HD Install on FAT32/DOS ?

**boehmb** · 01-31-2003, 08:46 PM

So, the Knoppix files copied from the CD must be in the root directory of a FAT or FAT32 disk to boot Knoppix, correct? Will there be any adverse effects on the hard drive since it has Windoze on it?

**boehmb** · 02-01-2003, 01:01 AM

Well, I tried the procedure tuxtom outlined above and it works! With the boot floppy made with mkfloppy.bat and the Knoppix files on the hard drive (in the root directory), Knoppix boots off the C: drive very quickly and doesn't disturb my Windoze 98SE installation. The only thing is, you still have to save your configuration files to a floppy. And, while booting, after the boot floppy is done (after Knoppix mounts hda1) you have to swap the boot floppy for your config floppy. But it works, and all the apps load lightning fast! I'm happy. Now, if only your configuration files can be saved on the hard drive and read at boot up. Hmmmm...

**krazy_sportz_guy25** · 02-01-2003, 07:29 PM

Can it work in a folder in the C drive? Can't you put a bootloader on a floppy and set it to boot from a folder on the c drive with knoppix in it? If so, how would you do it (I'm not very experienced)

**boehmb** · 02-01-2003, 08:28 PM

Just copy the Knoppix folder from the CD to the root directory on your hard drive. You are copying a folder to your hard drive, not separate files. Then, make a boot floppy from the batch file "mkfloppy.bat" on the Knoppix CD. It works great. If you have a configuration floppy you made with Knoppix to save all your settings, you will have to swap the boot floppy for the config floppy after Knoppix starts to boot from the HD.

**tuxtom** · 02-02-2003, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by tuxtom

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It's also possible to run knoppix this way without a boot disk, using a linux boot manager (lilo or grub)
but that's another story.

Here's the other story!
I created a primary partition size 1 cyl ~ 8 MB as hda1.
To this partition I dumped the /KNOPPIX/boot-de.img from the cd.

Code:

# dd if=boot-de.img of=/dev/hda1

Ok, with this I wasted 7 MB of disk space, but KNOPPIX runs without a boot diskette.
To use this with lilo, just put to /etc/lilo.conf:

Code:

other=/dev/hda1
  label="KNOPPIX cd"

and run lilo again

With grub, put to /boot/grub/menu.lst:

Code:

title           Knoppix cd
root            (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

tom

**oscar** · 02-06-2003, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by Loki

I'm wondering if this could be done at all,
perhaps with loadlin ? HELP !

Copy CD KNOPPIX folder in C:\KNOPPIX
copy miniroot.gz and vmlinux in c:\ (they are in boot.img). Extract with winimage or from floppy created with mkfloppy.bat

then put this in C:\knx.bat

c:\loadlin.exe c:\vmlinuz rw lang=en floppyconf root=/dev/hda1 initrd=c:\miniroot.gz console=null acpi=off screen=800x600

(put floppy with saved configuratiuon in A:\)

example with more options
C:\loadlin.exe c:\vmlinuz lang=en ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init noapic apm=power-off hda=scsi hdb=scsi hdc=scsi hdd=scsi hde=scsi hdf=scsi hdg=scsi hdh=scsi vga=791 initrd=C:\miniroot.gz screen=800x600 quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix

**ironstorm** · 02-07-2003, 03:10 AM

If someone were ambitous they could proably build a UMSDOS installer script for Knoppix to copy into C:\Linux... I once played with running Debian:Slink from a 800MB Fat drive (when I had Win95)....

The other possiblity would be UVFAT, which doesn't mangle the names under VFAT(FAT32)....

The kernel needs to have UMSDOS/UVFAT support built in for it to work be able to mount and boot properly.

Anyway check out http://linux.voyager.hr/umsdos/ for details

-G

**sepht** · 02-11-2003, 06:02 AM

Ah, Tom...
You do know youre ordering won ton soup to all us newbies out here.
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If I understand you at all though, I want to ask if you did the same kind of install that we did, ie copying cd contents to folder. Cuz it sounds like you are editing system files there, and on cd copy all I've seen is that all sysfiles are compressed and unreachable...
Confuscious Confused
~S~

al · 02-19-2003, 05:22 PM

I tried.
The partition created must be a Linux partition.
It works, but the boot connot be made by Partition Magic, only by Lilo.
So you have to boot first and go to a Linux partition with lilo and then choose the new boot as indicated.

It seems to work only if no parameters are given. As soon as one want to give some, it hangs. May be some files are missing somewhere.

All this suggest that one can also create a 700M partition (a Linux one) and put on it the iso image of the cd rom. I did not tried.

**Zootje** · 02-25-2003, 04:19 AM

I just found this one a few minutes ago:

http://www.freenet.org.nz/misc/knopp...ationprocedure

Could be useful for whoever wants more, I haven't tried it yet but will do that tomorrow.