Re: knx hd install is not just debian
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If I have learned anything through all of this, I have learned "you just dont do THAT!" - and "that" being an apt-get upgrade, or an apt-get dist-upgrade ...
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I've pretty much been the same route & come to the same conclusion ie upgrade applications but DONT attempt to upgrade system.
Blasphemy! This is to me the most disagreeable part about a Knoppix hdd installation. In this scenario there's no choice but to agree with the folks in #debian - Knoppix ain't Debian if you can't do a dist-upgrade. The packaging system is the foundation of Debian but if it doesn't work why use it?
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I've also questioned why would anybody want to upgrade system? There doesn't seem to be any improvement in anything after upgrade.
Please browse the latest Debian weekly news and you'll soon see that security is a primary reason. Others reasons would be bugfixes and new features.
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Knoppix may take a bit more initial customizing but maintaining is easy.
Sorry but this is contradictory. 'It's easy to maintain as long as you don't do an upgrade". Point #2 for the rude people in #debian. You can no longer rely on the Debian manual or at least not the dpkg/apt manuals. Please read this article about Debian turning 10. If I may a few quotes from Ian Murdock the founder of Debian GNU Linux:
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5) Debian will contain a menu system that WORKS... menu-driven
package installation and upgrading utility, menu-driven system setup, menu-driven help system, and menu-driven system administration.
7) Debian will be extensively documented (more than just a few READMEs).
In my eyes the only acceptable (as in marginally) solution would be a sure-fire step-by-step solution to making your Knoppix hdd install upgradable as it should be. If this needs to be rewritten for each release then that's really going to be a PITA.
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OK, I've not tried to do a kernel rebuild. What/why the 'unless you've done a knoppix installation'?
Perhaps things have changed in the year or more since I've booted a Knoppix disc but at that time it was nigh impossible to build your own kernel without including all of the Knoppix patches. Again this is not correct. You should be able to get a Debian kernel or build your own from kernel.org with no patches other than what's required to support your particular hardware not because your system won't function without them.
That said, you'd never find me lurking in #debian either. ;)