.

[Superstoned]

aren't we sick???

[talido]

anyone know when?

[Rodriguez]

Its already 13:03 in Germany and still no News? :shock:

Not even the people who distribute the CD on the Cebit have anything on their pages... (Heise and the TU Kaiserslautern) :evil:

[exterm]

Really people get a grip here ....will be out in due time

You all are like a bunch of Kids in a candy store hopeing to get some free candy

Try remembering this is a NEWS FORUM not a place to tell us the TIME
Every 20 minutes.


When the torrent does hit its going to be so bogged down any ways
so have some patience.

Its going to take more then 1 torrent to get the ball moving.
and if i was at CeBit last thing i would worry about is putting up a Torrent :roll:

[Camel]

Am i the only one pressing refresh every minute? :lol:

[Rodriguez]

@exterm: yes... thanks for your opinion. :roll:

@Camel: Who knows... :mrgreen:

[miauman]

Whennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Cuandooooooooooooooooooo

[j.drake]

Anybody know what time it is in, let's see now, . . . Ecuador??

[EmDee]

I see.. I'm not the only one who's more or less patiently waiting for a bittorrent link for knoppix 3.4 cebit-edition to show up;-) But remember, it was not meant to be distributed on the internet and will therefore not appear on the official mirrors or the tu-kaiserslautern (where klaus went to college) bt-tracker. It's kind of a release that was exclusively pressed on cd's for cebit and handed out to people attending there! IIRC, last year there was a official knoppix release right after cebit, so I'd expect a release around the 25th of march. Well, we'll see...

BTW, it's about 6 pm in Germany right now;-)

Edit: I found this post where klaus himself states that there'll be an official release after cebit and that he doesn't want to upload because of some "unusual" software he chose, anyway, go read for yourself; http://mailman.linuxtag.org/pipermail/debian-knoppix/2004-March/004873.html!

[EmDee]

Instead of waiting for a download source, you can buy your signed copy from ebay; http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3667459101&category=8133! lol, I'm not gonna buy it;-)

[sn0wflake]

I can't wait until Cebit ends ;)

EmDee: why do you have a naked man as an icon?

[Rodriguez]

Ah! Thanks for the enlightment EmDee :D

PS: I wonder how much sombody is willing to pay... *g*

[sn0wflake]

Rodriguez: a least the CD has Klaus Knoppers autograph :)

[EmDee]

EmDee: why do you have a naked man as an icon?
lol, I was waiting for someone to ask that question;-) I was searching images.google.com for "linus" and that picture came out on top of the page. It's supposed to be Linus, but although he's one of my personal heroes, I doubt he's got that much muscle mass... And resizing the image degraded the quality even more.. Anyway, theres not really a reason why I chose that pic, it doesn't look like me either, sadly!

[Markus]

Instead of waiting for a download source, you can buy your signed copy from ebay; http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3667459101&category=8133! lol, I'm not gonna buy it;-)

Is there something wrong with my eyesight or does it say C'T on the picture. Got that, want new one :D

[Rodriguez]

it doesn't look like me either, sadly!

I dont mind not looking like a 80x80 resized jpg... ;D

scnr ^^

[EmDee]

Instead of waiting for a download source, you can buy your signed copy from ebay; http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3667459101&category=8133! lol, I'm not gonna buy it;-)

Is there something wrong with my eyesight or does it say C'T on the picture. Got that, want new one :D

The original knoppix 3.4 c't-edition had an orange-ish cd, and that cd on ebay is absolutely sure the cebit-edition! It's just that the cebit-edition cds are being handed out at the c't booth (and the tu-kaiserslautern booth, too) and Klaus is doing knoppix presentations twice a day at cebit there!

[Markus]

Thanks, but I wasn't going to bid on it anyway.

[sn0wflake]

I have a film with Linus getting wet in speedos. I don't know if that's sick. If someone thinks so, please stop me :)
I can also mail you the strip (no pun intended)

[EmDee]

I have a film with Linus getting wet in speedos. I don't know if that's sick. If someone thinks so, please stop me :)
I can also mail you the strip (no pun intended)
Yeah, I've seen that one, though I would have rather seen mr Stallman getting dipped into the water;-) And no, thats not sick, its perfectly alright!

[A. Jorge Garcia]

OK, I'm ready. I have 2.5 euros right here! But what's the shipping from Hamburg???

Just Kidding, I think,
AJG

[monkeyman]

Arrgh! I am a pretty patient guy and normally don't whine. However, I have a brand new HTPC, hardware compliant for 2.6, and only waiting for the release so I can put the boot and image on the solid state HDD. It's cost me a boody fortune, even though I built it myself, and I am running out of Lager, cigarettes and fingernails. http://members.shaw.ca/sincnet/emote/furious.gif

[alekibango]

Tigren o irc.freenode.net #knoppix is willing to setup download for 50 euros....

i can give 10e. Are there other people willing to spend $$ or (better) willing to put 3.4 cd on bittorrent?

[EmDee]

Tigren o irc.freenode.net #knoppix is willing to setup download for 50 euros....

i can give 10e. Are there other people willing to spend $$ or (better) willing to put 3.4 cd on bittorrent?

