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right on it worked, thank you. I'm just learning linux and i didn't find lxde too flexible

and for creatin the file in sysconfg, do i just right click and new file?

That endless loop thing, would that be like starting it up and having it say initiating start up over and over again?

it is hd installl and i pretty sure cheat codes wont work then

installed to HD and would like to use kde.