Cuddles ...

I did mean to reply earlier but time just slipped
away ....

>>
>> Digitized Eye
>>

You must mean the Knoppix wallpaper. Is that
what it is , i thought it was some sought of
mechanical thing. In that it looked like it had
gearing type teeth, which i read as something to do
with mechanisms working together.

Oh well , not to worry, it is cool and it is
important to have a cool logo .

It was the swirl that got me into deb initially.
It seemed to be asking a question, and at the same
time leading into a kind of center. As though the
question and answer were somehow the same. It
seemed to ominous at the time, to ignore

I can see what you kinda mean, concerning the
approaches of Windows and Linux. But i also tend
to think that it could have happened better
if Win hadn't taken over the market/industry
as they did. There's no wrong in being successful
in business of course, but Win did go about it about
it in a somewhat questionable manner. If not for the manipulations, we
may well have been enjoying a more advanced,
diversified and secure computing experience today.

I hope you haven't been slowly cooking your
processor(s) as a result of the layout you describe.
Good luck with the redesign. It does sound like
a good idea. That air really needs to be able to
circulate around the boxes.


>>
>> I've never tried any other Distro, and I
dont feel "left out" either ...
>>

You haven't been. There all the same basically.
except for different marketing and promotion, and
differences in the software versions they
bundle.

The only real differences just concern the
maintenance tools and the package management system
used. They tend to have subtle variations in
the way they implement the 'init' stage as well.
But that just boils down to the directory paths
used, and possibly the runlevel choices.



>>
The "Swirl" was never anything but a logo to me,
nothing to fear, nothing to get "hyped" about,
it was just a logo.
>>

A person, has just got to have, a cool logo but



>>
Had a man call into Windows Microsoft Network
( MSN ) Internet Service, phone rep at the time.
The guy "claimed" he bought AOL for $90,
.
.
.
>>


Yes, ... don't stop there

When a person is all shagged out, after a loonngg
days edit, thats __exactly___ whats needed. Please,
list them all. Maybe in its' own dedicated thread
some where. That would be a really good site addition.



I think you maybe wrong were you say that your
MS experience,

>>
... dont account for much in the Linux World ...
>>


It does really, it's just that you probably don't
notice it anymore. It's just gone into you, and
become part of your autonomic system.



>>
Not saying that everyone who runs, or wants to run,
Linux, has to have a 500
Watt bulb lit
up above there heads ...
>>

Anyone who suggests that something they try for
the first time, with out any other related experience
to draw on, was easy, can't remember what
it was like learning how to walk. Not the easiest
of feats, but easy once a person gets used to
it .


I tend to think, a persons training, aka,
education; what is supposed to expand them,
is also what tends to hold a person back. Notice
the way very young people often take to computers
so easily, in my opinion, because they haven't
been taught yet that its ___supposed___
to be hard.

A lot of people will decided on how their experience
is going to go, concerning something new
or unfamiliar, before they even bother to start.
Which kinda suggests to me, that there may be
a little more to it, than just that computers are
inherently difficult,t or anything like that.

As my 8 year old nephew says "... there a snak ..."


hmmmm, "comprehensive", ... I think i probably do
agree with the thread topic. Deb has led to a
lot of very good distros. Including Knoppix. And
there not afraid to mention that the "very latest
cutting edge" packages may have problems, lurking
some where with in them. After all, it takes time
to find those obscure bugs. Where as, some of the
other popular distros don't seem to want to mention
it. And i think, with all fairness and respect for
their user base, they should. And it is also a
generic standard in a way too, for an OS. So it does
become suitable, from a "learning how computers
work" point of view. Rather than learning how a
particular distro works.

I mean, deb was devised as a 'proof of concept'
expression, rather than as a distro as such. It
was meant to show that GNU F.S.F concepts could
be actualised, in a working OS. Deb also, has always
encouraged people to use it in terms of their
own derived works. Which has resulted in some,
quite nice debian based OS flavours coming about.


But, enough yack , more of those stories, There
really good

All the best ...


jm



Hey crashed ... Well there you go. "Pre-installed
spyware" !. That's just totally outrageous.

Strangely, it dosen't surprise me at all for
some reason