I don't get this, what does this guy need 50eu for? There's people who are willing to provide a bittorrent tracker and bandwith for free, see: http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7689&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75! I'm not going to give a single cent to "Tigren", this sound like scam to me.

[monkeyman]

If I can lay hands on the ISO, I'll seed 10GB for free, no problem.

[EmDee]

If I can lay hands on the ISO, I'll seed 10GB for free, no problem.
Cool, if you do, I'll leave my computer on all night and be seeding like a madman;-)

[silvestrij]

EmDee: why do you have a naked man as an icon?
lol, I was waiting for someone to ask that question;-) I was searching images.google.com for "linus" and that picture came out on top of the page. It's supposed to be Linus, but although he's one of my personal heroes, I doubt he's got that much muscle mass... And resizing the image degraded the quality even more.. Anyway, theres not really a reason why I chose that pic, it doesn't look like me either, sadly!
I'd like to point out that the image that you 'obtained' was done by Nitrozac, and is pretty much being copied without permission. I think it was first featured in her After Y2K cartoon.
http://www.geekculture.com

(sorry, but I'm on a pretty good basis with the artists behind this, and this has been eating at me a bit since the first time I saw it)

[eadz]

Tigren was joking about the 50 euro thing, he doesn't have the iso, just was saying that becasue someone was always bugging everyone for it.

[kidsatacrux]

Arrgh! I am a pretty patient guy and normally don't whine. However, I have a brand new HTPC, hardware compliant for 2.6, and only waiting for the release so I can put the boot and image on the solid state HDD. It's cost me a boody fortune, even though I built it myself, and I am running out of Lager, cigarettes and fingernails. http://members.shaw.ca/sincnet/emote/furious.gif

Hey I have the similar hardware complications.

I suppose we're just gonna both have to wait to see when these fine men and Frauleins are ready to offer their best.

[Mr Angry]

I hope the release comes out pretty soon, I have some hungry leechers (fixing to throw away M$) to feed :roll:

[patik]

I'm wondering if this is our answer? The file name is "knoppix34-ct.iso".

http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969/
Why is this torrent going so slow? I've had it open for three or four days now, and there have always been >5 seeds and only a few leechers, though it crawls along at <5KB/s...

[resistance]

Cebit 2004 – 18.03. until 24.03.2004

[ << Previous ] [neighbors >>]
Heise Online-chat: the Schnupper-Linux Knoppix

Knoppix, that of CD-ROM booting Linuxes that does not touch existing installations, knocks periodicals of publishing house on large interest at the visitors on the Cebit-booth of the Heise. If claws Knopper Linuxes be introduces, forms banned pursue itself a large grape of spectators, that each movement of the mouse pointer on the video projection. Knopper lets no question unanswered. Sometimes these aim not at all on the technology, but rather on that how Knoppix emerged generally. "Actually have I the first CD-ROMS for me personally generates", answers it on that to the surprise of some listeners. "If I suspected had, that Knoppix once such a notice finds, would have I it probably differently named." Also today let Knoppix be only a hobby. "A hobby run totally out of the oar", adds Knopper laughing.

http://www.heise.de/bilder/45807/0/0
Knoppers presentations swipe knock at the Heise-booth on lively interest.

At the current Saturday, we invited claws Knopper in the Heise Online-chat. There it will discuss with support of the c' t-editor Peter you ring Knoppix -details. Also on the booth, the visitors can pursue the chat and can interfere into the discussion. The chat takes place from 15.30 to 16.30 clock. The chat-room is lived opened how already an hour before the organization. To this time, we fade in to the left on the homepages and the chat-side , that you lead directly into the chat.

(original page http://www.heise.de/newsticker/result.xhtml?url=/newsticker/meldung/45807&words=KNOPPIX%20Knoppix

translated via http://www.freetranslation.com/)

knoppix c't cover 4/04 http://www.heise.de/ct/shareware/cover_sw0401.pdf

[spiritwing]

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 8:02 pm
barl0w wrote:

I'm wondering if this is our answer? The file name is "knoppix34-ct.iso".

http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969/

Why is this torrent going so slow? I've had it open for three or four days now, and there have always been >5 seeds and only a few leechers, though it crawls along at <5KB/s...

Ummm....

This was the version that came with the last issue of c't. It is a 3.4 prerelease, and does not have the capability to install to the Hard Drive. The torrents are slow because they are several weeks old and everyone already has it. The answer to your question is: No, the c't version is not the answer we are waiting for.

<Twittles Thumbs waiting for official 3.4 release>

Did you know that there are an average of 23 speckels per square inch on my acoustic ceiling in my office?


=0)
Silas Bennett

[patik]

The torrents are slow because they are several weeks old and everyone already has it.
The age of the torrent has little to do with it, it's the number of seeds/leechers. With ~10 seeds and ~5 leechers, it should go pretty fast.



The answer to your question is: No, the c't version is not the answer we are waiting for.
I know, I was just curious and wanted to see it.

[kidsatacrux]

I'm new to a much anticipated LINUX distribution release

What do you suppose the probability is of when it will be conveniently available?

Not its official release date, but when it will have become sufficiently sent to enough servers that its not too difficult to dowload?

