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    Re: what about encrypted hd

    Quote Originally Posted by peekaboo
    ...I'm using safeguard disk encryption software for the hard drive. Could this be a problem?
    Yes, I think it is. The ntfs support in grub is somewhat limited and can obviously be improved.
    --Gilles

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    Re: Knoppix 3.8 linuxrc/minirt update to boot from NTFS

    Quote Originally Posted by ruymbeke
    I have been trying to update the linuxrc of Knoppix 3.8 (and also update the minirt.gz: ntfs,loop modules & busybox...), to allow to boot from NTFS, but no success so far... The 3.8 linuxrc has been changed significantly because of the unionfs and it is not that straight forward. If somebody would have some more time to spend on it, here is the link of my current file: http://s119307663.onlinehome.us/k38.zip
    But please let me know if you work on it, so we do not duplicate the work...
    Cheers, Gilles
    Hi, I used the 3.7 minirt26_ntfs.gz found in grubd.zip as a base. Mounted minirt26_ntfs as loop and modified it directly. This is what I did:

    1) patched the 3.8.1 linuxrc using the 3.7 linuxrc26_ntfs.diff (no other modifications made to linuxrc)
    2) updated the modules in /modules and copied over unionfs.ko
    3) didn't update /modules/scsi but deleted some files to make space for unionfs.ko (got out of space msg otherwise)

    Here's a link to the files: http://baasan.free.fr

    It seems to work for me (so far)

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    Re: Knoppix 3.8 linuxrc/minirt update to boot from NTFS

    Quote Originally Posted by pinjyoi
    Hi, I used the 3.7 minirt26_ntfs.gz found in grubd.zip as a base. Mounted minirt26_ntfs as loop and modified it directly. This is what I did:
    1) patched the 3.8.1 linuxrc using the 3.7 linuxrc26_ntfs.diff (no other modifications made to linuxrc)
    2) updated the modules in /modules and copied over unionfs.ko
    3) didn't update /modules/scsi but deleted some files to make space for unionfs.ko (got out of space msg otherwise)
    Here's a link to the files: http://baasan.free.fr
    It seems to work for me (so far)
    Thank you.
    I increased the size of the minirt_ntfs.gz file to 10MB in order to includes all the modules: http://s119307663.onlinehome.us/minirt_ntfs.gz
    and also updated the GRUBE.ZIP to work with knoppix 3.6, 3.7, and 3.8.1: http://s119307663.onlinehome.us/grube.zip
    As a recall here is the link to the Windows Partition PMI: http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Win_Partition
    Cheers, Gilles

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    Re: Knoppix 3.8 linuxrc/minirt update to boot from NTFS

    Quote Originally Posted by ruymbeke
    Thank you.
    I increased the size of the minirt_ntfs.gz file to 10MB in order to includes all the modules: http://s119307663.onlinehome.us/minirt_ntfs.gz
    and also updated the GRUBE.ZIP to work with knoppix 3.6, 3.7, and 3.8.1: http://s119307663.onlinehome.us/grube.zip
    As a recall here is the link to the Windows Partition PMI: http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Win_Partition
    Cheers, Gilles
    Thanks Gilles for consistently providing us grub with all the new versions of Knoppix.
    I have mirrored grube.zip.Here is where you can download it from
    http://bhavesh.mdns.org/pub/grubforknoppix/grube.zip

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    May I also add my thanks to Gilles and to Piniyoi for maintaining this fabulous technique through to the lastest 3.8.1Knoppix. I thought this UnionFS was going to cause trouble, bearing in mind the time it has taken this time!

    I am somewhat disappointed that the revised files are not now part of the standard distro. It has been asked for enough times both here and the developers mailing list. I guess Klaus does not see this as part of his remit. A shame, but we have so much to thank Klaus for that we cannot demand these ideas are taken on board.

    ICPUG

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    I am having the same problem. Booting to Knoppix 3.7 kernel 2.4 goes perfectly, but the same setup gives errors and gives up at /dev/hdh16 .. can not find knoppix file system when booting kernel 2.6 . I had managed to install a copy of kernel 2.4 into harddisk successfully.

    I have try failsafe, nodma & noapic and still does not work.

    The same error pop up even when I boot kernel 2.6 from CD that is created from the iso. I try booting kernel 2.6 from both Knoppix 3.7 and Knoppix 3.81 CD and the outcome is the same.

    My computer has Silicon Image Raid Controller that drives two harddisks plus a SATA harddisk.

    The identical setup for Knoppix 37 with Kernel 2.4 works so there is nothing fundamentally wrong.

    I use the linux and minrt_ntfs (extracted from grube.zip) and knoppix 3.81 still fail to boot.

    kernel (hd0,0)/boot/knoppix/linux ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init ramdisk=65536 apm=power-off bootfrom=/dev/hda1/*.iso lang=us keyboard=us vga=791 nomce quiet splash xmodule=nv vsync=60 screen=1280x768 home=scan myconfig=scan noprompt noeject
    initrd (hd0,0)/boot/knoppix/minirt_ntfs.gz
    boot

    Any comment?

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    Try adding the fromhd cheatcode before the bootfrom cheatcode.

    If that doesn't work try:

    fromhd=/dev/hda1

    When I did this on an earlier release it stopped searching for the iso on every device it could find and went straight to the hard drive.

    ICPUG

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICPUG
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    Try adding the fromhd cheatcode before the bootfrom cheatcode.

    If that doesn't work try:

    fromhd=/dev/hda1

    When I did this on an earlier release it stopped searching for the iso on every device it could find and went straight to the hard drive.

    ICPUG
    Tried that and it made no difference - except it got to the "Looking for CDROM in /dev/hdh16" much quicker - which is where it stops. It then says
    mount : ioctl : LOOP_SET_FD: Bad file descriptor

    A message flashes up - but then vanishes - it appears to say something like "cdrom2/ ... is not mountable"
    it is replaced by a message which reads "mount: could not set up loop device"

    It is clear that the HD is mounted since it is reading from the boot file: unlike when I boot from CD ROM it also states in the first line that NTFS is supported. So something is going right!


    The Windows Partition PMI states that "No partitioning is needed to run HD based Linux ..."

    I can run linux from CD on this machine which is the "typical single partition factory built computer" [NTFS] and use a thumb drive for the home and myconfig

    I get the same error whether or not the thumb drive is in the USB port - and when the home and config are directed to the thumb /mnt/uba1 or left to scan

    The wiki article in Tweak 2 states that you don't have to have a persistent home or saved config

    And, by the way, the method on the wiki does work on another machine with a FAT32 C: drive

    I should have said - I am running the 3.8.1 version of Knoppix

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    I try the fromhd cheat code on kernel 2.6 and the error 'cannot find knoppix file system' still appear.

    According to the following link, kernel 2.6 does not support ataraid. This could be the reason why kernel 2.6 can not work on my PC that has silicon image raid controller.

    http://rcswww.urz.tu-dresden.de/~hol...aid_howto.html

    I would like to thank pinjyoi for pointing me to the above link.

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    Try changing the hda1 to hda2, worked for me and I was getting the exact same error that you are getting

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