Klik Base

[urielka]

I saw that Klik works with Knoppix because it is a LiveCD and the basic packages doesn`t change.
So which package does Klik depends that are in Knoppix LiveCD(only the basic ones)?

[probono]

Currently klik assumes the following base if it doesn't recognize your distribution:

Package: aalib1
Package: adduser
Package: apt
Package: arj
Package: ark
Package: base-files
Package: base-passwd
Package: bash
Package: bc
Package: binutils
Package: bsdmainutils
Package: bsdutils
Package: bzip2
Package: cdparanoia
Package: cdrdao
Package: cdrecord
Package: console-common
Package: console-data
Package: coreutils
Package: cpio
Package: cpp
Package: cpp-3.3
Package: cron
Package: cupsys
Package: cupsys-bsd
Package: cupsys-client
Package: debconf
Package: debconf-i18n
Package: debconf-utils
Package: debhelper
Package: debianutils
Package: defoma
Package: diff
Package: dosfstools
Package: dpkg
Package: dpkg-dev
Package: dselect
Package: dvd+rw-tools
Package: e2fslibs
Package: e2fsprogs
Package: eject
Package: enscript
Package: esound-common
Package: file
Package: findutils
Package: fontconfig
Package: foomatic-bin
Package: foomatic-db
Package: foomatic-db-engine
Package: foomatic-db-gimp-print
Package: foomatic-db-hpijs
Package: foomatic-filters
Package: ftp
Package: g++
Package: g++-3.3
Package: gawk
Package: gcc
Package: gcc-3.3
Package: gcc-3.3-base
Package: gconf2
Package: gettext
Package: gettext-base
Package: grep
Package: groff-base
Package: gs-common
Package: gs-esp
Package: gsfonts
Package: gsfonts-x11
Package: gv
Package: gzip
Package: hdparm
Package: hicolor-icon-theme
Package: hostname
Package: hotplug
Package: hpijs
Package: html2text
Package: ifupdown
Package: ijsgimpprint
Package: intltool-debian
Package: k3b
Package: k3blibs
Package: kate
Package: kcalc
Package: kcontrol
Package: kdeadmin-kfile-plugins
Package: kdebase-bin
Package: kdebase-data
Package: kdebase-kio-plugins
Package: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins
Package: kdelibs-bin
Package: kdelibs-data
Package: kdelibs4
Package: kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins
Package: kdepasswd
Package: kdeprint
Package: kdesktop
Package: kfax
Package: kfind
Package: kfloppy
Package: kghostview
Package: khelpcenter
Package: kicker
Package: klaptopdaemon
Package: klipper
Package: klogd
Package: kmenuedit
Package: kmix
Package: konqueror
Package: konqueror-nsplugins
Package: konsole
Package: kppp
Package: krfb
Package: ksmserver
Package: ksnapshot
Package: ksplash
Package: ksysguard
Package: ksysguardd
Package: kuser
Package: kviewshell
Package: kwin
Package: less
Package: libacl1
Package: libao2
Package: libart-2.0-2
Package: libarts1
Package: libartsc0
Package: libasound2
Package: libaspell15
Package: libatk1.0-0
Package: libattr1
Package: libaudio2
Package: libaudiofile0
Package: libblkid1
Package: libbz2-1.0
Package: libc6
Package: libc6-dev
Package: libcap1
Package: libcdparanoia0
Package: libcomerr2
Package: libcupsimage2
Package: libcupsys2-gnutls10
Package: libcurl2
Package: libcurl3
Package: libdb1-compat
Package: libdb3
Package: libdb4.2
Package: libdps1
Package: libdv4
Package: libesd0
Package: libexif10
Package: libexpat1
Package: libfam0c102
Package: libflac++2c102
Package: libflac4
Package: libfontconfig1
Package: libfreetype6
Package: libgcc1
Package: libgconf2-4
Package: libgcrypt11
Package: libgdbm3
Package: libgimpprint1
Package: libglade2-0
Package: libglib1.2
Package: libglib2.0-0
Package: libgnutls11
Package: libgpg-error0
Package: libgphoto2-2
Package: libgphoto2-port0
Package: libgpmg1
Package: libgtk1.2
Package: libgtk1.2-common
Package: libgtk2.0-0
Package: libgtk2.0-bin
Package: libgtk2.0-common
Package: libgtkspell0
Package: libhtml-parser-perl
Package: libhtml-tagset-perl
Package: libhtml-tree-perl
Package: libice6
Package: libid3-3.8.3
Package: libid3tag0
Package: libidl0
Package: libidn11
Package: libijs-0.35
Package: libiw27
Package: libjasper-1.701-1
Package: libjpeg-progs
Package: libjpeg62
Package: libkonq4
Package: libkrb53
Package: liblcms1
Package: libldap2
Package: liblircclient0
Package: liblocale-gettext-perl
Package: liblockfile1
Package: liblzo1
Package: libmad0
Package: libmagic1
Package: libmikmod2
Package: libmng1
Package: libncurses5
Package: libnetpbm10
Package: libnewt0.51
Package: libnspr4
Package: libnss3
Package: libogg0
Package: liboggflac1
Package: libopencdk8
Package: liborbit2
Package: libpam-modules
Package: libpam-runtime
Package: libpam0g
Package: libpango1.0-0
Package: libpango1.0-common
Package: libpaper1
Package: libpcre3
Package: libperl5.8
Package: libpng12-0
Package: libpopt0
Package: libqt3c102-mt
Package: libraw1394-5
Package: libreadline4
Package: libsasl2
Package: libsdl1.2debian
Package: libsensors3
Package: libslp1
Package: libsm6
Package: libsmbclient
Package: libsndfile1
Package: libspeex1
Package: libss2
Package: libssl0.9.7
Package: libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
Package: libstdc++5
Package: libstdc++5-3.3-dev
Package: libsvga1
Package: libtag1
Package: libtasn1-2
Package: libtext-charwidth-perl
Package: libtext-iconv-perl
Package: libtext-wrapi18n-perl
Package: libtiff4
Package: libungif4g
Package: liburi-perl
Package: libusb-0.1-4
Package: libuuid1
Package: libvorbis0a
Package: libvorbisenc2
Package: libvorbisfile3
Package: libwrap0
Package: libwww-perl
Package: libx11-6
Package: libxaw7
Package: libxcursor1
Package: libxext6
Package: libxft1
Package: libxft2
Package: libxi6
Package: libxine1
Package: libxml2
Package: libxmu6
Package: libxmuu1
Package: libxp6
Package: libxpm4
Package: libxrandr2
Package: libxrender1
Package: libxslt1.1
Package: libxt6
Package: libxtrap6
Package: libxtst6
Package: libxv1
Package: locales
Package: login
Package: logrotate
Package: make
Package: makedev
Package: man-db
Package: manpages
Package: mbr
Package: menu-xdg
Package: mkisofs
Package: module-init-tools
Package: mpg321
Package: ncurses-base
Package: ncurses-bin
Package: net-tools
Package: netbase
Package: netkit-inetd
Package: netpbm
Package: passwd
Package: patch
Package: pciutils
Package: pcmcia-cs
Package: perl
Package: perl-base
Package: perl-modules
Package: perl-suid
Package: po-debconf
Package: poster
Package: ppp
Package: pppoe
Package: procps
Package: psmisc
Package: psutils
Package: python
Package: python2.3
Package: reiserfsprogs
Package: samba
Package: samba-common
Package: sed
Package: slang1
Package: slang1a-utf8
Package: smbclient
Package: smbfs
Package: sox
Package: ssh
Package: sysklogd
Package: sysvinit
Package: tar
Package: tcl8.4
Package: tcpd
Package: tk8.4
Package: traceroute
Package: ttf-bitstream-vera
Package: ttf-freefont
Package: ucf
Package: unzip
Package: usbutils
Package: util-linux
Package: vorbis-tools
Package: wget
Package: whiptail
Package: wireless-tools
Package: xaw3dg
Package: xbase-clients
Package: xfonts-100dpi
Package: xfonts-75dpi
Package: xfonts-base
Package: xfonts-scalable
Package: xlibmesa-dri
Package: xlibmesa-gl
Package: xlibmesa-glu
Package: xlibs
Package: xlibs-data
Package: xmms
Package: xserver-common
Package: xterm
Package: xutils
Package: zip
Package: zlib1g