[kidsatacrux]

Also,

am I correct, that for the word "torrent"

you are refering to the initial torrent of download requests?

tor·rent (tôrÆÃnt, torÆ-), n.
1. a stream of water flowing with great rapidity and violence.
2. a rushing, violent, or abundant and unceasing stream of anything: a torrent of lava.
3. a violent downpour of rain.
4. a violent, tumultuous, or overwhelming flow: a torrent of abuse.
?adj.
5. torrential.
[1595?1605; < L torrent- (s. of torr"ns) seething, lit., burning, prp. of torr"re to burn, parch; see TORRID, -ENT]
?Syn.4.outburst, deluge, flood, spate.

[savage]

....
am I correct, that for the word "torrent"

you are refering to the initial torrent of download requests?
...
We are referring to bittorrent, a peer to peer program that can deal with a 'torrent' of downloaders very well.

[raja]

Is it possible to install knoppix on a dell powedege 700 with sata drive?
i am trying to hold of using red hat - help.
my personal preference is to use knoppix. but if I am unable to setup a webserver on knoppix on the sata drive of the poweredge 700- then their path will be set to red hat.

help

[c123]

Apparently Klaus has done a special version of Knoppix for CeBiT, just like he did a special version for the German c't magazine a couple of weeks ago. Knoppix 3.4 is likely to be available *shortly* (well CeBIT finishes in a few days).

So time to get a life again, at least for a few days ;)

Here's the source http://mailman.linuxtag.org/pipermail/debian-knoppix/2004-March/004885.html

> Is the Knoppix that Klaus is releasing at Cebit the final one? Or he is
> waiting for add kde 3.2.1?
>
> I know that is a boring question, but all the world want to know:
> _when_will_be_release_Knoppix_3.4_Download_Edition ? (tie with "What is
> the matrix?" :-) )
>

As Klaus told some days ago, the CeBiT-3.4 Edition is a special one. He
will release the 3.4-Version just after CeBiT. So just be patient.

> Thanks for all Klaus!

[monkeyman]

So time to get a life again, at least for a few days ;)
Does someone who bought a Sinclair ZX81 in kit form LAST YEAR sound like the kinda guy who has a life to start with? http://members.shaw.ca/sincnet/emote/blink.gif

[abittner]

official knoppix 3.4 from the cebit on donkey


ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.img|807281664 |5F1F3F6CB11930C305471A5368C17F75|/
ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.sub|32950272| 6D10144A93D722F6F69EA387577AA26A|/
ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.ccd|772|04909 AACF5F40C2235B9AB5BDE0EEA64|/
ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.cue|94|9763B4 01E202F6DE43CE8FDCB4AD7777|/

[c123]

coool.

only problem is I can't get to my eMule web interface as my windows box is down, and xMule on my linux box has no web interface :(

think I'll grab this when I get home, even though a 'normal 3.4' should be coming out soon :)

[probono]

great! However my aMule shows 0 sources for that file. Perhaps someone could set up a torrent?

[Lullaby]

... wo ist das .torrent Image? Wer hasst ein?

[Amsicora]

I got it!!!!
I'm here in Hannover and I visited Klaus Knopper' s presentation about Knoppix 3.4, at CeBIT, halle 5 stand 39, and i get the CeBIT Edition CD.
The new features are really interesting, but unfortunately KDE is still 3.1.5.

And now the problem: the cd simply doesn't boot in my laptop, both with kernel 2.4 or 2.6.
The previous version, 3.3, runs without any problem, I also installed it on the HD.
Anyone could help me?
Liebe Grusse und Vielen Dank!!

[tboege]

Well - it would probably be easier to get help, if more people knew the Cebit-edition.

If you want to share it, please use bittorrent. You can make use of my tracker at http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969/

[Rodriguez]

Sounds like a good deal eh Amsicora? ^^

[abittner]

amsicora share your cebit 2004 knoppix 3.4 cd iso image

thank you.

[Amsicora]

Hi people!
Of course I want to share! Sharing knowledge is inside the GNU\Linux philosopy.. That's the progress of mankind!
I'm completely new to bittorrent.. how to use it?
Wouldn't be easier to upload the .iso somewhere?
Ciao ciao! :)

[spiff1281]

http://www.google.it/search?q=make+a+torrent&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=it&btnG=Cerca+con+Google&lr=

[Rodriguez]

Get Azureus http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

Start Seeding short Version: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/doc/Azureus%20User%20Guide.htm#_Toc59981815

tboege kindly offered his tracker: http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969/
so this would probably the easy method :D


but you could also do everything on your own if you want http://azureus.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/HostAndShareYourTorrents

use Super Seeding: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/faq.php#22


@spiff1281: pointing people to google works only if they want somthing from you, not vice versa...
:wink:

[abittner]

why not sharing it on some easy p2p network like emule, edonkey, overnet and the like.

thats much easier and quicker than bt.

[Rodriguez]

Bittorent has somehow proven to be the best to spread something fast...

I, for example, cant find anything using your ed2k links :(

[hkfczrqj]

donkeys and the like are easier to setup, but given the swarm of hungry people desperate for the iso (i.e. us :) ), BT is the ideal medium for sharing. It should be waaay faster to download (no endless queues). The more people, the faster the download for everyone. That's the strength of BT.

