Me Code... please break...

**OErjan** · 12-30-2004, 03:53 PM

shal we bet?
programs/hardware (in otherwords computers at a verry low level) are but combinations of:
and, or, nand... circuits and binaries.
this means that everything is basically one huge mathematical jungle to hack trough.
computers are good at that, as long as the numbers and formulas are right that is...

**chris-harry** · 01-01-2005, 06:06 AM

yeah, but a human (if he has the 2 keys), would be able to break it... it will take a very long time though... very very long...

**jjmac** · 01-01-2005, 12:16 PM

Howdy chris-harry

>>
I'll give you another clue... this might be confusing...
but, hopefully you wont be too confused

>>

More intrigued,

>>
ok... that program that generates that random code leaves a barcode inside the text clue one!! shh
>>

Ok, heh heh

New it had to have a key somewhere.

You say it's not really encryption. In what way is it
not ?

When you say it dosen't use, or. rely on maths to
do its' job ... that sounds a little strange.
Are you saying there, that it's not directly reliant on
a formula, as a quadratic would be. Even with the two
xes generating a single y, that problem could be
worked around by just treating one or the other differently.

You mention scrabble, does it involve a form of
juxta-position, possibly in two axises. Or, at least
more than one. Which would be were the keys come into it.

I'l have to ignore the term "random" i think, in
order to deal with this. As "random" may not
be exactly what you mean.

A lot of so-called "random" generations arn't
really random at all. Being limited by the selection range
used. A truly "random" generation is just that. By
definition it becomes unsuitable for encoding purposes as it's impossible to reverse

.
Very suitable though for creating tmp file names for
sensitive processes. Thus the purpose for the
"entropy" pool, as used in Linux.

I know heh heh, ummmmmmm, encode the following.

"The dog, sat next to the log, while eating a bone"

Having the encoded version to compare against would
be curious.

Am i correct in thinking, that if you were to encode
it more than once, it would be different each time.
In that, thats what your getting at by the idea of
"random".

to be continued... heh heh

jm

**chris-harry** · 01-02-2005, 11:29 AM

ok... this is getting really really really confusing...

oh... by the way... i will post the encoded version of that text you wanted encoded tommorow...

i unpluged me computer in me room... for the tv...

**jjmac** · 01-03-2005, 06:38 AM

>>
]ok... this is getting really really really
confusing...

>>

If you were to randomise a character, then you
could have a sequence were the first character
represents the ascii offset needed to restore the
following character. And no two generations would
be the same, well, within the limits of the
random pool used, of course.

Something like that could just output ...

"offset char offset char etc"

But that would be dead easy to crack.

It would be nice to see what it actually looks
like...

I'm sure no one will try to use it again'st you

jm

**chris-harry** · 01-03-2005, 10:46 AM

ok... here is what you wanted me to code

The dog, sat next to the log, while eating a bone

well... i decided to code it more then once, and i got three results...

Code:

paacsmit=j~5c8wa;[1eui],hx8:zn^t8:z7j=4ab,50p2*#./41umit^eba4$\wwemk ,usz^z>n

result one

Code:

wxv3i(%^}vp}r9.'q39camz<) c6mj~*c6ms?\{p18eai*!^2hz.c(%^@dw\y3)[w\#;?)t1]~3x\

result two

Code:

xoa9v&eh{(~yl(+=}f#^--2c +53=z{453=v7@sc<k+81^7(&0ny<&eh{bow$c6'q8(%w;b>o;a]+

result three... does that give you any clues....

**jjmac** · 01-03-2005, 12:00 PM

You are very, very twisted chris-harry ...

I'll have to scrutinise those a bit though

heh heh

If i can't figure it over the next week, i'll admit
to it

jm

**chris-harry** · 01-04-2005, 04:55 AM

its a good code isnt it.. very hard...

i spent hours, well... an hour trying to think up on how to code thing... but the hardest part is the programming a program so it applies to the rules of the code... any way... have fun mwahahahahaha