[urielka]

thx just what i needed

[probono]

Are you developing a klik-optimized distro? If so, please let us know

[urielka]

i am working(more acuarate,i am planning) on making a linux distro that will have a click-n-run just like MacOSX.
in this distro the applications(and librarys) will be sparte to two kinds:

1.Sytem (Library and applications- windows managers,supporting libs(QT,GTK,FLTK),system apps(coreutils,binutils,compilers,consoles apps,Desktop Eviroments)).
2.User (Mostly applications-Gimp,Media players,Games,Browsers etc.).

While all the user applications will be in a /Applications Directory and will be an Cmg with meta-data(Icon,Version...).(All the Users can "install" to it but one user can block writing/reading/executing(if he is the one that "installed" it) from other user using permissions).
the System applications will be manged from apt-get or some other package manager.(you need super user account for changing these apps and libs).

the main idea is to make installing software on linux just a matter of drag-n-drop to the Application Dir(i think we could even make an installers for Drivers and Closed-Source apps like java and flash so they could be installed with a click(i will need only the root password for it)).

right now i am doing some testing under a chroot in ubuntu so if i have any results i will post it here.

i have some questions:
1.is there any way to make an cmg that have a icon and some meta data(it just like a .desktop file but with a cmg)?
2.the "base" system is quite large and don`t really have the basics applications and libs(why XMMS,K3b,Ark-they are an user aplications*) ,could it be smaller?

thx

*even if a application depend on it (like in kde you can create a music cd from your juk playlist) you can change it in the config file of the application or if it doesn`t support it you can make a script with the name of application(in this case K3B) that will be(lets say) in /usr/bin that will run k3b`s cmg.

[probono]

Hi urielka,

that sounds like an extremely cool project, please keep me updated.

1.is there any way to make an cmg that have a icon and some meta data(it just like a .desktop file but with a cmg)?

I don't know of any that keeps all inside one file (which is the cmg philosophy). See http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18488

2.the "base" system is quite large and don`t really have the basics applications and libs(why XMMS,K3b,Ark-they are an user aplications*) ,could it be smaller?

Yes, definitely. It can be as small as you want it, but then the cmg files get bigger in case they need some dependencies that are not in the base system. The above is the "least common denominator" from Kanotix, Knoppix, and Mepis. But it can be further reduced, you can safely leave out the GUI applications. If you also reduce the libs, then I must adjust the klik server according to your package list.

Greetings,
probono