[A. Jorge Garcia]

Is the new 3.4 bittorrent supposed to be on http://www.boegenielsen.dk:6969/ cause I just see the c't 3.4 from last month....

TIA,
AJG

[hkfczrqj]

no, not yet...

[spiritwing]

<Twittles Thubs Waiting>

Did you know there are 18 different colors of thread on my Cubicle Wall?

=0)

[Yakumo]

why not sharing it on some easy p2p network like emule, edonkey, overnet and the like.
thats much easier and quicker than bt.

since when is a client with countless config options, that forcing you to share unrelated files while you sit downloading nothing waiting in queues for hours, or DAYS on end, then getting anytihng from 0.2kps to 30kps (if your damn lucky) on your average 512k line, , and having to re route traffic to avoid isp p2p ban's easier and quicker than :

installing 1 tiny simple client that just associates itself with a filetype, and doesn't actualyl NEED any configuration usually, clicking a link, download's start immediately using 1 port of your choice, (if tracker is up but they 99% always are for new files) and go up to the max speed of your line rapidly if enough people are on.

yeah bt can have it's problems but worse than ed2k/kazaa/gnutella? rofl

[pnti]

http://business.newsforge.com/business/04/03/22/229209.shtml?tid=18&tid=2&tid=82&tid=85&tid=94

[aay]

http://business.newsforge.com/business/04/03/22/229209.shtml?tid=18&tid=2&tid=82&tid=85&tid=94

From the story:


Biggest event while I was there was Klaus Knopper's presentation of Knoppix 3.4. It was funny to see it scan all the Bluetooth cellphones within a 20-meter radius. Some guys use strange names for their devices, thinking nobody will ever find them; then their names appear on a large screen in front of about 150 people. It was so packed for the demo, nobody could push a way through the crowd.

Sounds pretty cool if you have a blue tooth phone. Heck I don't own any type of blue tooth device yet though.

[barl0w]

So, while we all wait for the torrent to be posted and I am loosing my hair waiting, I was thinking -

Why don't I send someone who knows how to do the torrent thing $30.00 US, and everyone else sends the same person $30 US, thus we pay for a trip to Germany for them to hook us all up. ;)

Or here is a better one - we have someone with a real CD Fed-Ex it to one of us, thus we save the trip, and it gets seeded correctly.

Arrgh....another day goes by.

Here's my haiku:

my CD-ROM waiting, empty
no torrent up
another hair into the wind

[Lullaby]

My preciousssssssssss......

[fmoran]

Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.img (ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.img|807281664 |5F1F3F6CB11930C305471A5368C17F75|/)
Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.sub (ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.sub|32950272| 6D10144A93D722F6F69EA387577AA26A|/)
Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.ccd (ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.ccd|772|04909 AACF5F40C2235B9AB5BDE0EEA64|/)
Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.cue (ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.cue|94|9763B4 01E202F6DE43CE8FDCB4AD7777|/)

founded in USENET without any warranty. (ED2K links)

[dragonx]

The only problem with the eDonkey / eMule links is no sources found. Either someone has to share it on emule or eDonkey. A BT link would be cool.

[hkfczrqj]

found in USENET without any warranty. (ED2K links)Guess how I felt when I found out (as everyone else has) that there are no sources for those links AFTER I posted those on USENET. :oops:

[A. Jorge Garcia]

Yup, barl0w is right. Can't someone send us a CD and we copy it to an ISO with cat?

TIA,
AJG

[fmoran]

Guess how I felt when I found out (as everyone else has) that there are no sources for those links AFTER I posted those on USENET. :oops:

ahhh tu lo posteaste en chile.comp.unix???

[hkfczrqj]

ahhh tu lo posteaste en chile.comp.unix???<lang="es_cl">
si, ese fui yo :wink: ... como hay hartos en c.c.u y c.c.pc que usan (usamos) knoppix pensé que a más de alguien le podría interesar.

Pero bueno, hay que seguir esperando...
</lang>

[Ironwalker]

Guess the 24th (today) is a no go for 3.4. :roll:

[monkeyman]

Best avatar evar! 8)

[ghgeiger]

Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.img (ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.img|807281664 |5F1F3F6CB11930C305471A5368C17F75|/)
Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.sub (ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.sub|32950272| 6D10144A93D722F6F69EA387577AA26A|/)
Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.ccd (ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.ccd|772|04909 AACF5F40C2235B9AB5BDE0EEA64|/)
Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.cue (ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.cue|94|9763B4 01E202F6DE43CE8FDCB4AD7777|/)

founded in USENET without any warranty. (ED2K links)

It appears that Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.sub (ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.Cebit.2004.Edition.sub|32950272| 6D10144A93D722F6F69EA387577AA26A|/) has appeared on emule, hopefully the rest will follow shortly.

[reub2000]

Why CloneCD? Is there any way to burn those files in linux?

[Markus]

I almost jumped from my chair when I saw the cebit version on distrowatch, but seems they made a slight typo
http://www.distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=knoppix

EDIT: Getting a slight feeling of deja vu here.
Someone probably posted it before... :D

[Lullaby]

Hey deutsche boys! Was passiert?
CeBit is over and no one has created a .torrent file!

Jolines. Qué cruz...

