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    Little strange things about klik

    Hello,
    (and sorry for my poor english ...)
    when i run klik it works fine... then i am installing round about six klik cmgs... and i wonder after a while about the typical message of "can't mount /app/1 etc." and "please edit fstab...". but that was not the solution. i watch the process manager and saw different "zombie" instances of cmg files. i kill these instances and all works fine.
    question: what can i do to prevent this "feature"? (klik works, but sometimes i want more then one to run... seven mountpoints exists.)
    thanks
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    Re: Little strange things about klik

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstars
    when i run klik it works fine... then i am installing round about six klik cmgs... and i wonder after a while about the typical message of "can't mount /app/1 etc." and "please edit fstab...". but that was not the solution. i watch the process manager and saw different "zombie" instances of cmg files. i kill these instances and all works fine.
    question: what can i do to prevent this "feature"? (klik works, but sometimes i want more then one to run... seven mountpoints exists.)
    Sounds like a bug not a feature. When a klik/cmg application has finished running, all processes should end and all mount points should be cleaned up. If this is not happening can you say what applications are turning into zombies, and perhaps show the relevant listing from ps and mount?

    The only limit is that without a bootup cheatcode to allow more loop devices you can only run up to 7 cmg programs simultaneously.

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    Enter

    mount | grep app ; ps ax | grep cmg

    before, while, and after you are running a cmg application. Only while the application is running, something should show up. If the mounted image doesn't disappear after finishing the application, then something is badly wrong.

    Which OS are you on and wich application(s) are you using?

    Greetings,
    probono

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    Hello again,
    and thank you for your fast answer. o.k. seven applications is enough. but i have to correct: i have installed six cmgs:
    1. opera (cmg on the desktop)
    2.lsongs (cmg on the desktop)
    3. openoffice 2 (cmg on the desktop)
    4. filelight (cmg in my home directory)
    5. konverter ( cmg in my home directory)
    6. bastille (cmg in my home directory)

    yesterday at first lsongs and opera are running at the same time. then i burned a dvd+r dl with k3b. then lsongs became slower and slower, so i end this application. then i want to open openoffice. now the error comes (described above). i shut down opera and saw in my process manager, that all ended cmg instances are alive (zombies).
    but from now on:
    the error comes up with only the cmgs files on my desktop! (openoffice, opera, lsongs)
    filelight, konverter, bastille makes no problems.

    short: only cmg files startet from the desktop can't run simultaneously.

    thank you
    darkstars

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    results for probono

    o.k.
    before i run cmgs:
    kalbat@Box:~$ mount | grep app ; ps ax | grep cmg
    12452 pts/1 R+ 0:00 grep cmg
    while i run cmgs:
    start with lsongs
    /mnt/app/7/image on /mnt/app/7 type cramfs (ro,nosuid,nodev,loop=/dev/loop0,user=kalbat)
    12590 ? S 0:00 /bin/sh /home/kalbat/.zAppRun /home/kalbat/Desktop/lsongs.cmg
    now i want to start opera:
    mount | grep app ; ps ax | grep cmg
    /mnt/app/7/image on /mnt/app/7 type cramfs (ro,nosuid,nodev,loop=/dev/loop0,user=kalbat)
    12590 ? S 0:00 /bin/sh /home/kalbat/.zAppRun /home/kalbat/Desktop/lsongs.cmg
    12743 ? S 0:00 /bin/sh /home/kalbat/.zAppRun /home/kalbat/Desktop/opera.cmg
    12771 ? S 0:00 kdialog --error You seem to be unable to mount .cmg images correctly.?You can setup your /etc/fstab to allow users to mount .cmg images.??To prepare your fstabAs root, please make /mnt/app writeable and add the following lines ?################################################# ######################?/mnt/app/1/image /mnt/app/1 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0?/mnt/app/2/image /mnt/app/2 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0?/mnt/app/3/image /mnt/app/3 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0?/mnt/app/4/image /mnt/app/4 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0?/mnt/app/5/image /mnt/app/5 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0?/mnt/app/6/image /mnt/app/6 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0?/mnt/app/7/image /mnt/app/7 cramfs,iso960 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0?################################################ ####################### --caption klik
    then i start filelight:
    $ mount | grep app ; ps ax | grep cmg
    /mnt/app/7/image on /mnt/app/7 type cramfs (ro,nosuid,nodev,loop=/dev/loop0,user=kalbat)
    12590 ? S 0:00 /bin/sh /home/kalbat/.zAppRun /home/kalbat/Desktop/lsongs.cmg
    now i shut down the kliks:
    nothing in the console

    thank you
    darkstars

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    root@Box:/mnt/app/2# ls -l
    insgesamt 0
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 kalbat kalbat 30 2005-05-07 08:08 image -> /home/kalbat/Desktop/dcgui.cmg
    root@Box:/mnt/app/2# cd ../3
    root@Box:/mnt/app/3# ls -l
    insgesamt 0
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 kalbat kalbat 30 2005-05-07 08:14 image -> /home/kalbat/Desktop/dcgui.cmg
    root@Box:/mnt/app/3# cd ../4
    root@Box:/mnt/app/4# ls -l
    insgesamt 0
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 kalbat kalbat 30 2005-05-07 08:15 image -> /home/kalbat/Desktop/dcgui.cmg
    root@Box:/mnt/app/4# cd ../5
    root@Box:/mnt/app/5# ls -l
    insgesamt 0
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 kalbat kalbat 30 2005-05-07 08:22 image -> /home/kalbat/Desktop/dcgui.cmg
    root@Box:/mnt/app/5# cd ../6
    root@Box:/mnt/app/6# ls -l
    insgesamt 0
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 kalbat kalbat 30 2005-05-07 08:24 image -> /home/kalbat/Desktop/dcgui.cmg
    root@Box:/mnt/app/6# cd ../1
    root@Box:/mnt/app/1# ls -l
    insgesamt 0
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 kalbat kalbat 30 2005-05-08 12:37 image -> /home/kalbat/Desktop/dcgui.cmg
    root@Box:/mnt/app/1#
    last but not least: more rights for /mnt/app then necessary... but not the solution...
    Darkstars

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    System Events
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    May 8 12:20:44 Box kernel: cramfs: wrong magic
    May 8 12:20:44 Box kernel: ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
    May 8 12:22:45 Box kernel: cramfs: wrong magic
    May 8 12:22:45 Box kernel: ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
    May 8 12:23:26 Box kernel: cramfs: wrong magic
    perhaps for interest ....
    darkstars

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    This is interesting. Does anyone have the same problems?

    It should not matter where you store your cmg files. Per default, you can only run seven cmg files at the same time. As soon as you quit one cmg application, the cmg should be unmounted and the loop device should be free for another cmg. It seems as if this doesn't always work in your case.

    Btw, you can use a kernel boot option to allow for more loop devices, so that you can run more than seven cmg apps at a time (would need some easy changes in the klik scripts though).

    Greetings,
    probono

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