Knoppix to split into CD and DVD versions.

[aay]

According to the following article, Klaus is planing on creating CD and DVD versions of Knoppix for future release.

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/lin...9181773,00.htm

Acording to the article, "The Knoppix Linux Live CD will be split into two editions - a 'light' version for older computers, and a 'maximum' version that has all the Debian packages"

[firebyrd10]

Will that light Version be the same as whats out now? Or even less packages.

If the latter I hope a normal CD is still made.

[aay]

Will that light Version be the same as whats out now? Or even less packages.

If the latter I hope a normal CD is still made.

I'm not sure, but it sounds like that the CD will remain pretty much as it is. The thing that seems to be new is the addition of a DVD which I suppose will be published whenever a new CD is published.

[RandomGoon]

Imagine the poor schlub that tries to pull the DVD down via dial-up... You know someone will try to do just that. Still, even on broadband that download should take quite a while, relatively speaking.

'Goon

[chris-uk]

Twelve euros to iso-top.info is so much more practical than 72 hours on broadband to New Zealand. Both work, though.
I suppose the next job is to eliminate the 2GB 'line' that the KNOPPIX file seems to suffer with, and figure out what to put on the 50GB BluRay DVDs that we get next year. And the 25GB biodegradeable corn-starch ones, assuming the news article wasn't a joke.
I put a 'qemu' with a Knoppix. The result of that is something that autoplays under Windows like http://unit.aist.go.jp/it/knoppix/qemu/index-en.html . It works, too.
You can also do this with games-knoppix from http://games-knoppix.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/ . St. Nicholas has the ability and the permission to distribute an unlimited number of these on Friday night (24/25 Dec), and it would make a great present for lots of kids if he did. I wonder if he will.

[Harry Kuhman]

.....I suppose the next job is to eliminate the 2GB 'line' that the KNOPPIX file seems to suffer with.....

It looks like probono has already done that with the cmg format packages he is using. Knoppix can have a 2 gig file, then plenty of more applications to fill the rest of the disc (even double layer discs until we get those blue ray drives) in cmg files.

[suzaki]

How about SFS-KNOPPIX to use 'light' and 'maximum' knoppix?
http://unit.aist.go.jp/itri/knoppix/sfs/index-en.html

SFS-KNOPPIX is independent of cloop-size, because it share cloop files via Internet with SFS(Self-certyfing File System) and downloads requested blocks only.
CD of SFS-KNOPPIX includes boot loader only. We can select 'light' and 'maximum' knoppix at boot time.

SFS-KNOPPIX is discussed in the following forum. Please join.
http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14904

[lilsirecho]

What is needed for SFS KNOPPIX is a server in this country to reduce the inherent delay from far away Japan.

SFS KNOPPIX operates well and does permit the use of apps greater than the CD limits up to the servers limits of stored programs.

Maybe someone in the USA can provide the server?

[Harry Kuhman]

What is needed for SFS KNOPPIX is a server in this country...

I guess SFS Knoppix is OK for what it is, but I certainly hope I don't see it find it's way into the regular release CD or DVD. I hope the DVD is full of applications (well beyond the 2 gig limit by using cmg files as well as the clopp). I want to be able to use it on an airplane, or when I'm at my parents home with no Internet access.

SFS looks like it could be very handy if one has a local SFS server. By local I mean on one's own loacl network. It's less clear to me that a server in my country would be a big improvement (although it would likely help, but maybe not - I used get my new Knoppix ISo files before I used bittorrent from a server off my continent, because all of my national servers were much slower than some foregin servers.)

[lilsirecho]

Harry;
The SFS KNOPPIX full CD download is obtained in 3 minutes in Japan (Japan is 1200 miles long).

The download of the full CD from Japan to USA at 88kB/sec is a 30 minute task.

The improvement is great for the full CD.

The download for any part of the full complement is proportional to its size and the download speed of the internet connection. Thus, access to many programs is provided by the initial 20MB download, including those supposedly DVD only.

I question the use of cmg in tandem or conjunction with Knoppix since knoppix operates on a different basis(uncompressing on the fly).

I am not certain that the program k3b permits additions to knoppix installed CD's since the mechanism utilized for install in such a case is isolinux as initiated by the program selected in k3b.

Whether additional material can be added which is compatible with the knoppix format is certainly not clear.

Probably material to fill the DVD available space is possible with another program and a different access mechanism but can't see the advantage off-hand. It means restarting for access.

Perhaps I do not understand cmg sufficiently to be more specific but do appreciate the requirements for burning Knoppix to CD or DVD and the consequent restrictions.