[abittner]

the real knoppix 3.4 from the heise booth at cebit 2004

ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.vom.Heise.Stand.CeBit.2004.iso|7 02939136|8A804B0EC43E5CF16343B263F6C1E272|/
ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.vom.Heise.Stand.CeBit.2004.iso.m d5|77|26E7FE6552B5FE565D575196EEF48069|/

[RealNitro]

Hey Dutch boys! Was passiert?
CeBit is over and no one has created a .torrent file!

Jolines. Qué cruz...
That would be German boys. Dutch boys live in the Netherlands.

[probono]

the real knoppix 3.4 from the heise booth at cebit 2004

ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.vom.Heise.Stand.CeBit.2004.iso|7 02939136|8A804B0EC43E5CF16343B263F6C1E272|/
ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.vom.Heise.Stand.CeBit.2004.iso.m d5|77|26E7FE6552B5FE565D575196EEF48069|/

Same problem, 0 sources. Bittorrent rockzzz compared to ed2k...

[c123]

Hey Dutch boys! Was passiert?
CeBit is over and no one has created a .torrent file!

Jolines. Qué cruz...
That would be German boys. Dutch boys live in the Netherlands.

And the Netherlands have coffee shops, useful for chilling out if the stress/angst of waiting for the new Knoppix gets too much ;)
[[ IIRC the German Bundesverfassungsgericht decreed that personal posession is legal, but coffee shops are not... ]]

OK, that's enough conneries, back to work :)

[reub2000]

the real knoppix 3.4 from the heise booth at cebit 2004

ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.vom.Heise.Stand.CeBit.2004.iso|7 02939136|8A804B0EC43E5CF16343B263F6C1E272|/
ed2k://|file|Knoppix.3.4.vom.Heise.Stand.CeBit.2004.iso.m d5|77|26E7FE6552B5FE565D575196EEF48069|/

xMule doesn't like the link.

[MaynardK]

Just curious when people think 3.4 will be available on any of the FTP mirrors.

[Ironwalker]

Yep...ima wait for the 3.4 official to be released on the official mirrors.

[Fabianx]

Yep...ima wait for the 3.4 official to be released on the official mirrors.

I've talked to Klaus on CeBit and 3.4 will just be available in two weeks.

But for waiting another time, I'll try to get again some pending patches into Knoppix ...

... and even fix an critical bug in the installer ... :-(

cu

Fabian

[Aleu]

I've talked to Klaus on CeBit and 3.4 will just be available in two weeks.

Two weeks from when, now? I cannot wait so long!!! :cry:

[Lullaby]

http://80.38.157.198/ftp/pub/Knoppix_34_ct.iso

Volunteers for creatin' a .torrent?

[abittner]

if you dont like the hassle with torrents, why dont u just put it up on edonkey/emule so it gets spread quicker than simply http.

thanks.

[probono]

Is this one really from cebit?

It says

KNOPPIX V 3.4 http://www.knoppix.de/ c't Edition 4/04

which looks like the c't one that is floating around since over 4 weeks...

[abittner]

Is this one really from cebit?

It says

KNOPPIX V 3.4 http://www.knoppix.de/ c't Edition 4/04

which looks like the c't one that is floating around since over 4 weeks...


where do you read that string? did u download his file from his http server? why dont u just start that knoppix and check for the c't logo and stuff?

any real information here?

[abittner]

i agree - that looks like the old c't 3.4 knoppix....

that file he has on his webserver is exactly the same size as the old knoppix 3.4 c't edition below

ed2k://|file|KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-01-22-DE.iso|719181824|658F08CB71B760B18BAE86D6011D481C|/

[probono]

where do you read that string? did u download his file from his http server? why dont u just start that knoppix and check for the c't logo and stuff?

I'm sitting on a 56k modem right now :( I've downloaded 200k and opened them with kwrite...

[abittner]

yeah dont bother, his filename even says ct in the name. thats the old one.

what a pitty

[monkeyman]

Man......... :roll:

[Mr Angry]

still no go, huh :roll:

pd: hay hartos chilenos :shock:

[paradocs]

Hi all,

Some pictures to look at while you wait.
There is an e-bay link for a hand signed copy.

http://www.linuxtag.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=offtopic;action=display;num=10798887 50

Best Wishes
paradocs

[Mr Angry]

that is a real teaser, too bad the auction is not here in the US :(

[aay]

Yep...ima wait for the 3.4 official to be released on the official mirrors.

I've talked to Klaus on CeBit and 3.4 will just be available in two weeks.

But for waiting another time, I'll try to get again some pending patches into Knoppix ...

... and even fix an critical bug in the installer ... :-(

cu

Fabian

Sounds good Fabian. Fixes and patches should make it worth waiting for. BTW, I know Klaus doesn't really want to focus on Knoppix as an installable distro, but since he is including your installer, why not put a link to it in the Knoppix KDE menu. Newbies ask about this alot in the forums and in irc and even though they should RTFM and find out about /usr/sbin/knoppix-installer this could save them from asking about this (and save some of us from having to answer it).

Thanks for all the hard work in Knoppix.

Adam

[eadz]

www.iso-top.info are selling Knoppix 3.4 with kde 3.2.1 , the cebit edition for 5 euro.

