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    Re: ISO boot from FAT/NTFS/USB (GRUB.exe, grldr from boot.in

    hi to all
    I wonder if there is a minirt.gz for knoppix version 6?

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    Re: VmWare Workstation 651/player 251 (126130) + Knoppix 531

    VmWare Workstation Player 2.5.1 (build 126130) virtual machine:
    Although I've updated the cdrom image path to the German version
    of Knoppix 5.3.1 iso file (KNOPPIX_V5.3.1DVD-2008-03-26-DE.iso),
    language and keyboard aren't configured for German.
    I'm a beginner with linux - can anybody describe, how I can
    switch to German?

    thanks, dlchnr

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    Re: VmWare Workstation 651/player 251 (126130) + Knoppix 531

    Quote Originally Posted by dlchnr
    VmWare Workstation Player 2.5.1 (build 126130) virtual machine:
    Although I've updated the cdrom image path to the German version
    of Knoppix 5.3.1 iso file (KNOPPIX_V5.3.1DVD-2008-03-26-DE.iso),
    language and keyboard aren't configured for German.
    I'm a beginner with linux - can anybody describe, how I can
    switch to German? thanks, dlchnr
    Hello dlchnr,
    Switching the DVD will not help since the DVD content is the same with the exception of the kernel boot cheatcodes.
    The VM + VmPlayer (and workstation) are using the kernel cheatcodes defined by grub (/mnt/hda1/menu.lst file).
    So I recommend you change the parameter "lang=us" by "lang=de" in that menu.lst file to make it permanent.
    You may need to make hda1 writable first. (right click on the hda1 icon). Now since grub is used as the bootloader,
    you could also temporary edit the kernel boot parameters once in the grub menu (type "e" then again "e", arrows, ...).
    Please note that you also have a flag (on the left of the clock) defining the keyboard language in use for newly started apps.
    You could switch your keyboard that way but that will not change the system menus.
    So the Kernel cheatcode update as described above is the clean way to solve this.
    Please let me know if that works for you.
    Hop this helps,
    Gilles

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    Re: ISO boot from FAT/NTFS/USB (GRUB.exe, grldr from boot.in

    Quote Originally Posted by fedemos
    hi to all
    I wonder if there is a minirt.gz for knoppix version 6?
    Hello fedemos,
    6 is a public beta release, which means that Klaus is still heavily working on it.
    So I would much prefer wait for the final release so I won't have to do the work twice,
    or if Klaus is interested in using my patch, I could probably (if time permits)
    offer my help in writing a proposal for that section.
    Best Regards,
    Gilles

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    Re: VmWare Workstation 651/player 251 (126130) + Knoppix 531

    Hello dlchnr,
    Switching the DVD will not help since the DVD content is the same with the exception of the kernel boot cheatcodes.
    The VM + VmPlayer (and workstation) are using the kernel cheatcodes defined by grub (/mnt/hda1/menu.lst file).
    So I recommend you change the parameter "lang=us" by "lang=de" in that menu.lst file to make it permanent.
    You may need to make hda1 writable first. (right click on the hda1 icon). Now since grub is used as the bootloader,
    you could also temporary edit the kernel boot parameters once in the grub menu (type "e" then again "e", arrows, ...).
    Please note that you also have a flag (on the left of the clock) defining the keyboard language in use for newly started apps.
    You could switch your keyboard that way but that will not change the system menus.
    So the Kernel cheatcode update as described above is the clean way to solve this.
    Please let me know if that works for you.
    Hop this helps,
    Gilles
    hello ruymbeke,

    I've found the solution with "lang=de" in menu.lst file - but the language wasn't the big problem -
    the main problem is, having a german keyboard without having a german keyboard layout!
    I've copied the german.kbd file to /mnt/hda1, but adding
    KBDMAP german.kbd
    to menu.lst or knoppix.sh files does'nt invoke german keyboard layout -
    can you tell me, where I've add this line?
    thx, dlchnr

  6. #586

    Re: VmWare Workstation 651/player 251 (126130) + Knoppix 531

    I've copied the german.kbd file to /mnt/hda1, but adding
    KBDMAP german.kbd
    to menu.lst or knoppix.sh files does'nt invoke german keyboard layout -
    can you tell me, where I've add this line?
    Oh - while first try with the suggested "flag" failed,
    (I got for example on us-key '/' instead of de-key '-' a '!'),
    seems second try to work (don't know, what I've done wrong).

    So I can go to my next point - access to my host's disk.
    Any hints are welcome (access via shared folder or
    via network drive?).

    thx again, bye dlchnr

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    Re: VmWare Workstation 651/player 251 (126130) + Knoppix 531

    So I can go to my next point - access to my host's disk.
    Any hints are welcome (access via shared folder or
    via network drive?).
    I've had no success with the Shared Folders - I suppose,
    I would have to create a User "knoppix" on my XP-System?

