ISO boot from FAT/NTFS/USB (GRUB.exe, grldr from boot.ini)

[ruymbeke]

...I have used all of the files from usb_dgle6.zip, and then updated them with kno402u.zip...

The file usb_dgle6.zip already includes everything for knoppix 4.02, update are only required for knoppix 5.
It looks like that the linuxrc boot script cannot find the iso file image.
If you boot knoppix of the cd/dvd with your usb dongle attached,
what device /dev/?d? is used by knoppix for your usb dongle ?
You may modify the file menu.lst to match the device used to locate the iso.
Be aware that grub is case sensitive. So KNOPPIX.ISO cannot be found with /*.iso.
Good luck,
Gilles

[zuubah]

I think part of my problem is in my menu.lst file.
Can someone tell me how I determine what my USB device is labelled as?
I.E. HD0,0 or sda1 or etc.

I have tried to use grub to identify it, while booting from CD, as is suggested somewhere (using the find command in grub).
But it doesn't find anything.

Is there a better way?

Thanks!

~Z

[zuubah]

I think I jumped the gun on posting, as I didn't see your post above mine first.

My device is identified as sda1 when I boot from CD.

As for the /*.iso, should I modify that line to match my .iso file exactly?

Thanks again,

~Z

[ruymbeke]

I think I jumped the gun on posting, as I didn't see your post above mine first.
My device is identified as sda1 when I boot from CD.
As for the /*.iso, should I modify that line to match my .iso file exactly?
Thanks again,
~Z

Grub uses the (hdx,y) syntax to load the kernel and ramdisk, (since the linux kernel is not loaded yet)
and the find command helps to locate the files. But once grub successfully load the kernel and ramdisk
it will be a good idea to give the linux kernel (which is running now) the correct path for the iso file using
the /dev/xdx/.../*.iso syntax and be very careful about the casing of the path.
Hpe this helps,
Gilles

[bingyang]

... start booting Linux, but when come to Start cardmgr... it stops responding.
is that mean my Laptop hardware is not compatable with Knoppix?

No, there are other cheatcode that you could add to the kernel command line in the menu.lst, like noapic or nolapic, ...
Have a look at the knoppix help/documentation or the text file cheatcodes.txt within the knoppix directory of the iso.
Your laptop may need one of these cheatcodes to work properly.

I'm trying to boot from NTFS of HDD, not usb, but I noticed that the file in kno500 is minirt_usb.gz, if there is a version of minirt_ntfs.gz for V5.0 to boot from NTFS?

The file you are referring to is not called minirt_usb.gz but minirt_usb5.gz, and works for both usb and ntfs boots.
Good luck,
Gilles

Thanks Gilles,
I'll have a go again.
Bingyang

[bingyang]

thanks to Gilles!

as I downloaded both 4.02 and 5.0 DVD. I boot 4.02 dvd iso using kno500 by accident.
though it prompts some lib errors, but it booted the system and I can access all my partitions. all applications seems OK.
but when I click shell terminal, it opens the window but no shell characters prompts(only cursor), I cannot type in commands.

when I boot Knoppix, it cannot find the iso at hda1, but find at hdc1 and boot from hdc1.
now I changed hda1 to hdc1, both 4.02 and 5.0 iso can start booting the system as brfore, no errers prompts, but stop at cardmgr...
it seems still my laptop problem (MACRON PW70 17" BTO Centrino Pentium M with 2GB RAM and 120GB HDD)

I don't know where should I use those contents in cheatcodes.txt
any help/hints are appriciated
Bingyang

[ruymbeke]

...I don't know where should I use those contents in cheatcodes.txt...

First thing, do you have the same problem when booting from the cd ?
If yes, your problem has nothing to do with the (ntfs) iso boot.
Then, did you try the "noapic" and/or "nolapic" kernel cheatcodes as I proposed previously ?
Then you should read the forum for people having similar problems.
Hope this helps,
Gilles

[bingyang]

Thank you Gilles!
I tried boot from DVD, it has the same problem, I also tried as your advised.
it seems my laptop cannot use Knoppix, I have to give up. I'll try to install some
other distribution packages, not sure which one is better.

you are so kind, thank you very much again for all your help.
Bingyang

[sooner]

I have successfully boot the Knoppix 5.0 En DVD Edition from .iso file on the hardisk. Very interesting to have a look on Linux environment without repartioning.

Here's all I downloaded and got it to work
http://rapidshare.de/files/21240698/...mbeke.rar.html

At the first and second time, the grub did not boot successfully. Then I remembered... grub loader is primarily designed for booting Linux, it may not read files with compression property! (which saves disk sapce). Then I removed that compression property off the folder BOOT and other two system files. At the third time, Knoppix was booted like a charm, very fast and beautiful. Anyway, the multimedia did not work well, the sound was very small and unclear


Thank Gilles for your excellence work.
Hope to see your next versions

[ruymbeke]

Hello,
Please find below the link to the boot ramdisk allowing to boot the Knoppix 5.0.1 CD/DVD ISO from the hdd:
http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/minirt_usb6.gz
Besides some bug fixes, it also includes the ntfs, reiser, auto search, and static/dynamic hostname add-on features.
Have fun with Knoppix 5.0.1 (Thank you Klaus for this new release) and please give me some feedback !
Cheers,
Gilles

BTW, the ext2 persistent home bug (ext2 partitions not recognized properly
because of a typo in the knoppix-autoconfig file) is still not fixed in 5.01.
But I have it patched (at run time using unionfs) in my minirt_usb6.gz.
(same trick as used for hostname, cf: http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtop...?p=96888#96888 )

FYI: The typo in the knoppix-autoconfig file: (ext3|ext3... --> ext2|ext3...)
wrong: ext3|ext3|reiserfs|xfs) MOUNTOPTS="$MOUNTOPTS,noatime" ;;
correct: ext2|ext3|reiserfs|xfs) MOUNTOPTS="$MOUNTOPTS,noatime" ;;
Please find a diff in here: http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/...utoconfig.diff

As a recall, the custom (fixed or dynamic) hostname syntax is:
"hostname=mycustomname" or
"hostname=auto-clock" (date+time) or
"hostname=auto-mac" (eth0 mac address)