[kidsatacrux]

Free Knoppix 3.4 CD & Tux sticker
Write a review of your favorite linux distro at
linux.editme.com
and receive a free Knoppix 3.4 CD.

linux.editme.com

[probono]

www.iso-top.info are selling Knoppix 3.4 with kde 3.2.1 , the cebit edition for 5 euro.
Is that the official CeBit Version or a remaster? Does CeBit Edition include 3.2.1?

[Fabianx]

www.iso-top.info are selling Knoppix 3.4 with kde 3.2.1 , the cebit edition for 5 euro.
Is that the official CeBit Version or a remaster? Does CeBit Edition include 3.2.1?

No, CeBit Edition does not include KDE 3.2.1, but this remaster - which is legal - does.

So if you can buy it. I think its a good idea.

cu

Fabian

[robwelch100]

It says a lot about the popularity of the Knoppix distro that so many people are so eager to got their hands on v. 3.4. I have it the C't edition and will wait untill the final is released before messing with 3.4. I would recomend the same to most of the people chomping at the bit to get it. I think we all know it will be worth the wait. Even though it is taking longer than we expected.

Many thanks to those out there that are working to make the distro even better. I have stopped downloading all the others. Knoppix is the distro for me. Knoppix...... pass it on.

[ykhov]

I love google.
Do a search for:
knoppix 3.4 filetype:iso

[colin stewart]

It says a lot about the popularity of the Knoppix distro that so many people are so eager to got their hands on v. 3.4. I have it the C't edition and will wait untill the final is released before messing with 3.4. I would recomend the same to most of the people chomping at the bit to get it. I think we all know it will be worth the wait. Even though it is taking longer than we expected.

Am I wasting my time learing to install 3.3 right now? Better to put it on hold for a month or two?

[Durand Hicks]

I wouldn't say it's a waste installing 3.3 now. You can upgrade all of the packages to current levels or beyond anyway. The kernel can also be downloaded and installed via apt-get. So, it's not a waste.

[colin stewart]

I wouldn't say it's a waste installing 3.3 now. You can upgrade all of the packages to current levels or beyond anyway. The kernel can also be downloaded and installed via apt-get. So, it's not a waste.

OK, thanks, I may be a linux n00b, but I have been stung before by putting a lot of effort into something, only to find the next upgrade breaks lots of things and the effort gets wasted, with a quick "sorry for any inconvenience", which hardly covers what I am thinking at that point! :wink: :roll:

I've seen it suggeted elsewhere that the author isn't exactly bothered about what happens to folks who go for HD versions, since that isn't his philosophy. I felt it wise to be cautious in that case.

[agent_smith]

Hello fellas:

Does anyone of you realize the first post on this thread was posted

Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:57 am :shock:

I realize it is too much to ask to keep a deadline or something, but with CeBIT now over, can we get A ROUGH estimate of when we can expect version 3.4?

I am a huge fan, and cannot wait to lay my hands on the 3.4. So, can anyone quote an approximate date?

Best regards,
Agent SMITH

p.s. I am so eager to get it, I am actually considering to release Neo for a sequel once I have it. ;)

[hkfczrqj]

[Self-censorship/edit, for the sake of a good 3.4, as requested by Fabianx]

Cheers

[Fabianx]

I guess that's a remaster of the Cebit Knoppix. So, if you are impatient, this might make you happy.


I know that you are impatient, but this was not meant as a real release for the whole public, but just for KDE Developers who want to test CVS. Please: If you make too much traffic, I'll take the download down.

Sorry for that, but I don't want to hear: Knoppix is bad, crashes, etc., because this is a DEVELOPER TEST!

cu

Fabian

PS: So you have it in your hands. If it gets too much publicity, I'll take it down!
PPS: Please edit your posts to get the attention down again.

[hkfczrqj]

Sorry for that, but I don't want to hear: Knoppix is bad, crashes, etc., because this is a DEVELOPER TEST!

Well, the quick peek to KDE 3.2 was worth the d'load. Anyway, no noticeable bug/crash so far...

EDIT: maybe I'm not looking deep enough. *sigh* If it's named "CVS" I take for granted that this version can be (and it IS) broken.


PS: So you have it in your hands. If it gets too much publicity, I'll take it down!
PPS: Please edit your posts to get the attention down again.
I edited my post. But there is a whole THREAD devoted to this test version. So it wll get the attention anyway, and a warning should be posted. The net is a very small place ;)

[zenok]

delete

[colin stewart]

[quote=hkfczrqj]Sorry for that, but I don't want to hear: Knoppix is bad, crashes, etc., because this is a DEVELOPER TEST!

cu

Fabian


Hmmm.. Sadly, I've just got to the point where I had to make a decision and I just said "knoppix is going to end up being here too late", so I just had to install XP again for now :(

However I'll keep using knoppix from CD from time to time as it's the best way I know of for keeping a watchful eye on linux's development and for monitoring how close it 's got to being finished enough that an ordinary end user could regard it as a viable alternative to other OSes. The sooner, the better, in my view, but it's clearly going to be worth the wait eventually! :lol:

When there's a linux with a working HD install for desktop and home server versions, then I'll trial it on the domestic hardware of the day again, and if it works, then it stays. I say that with any OS. I'd not be very surprised if that installer involved a knoppix cd or a close relative! :wink:

[ripcrd]

Hmmm.. Sadly, I've just got to the point where I had to make a decision and I just said "knoppix is going to end up being here too late", so I just had to install XP again for now :(

However I'll keep using knoppix from CD from time to time as it's the best way I know of for keeping a watchful eye on linux's development and for monitoring how close it 's got to being finished enough that an ordinary end user could regard it as a viable alternative to other OSes. The sooner, the better, in my view, but it's clearly going to be worth the wait eventually! :lol:

When there's a linux with a working HD install for desktop and home server versions, then I'll trial it on the domestic hardware of the day again, and if it works, then it stays. I say that with any OS. I'd not be very surprised if that installer involved a knoppix cd or a close relative! :wink:

Dude, I don't understand you. When Linux is usable?!? Ever hear of RedHat, Mandrake, Suse, Slackware, Gentoo, Debian? All are quite usable on both desktop or server. I've been using them since 98. I've used all but Gentoo at one time or another. It's even easy to switch. Just keep your personal files on a separate /home partition. Knoppix is actually quite usable in its current state. I've had no problems. Jump in man, the water is fine. If you need help, search for a Linux User Group in your area.
*shakes head*

[oscar]

Serial mouse doesnt work with knoppix_kde-cvs.iso kernel26 option.
Serial mouse is not detected in this version
No one knoppix 3.4 based distro has support for serial mouse with kernel26 option
Nevertheless serial mouse is working fine with kernel24 option.

:?

[sikah2000]

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN.

I couldn't start a topic so I will write it as a reply.

So the point is: on 20-24 apr 2004 there will be CERF (Computers AND electronics Romanian Fair) where "la creme de la creme" will be. I was wondering if Knoppix Staff would want to be there. I would like to see KNOPPIX there. :wink: (and so would many of my friends).

I work at Romania Data Systems (internet provider - the biggest in Romania, voip provider, cable operator - also the biggest in Romania). Maybe if you can't come you would be interested in a collaboration with us... (I haven't discussed it with the marketing department nor with the management but I will as soon as I hear a positive answer from you... or I can put you in contact with them so you can discuss every detail.)

Just for your information (and other suspicios person's info) I am not looking to earn something from this, just to see knoppix here and to let more people know what it is capable of. :!:

CU Here.

Alexandru Lazarescu

[colin stewart]

Hmmm.. Sadly, I've just got to the point where I had to make a decision and I just said "knoppix is going to end up being here too late", so I just had to install XP again for now :(

However I'll keep using knoppix from CD from time to time as it's the best way I know of for keeping a watchful eye on linux's development and for monitoring how close it 's got to being finished enough that an ordinary end user could regard it as a viable alternative to other OSes. The sooner, the better, in my view, but it's clearly going to be worth the wait eventually! :lol:

When there's a linux with a working HD install for desktop and home server versions, then I'll trial it on the domestic hardware of the day again, and if it works, then it stays. I say that with any OS. I'd not be very surprised if that installer involved a knoppix cd or a close relative! :wink:

Dude, I don't understand you. When Linux is usable?!? Ever hear of RedHat, Mandrake, Suse, Slackware, Gentoo, Debian? All are quite usable on both desktop or server. I've been using them since 98. I've used all but Gentoo at one time or another. It's even easy to switch. Just keep your personal files on a separate /home partition. Knoppix is actually quite usable in its current state. I've had no problems. Jump in man, the water is fine. If you need help, search for a Linux User Group in your area.
*shakes head*

Although you quoted my message, I'm not certain it's my message you're replying to. Wrong quote button or something perhaps? :?

[Fabianx]

[quote="ripcrd"][quote=colin stewart]
[ ... mega quote deleted ... ]
Although you quoted my message, I'm not certain it's my message you're replying to. Wrong quote button or something perhaps? :?

No, he meant you ;-).

He just interpreted your message :-).

Well, while you are at installing XP, leave some free space for linux. It'll make the install of any distribution easier ... :-)

Its best to do dual-boot first and then you can switch step-by-step to linux ... :-)

I did it also that way ...

... and I never did never regret it ... :-)

cu

Fabian

[Snow]

So is there a date we can expect 3.4 to be out at the regular news stands.

I had to get the mother board replaced on my old PC and now none of the Knoppix releaes see my eithernet card. They see everything else though. Lindows sees the ether card and runs ok. I hope Knoppix with K2.6 detects my ether card because I want to put it back on my harddrives. Currently I am stuck with WinXP and Lindows with this new Hardware and I would like to have Knoppix back.

[paradocs]

Hi Snow,

The answer is always 2 weeks :?

In the mean time you might look at kanotix.de
The new version is bh4.
There is good support on irc.freenode.net #kanotix
This in not pure KNOPPIX but
he keeps true to KNOPPIX but adds
updates and hard ware detection.
I hope this gets you back to knoppix.

Best Wishes
paradocs

[Discerner0]

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When there's a linux with a working HD install for desktop and home server versions, then I'll trial it on the domestic hardware of the day again, and if it works, then it stays. I say that with any OS. I'd not be very surprised if that installer involved a knoppix cd or a close relative! :wink:

I've installed Mandrake 8.2, then 9.2, for a dual-boot system on three different computers that already had Windows on them, with no trouble at all. And I barely have a clue what I'm doing. The only part that I can see that might be tricky for someone who doesn't know what he's doing is partitioning the hard drive in preparation. Of course, if you don't want two OSs on the computer even that's not a problem. The Mandrake installation program default choices work perfectly well for a beginner. Just pop the first CD in and follow the prompts.