    But this seems to work:
    1. Creating a diretory "H" (for host) in /home/knoppix
    2. Mounting the XP-System's disk C with:
    mount -t smbfs -o username=<WindowsUsername>,password=<WindowsPasswo rd> //<WindowsComputername>/C /home/knoppix/H
    or without placeholder for my system:
    mount -t smbfs -o username=dlchnr,password=rnhcld,-) //Inspiron/C /home/knoppix/H

    Is this practice consistent with linux's philosophy or should I mount disk C at an other place?
    Or are there any pitfalls?

    I wonder, the directory /home/knoppix/H is still present after rebooting the knoppix system -
    where is the information about directory "H" stored?
    It couldn't be stored in the ISO, and I can't it find on hda1 (hda.vmdk) or hdb1 (hdb.vmdk)!

    Futher hints are still estimated!

    thx, dlchnr

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    Re: Knoppix 5.3.1 ISO boot (with "ntfs_rw" cheatco

    Quote Originally Posted by ruymbeke
    Hello,
    Please find below the link to my first shoot at an updated Knoppix 5.3.1 minirt supporting ISO boot from ntfs, fat, ext, reiser,...
    http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/knx531.zip (Md5: 5516434f6c74b3fd3f7cb941de6edd47 *knx531.zip )
    For your convenience, the zip file includes: grldr, grub.exe, menu.lst, linux (kernel) and minirt_531.gz.
    Please note that as requested by John Woods, I also included the "ntfs_rw" kernel cheatcode
    (besides all the previously added cheatcodes as hostname=[mycustomname|auto-clock|auto-mac], ...)
    FYI, this is the grub menu.lst config file I used:

    Code:
    title Knoppix 5.3.1 from sda1 ISO
    	kernel (hd0,0)/boot/knoppix.531/linux ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init bootfrom=/dev/hda1/boot/knoppix.531/*.iso vga=791 noprompt apm=power-off nomce quiet lang=us dma screen=1024x768 hostname=knx531 highres=off loglevel=0 libata.atapi_enabled=1 SELINUX_INIT=NO nmi_watchdog=0 ntfs_rw
    	initrd (hd0,0)/boot/knoppix.531/minirt_531.gz
    	boot
    Have fun and please provide some feedback !
    Best Regards,
    Gilles

    PS: It looks like that the VmWare Tools 6.0.3 (build 80004) do not install properly on the Knoppix 5.3.1 kernel 2.6.24.4 (help would be apreciated)
    Man!! Thanks a million. I had not been able to get 5.3.1 to boot without using knoppix testdvd cheatcode which took right at 30 minutes to boot. With the zip file you shared I was able to boot the iso right away . I just had to add the menu.lst entry to my current grub menu.lst and edit the file path to where my iso is and zoom here it is.

    One of the things I love about knoppix is that it mounts all the HDs by /dev/sda1,2, etc. by default where ubuntu mounts them as /media/disk ,media/disk-1 and so forth by default. It makes it less confusing to know exactly which drive your dealling with in the terminal. I love some of the new feautures in 5.3.1 and can't wait to learn more about it. Thanks again.

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    Re: ISO boot from FAT/NTFS/USB (GRUB.exe, grldr from boot.in

    Quote Originally Posted by ruymbeke
    Quote Originally Posted by fedemos
    hi to all
    I wonder if there is a minirt.gz for knoppix version 6?
    Hello fedemos,
    6 is a public beta release, which means that Klaus is still heavily working on it.
    So I would much prefer wait for the final release so I won't have to do the work twice,
    or if Klaus is interested in using my patch, I could probably (if time permits)
    offer my help in writing a proposal for that section.
    Best Regards,
    Gilles
    thank ruymbeke for your reply, I understand that it is preferable to await the final version of knoppix 6 to release its minirt.gz. (while I'm writing, I discovered that version 6.0.1 appear)
    I supouse that klaus knopper don't know his minirt.gz but will be fantastic that he will implement in knoppix (I think his minirt.gz license will be GPL), old proverb said: “if the mountain don't comes to Yohn, Yohn comes to the mountain” knoppix(A)knopper.net
    the posibility to run the iso image of knoppix GRUB.exe with GRUB-DOS or Windows through its minirt.gz is excellent, so I created a tutorial on h t t p: // w w w. knoppix-es.org/?q=node/2123 and a video tutorial on h t t p: // w w w. youtube.com /watch?v=5nT4BswhHmQ
    for all users or prospective users of the knoppix speaking the benefits of implementing an ISO image from knoppix and wear without the DVD / CD or use a USB pen-drive or USB flash-memory
    Excuse the lateness of my reply

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    VmWare Workstation 652/player 252 (156735) + Knoppix 531/511

    Hello,
    Please find below the new VmWare Workstation 6.5.2 or Player 2.5.2 (build 156735) virtual machine:
    http://s94002264.onlinehome.us/grub/vmk531_156735.zip (53.6MB) for both Knoppix 5.3.1 and Knoppix 5.1.1
    there are grub boot options to select for persistence or ramdisk and which one of the Knoppix 5.3.1 of Knoppix 5.1.1 iso is used
    Cf: VmWare appliances listing link: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/87753
    Have fun, and please provide some feedback...
    Best Regards,
    Gilles

    md5:
    f6bdd349c010059a158f184fa7a8c497 *vmk531_156735.zip (56'216'283)

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