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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Jorge Garcia
    I give up! I don't know what's wrong with this dubm thing. I got the 2 zeros, BTW. I'll just refer to my backups on an as needed basis....

    TIA,
    AJG
    Since fish is a konqueror protocol (somebody correct me if I'm wrong on this), maybe you have a buggy konqueror. Perhaps try reinstalling konqueror: 'apt-get -t unstable install konqueror' to get the latest version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Jorge Garcia
    I give up! I don't know what's wrong with this dubm thing. I got the 2 zeros, BTW. I'll just refer to my backups on an as needed basis....
    Oh well. I quite understand but why not try mc instead of konq.

    BTW, maybe I should have set-up /home in a separate partition to begin with! I've never done that. Is it hard to do?
    Nope. http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.ph...PartitionHowTo (hope it's the correct link as Docs are down)

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    Markus: Is there a tutorial somewhere to tell you how to use mc for things like ftp and samba? (No, I haven't looked at TLDP yet...maybe I should RTFM.)

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    Sorry but I don't actually use mc much. Prefer konq. You can select - say, Left -> Ftp Link or Shell link and press F1 to see usage. It does work just like konq when you type in:
    /#sh:login@domain/remote-dir

    Hmm, got curious if there wasn't an easier way, no need to use the menu it seems. Chapter 7 of http://www.ibiblio.org/mc/FAQ :
    7.3 How do I do anonymous ftp with MC?

    Just type "cd ftp://hostname" where hostname is the name of the host
    you want to connect. Alternatively, select FTP link from the Left or
    Right menu and type the name of the host you want to connect.

    7.4 How do I do non-anonymous ftp with MC?

    Non-anonymous ftp works just like the anonymous ftp but you give the
    login name with the host name. For example, type "cd
    ftp://username@hostname".

    7.5 How do I close an ftp connection?

    Just change to a non-ftp directory. Simply typing "cd" with no
    parameters is enough (it will take you to your home directory).

    GNU Midnight Commander closes ftp connection automatically after a
    timeout or on exit. It's possible to force disconnect by selecting
    "Command" -> "Active VFS List" in the menu and using the "Free VFSs
    Now" button.

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    EUREKA! Finally I have success. I had to delete the known_hosts file so a new one could be generated. Something was wrong with it. In konqueror, fish would just say error connecting to host. From the shell in ssh I got some wierd message about "the man in the middle security breach," or some such ploy. Well, now I can again fish whole dirs from one PC to another PC (in Linux from hda2 on one PC to hda2 on another PC on my hom LAN).

    New problem: I also backed-up (using fish) my better half's MyDocuments from her WIMxP partition (from hda1 on PC1 to hda2 on PC2). Now I try to copy back that dir to the newly installed WIMxP partition (from hda2 on PC2 to hda1 on PC1) and I get the stalling problem again! This time I think its because hda1 is ro, not rw. So, after clicking the hda1 icon on the KNOPPIX desktop to mount it, I also right clicked it to change to rw. The problem is that I don't think it switched to rw so fish can't write to the partition.

    In older versions of KNOPPIX, when you right click a partition to change it to rw, there was a prompt saying something to the effect: "are you sure you want to change this partition to rw?" Then if you right clicked again it would ask if you're sure you want to change that partition to ro. Now, in KNOPPIX 3.6 2004.0816, you can right-click to change to rw but there's no prompt so I don't know if its changing to rw or not!

    BTW, you mentioned using ping to test my LAN and all pinged fine. I can ping from on home PC to another over my router (from 192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.101 and back, etc). Shouldn't I be able to ping my PC at work (that I ssh to from home all the time)? When I try, ping returns nothing....

    What can I do about this?

    TIA,
    AJG

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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Jorge Garcia
    EUREKA! Finally I have success. I had to delete the known_hosts file so a new one could be generated.
    Don't want to sound like a smarty but didn't I say that day before yesterday!

    [/quote] Something was wrong with it. [/quote]

    Actually, nothing wrong with it. What happens is when you regenerate the host keys on either machine it or reinstall /upgrade ssh it generates new ID codes which do not match what known_hosts file expects so it refuses entry. The error messages you got are normal for when this happens.

    New problem: I also backed-up (using fish) my better half's MyDocuments from her WIMxP partition (from hda1 on PC1 to hda2 on PC2). Now I try to copy back that dir to the newly installed WIMxP partition (from hda2 on PC2 to hda1 on PC1) and I get the stalling problem again! This time I think its because hda1 is ro, not rw. So, after clicking the hda1 icon on the KNOPPIX desktop to mount it, I also right clicked it to change to rw. The problem is that I don't think it switched to rw so fish can't write to the partition.
    ALARMS BELLS!!!! Do not attempt to write to a ntfs filesystem.
    Use captive ntfs or you will damage the ntfs system. I'm not sure but I think all you have to do is 'mount -t captive-ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 '. Can't check, I have no ntfs systems.

    In older versions of KNOPPIX, when you right click a partition to change it to rw, there was a prompt saying something to the effect: "are you sure you want to change this partition to rw?" Then if you right clicked again it would ask if you're sure you want to change that partition to ro. Now, in KNOPPIX 3.6 2004.0816, you can right-click to change to rw but there's no prompt so I don't know if its changing to rw or not!
    I have found that the 'change to rw' action doesn't always work when installed to HD. Easier to just open a console & type 'mount -rw /dev/hda7'. If it's already mounted the command is 'mount -o remount, rw /dev/hda7' but it's easier to just 'umount /dev/hda7' then 'mount -rw /dev/hda7' if you're memory is like mine. Once again, do not attempt to write to a normally mounted ntfs partition.

    BTW, you mentioned using ping to test my LAN and all pinged fine. I can ping from on home PC to another over my router (from 192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.101 and back, etc). Shouldn't I be able to ping my PC at work (that I ssh to from home all the time)? When I try, ping returns nothing....
    If you can ssh, you should be able to ping. and fish too (if it is running kde). Perhaps you have firewalls???You should also be able to ping internet addresses (try google: 216.239.57.99) .

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    Yes, yes, carshedAgain, thank you, I was trying to give you credit for helping me, but I guess I wasn't specific enough!

    BTW, don't worry, I run a FAT32 shop at home and at work. Any PC I get that isn't partitioned hda1 as fat32 and hda2 as ext2 and hda3 as linux swap gets fixed by me right away....

    Regards,
    A. Jorge Garcia

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