[zavec]

I've installed Win2k on my primary hdd (120GB) and Knoppix 3.3 on my slave hdd (120GB) with Lilo boot option when my pc starts.

Was no trouble at all and works fine. I did this by myself and with barely a clue what I was doing.


Just pop the first CD in and follow the prompts. Yerp twas that ez.

:D

[Snow]

Thanks paradocs, I am torrenting it now. But I do wish it were Knoppix3.4 instead. And from a regular mirror.

But where this one is concerned. Is there a regular mirror that I can get this from. I have found one ISO but it is a script not a regular downloadable ISO. If you have a url that would take me directly to a dowload mirror it would be great. I will do a google on this distro in the mean time. THanks for any help. :D

[Fabianx]

[quote="Snow"]Thanks paradocs, I am torrenting it now. But I do wish it were Knoppix3.4 instead. And from a regular mirror.

But where this one is concerned. Is there a regular mirror that II can get this from. I have found one ISO but it is a script not a regular downloadable ISO. If you have a url that would take me directly to a dowload mirror it would be great. I will do a google on this distro in the mean time. THanks for any help.

debian.tu-bs.de/knoppix/kanotix/

or:

debian.tu-bs.de/kanotix/

cu

Fabian

[Snow]

[quote=Snow]Thanks paradocs, I am torrenting it now. But I do wish it were Knoppix3.4 instead. And from a regular mirror.

But where this one is concerned. Is there a regular mirror that II can get this from. I have found one ISO but it is a script not a regular downloadable ISO. If you have a url that would take me directly to a dowload mirror it would be great. I will do a google on this distro in the mean time. THanks for any help.

debian.tu-bs.de/knoppix/kanotix/

or:

debian.tu-bs.de/kanotix/

cu

Fabian

Thanks but here again these come across as text files on my PC and I have no clue how to use them.

I would need something that is downloadable as though it were from a regular mirror. I still have almost 30 hours left on the torrent and I am sure that I could do a mirror in a much shorter time.

[ah]

um as far as i can tell all you have to do is right click, save as to the links and save them as isos. if you just click the links they will load in your browser as text like you have done. if the text has already loaded completely save the page text as an iso and that will work too.

[Snow]

um as far as i can tell all you have to do is right click, save as to the links and save them as isos. if you just click the links they will load in your browser as text like you have done. if the text has already loaded completely save the page text as an iso and that will work too.

Ok. Didnt know that. Downloading it now hope it comes out. Thanks.

[ripcrd]

http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20040329/index.html

Decent article for the guys/gals looking to switch.

[Markus]

http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20040329/index.html

Decent article for the guys/gals looking to switch.

Wonder what SUSE will think about them saying that it has to be bought :D
OTOH they might not feel that the free version that has to be installed via ftp is for newbies?

[agent_smith]

[quote]
-=EDIT=-
Sorry for that, but I don't want to hear: Knoppix is bad, crashes, etc., because this is a DEVELOPER TEST!
-=EDIT=-
Fabian


Fabian:

Sorry, but the CVS issue somehow shifted the thread away from my question, so (risking to sound nagging and stuff) I'd like to ask again:

How soon IS INDEED "soon"? Do we get an approximate release date :?:

Best regards,
Smith

[Fabianx]

[quote]
-=EDIT=-
Sorry for that, but I don't want to hear: Knoppix is bad, crashes, etc., because this is a DEVELOPER TEST!
-=EDIT=-
Fabian


Fabian:

Sorry, but the CVS issue somehow shifted the thread away from my question, so (risking to sound nagging and stuff) I'd like to ask again:

How soon IS INDEED "soon"? Do we get an approximate release date :?:

Best regards,
Smith

I _today_ heard something about next week.

cu

Fabian

[zentu]

Well, it will always be 2 weeks or next week...

Does anyone else feel like the kid in the candy store, and all the store has is candies you don't like or the generic brands of the ones you do...

[OErjan]

yup and even one better; me having no money to buy candy :-(

[Fabianx]

Well, it will always be 2 weeks or next week...

Does anyone else feel like the kid in the candy store, and all the store has is candies you don't like or the generic brands of the ones you do...

No,

the guy who said "two weeks" initially didn't knew that CeBit has to be before it can be published ...

Ok, CeBit was now and after CeBit before one week I said "in two weeks".

Now I say: One week ...

Hm, do you notice something ;-) ?

cu

Fabian

PS: Yes, it will be available soon. I have seen that there is a non-public pre-version. So It think it might be that there need to be some tests, bugfixes, features before the D/L for all is done.

[Sivananda]

Well, it will always be 2 weeks or next week...

Y'all DO know that "two weeks", at least here in the US, is standard business-speak for "we have no clue, but longer than we're willing to admit" I hope... :lol: :lol: :lol:

btw Knoppix: what a FANTASTIC piece of work. Three cheers for Klaus and open source!!!