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    >>
    99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 ...
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    An extract from "man lilo"
    --------------------------------------------
    All hex error codes are BIOS return values, except for the lilo-generated 40, 99 and 9A. A partial list of error codes follows:

    99 invalid second stage index sector (LILO)
    ----------------------------------------------

    What ever you did, it would seem that the 1st stage couldn't find the second stage.

    There can be a number of reasons for that ... If you installed a new copy of lilo, but it was incomplete, then the 2nd stage was probably missing.

    If you removed the partition entry from the main table ... the 1st stage wouldn't find its' 2nd stage as a result. As it's still working through the bios untill the 2nd stage loader is brought in.

    It would be interesting to see some "apt-get" log output. KDE is a large program, so there would have a lot of things that apt would have been attempting to fetch.

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    took a couple of hours...
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    Sounds OK, i would have thought all night ... depending on your conection that is (dial up)

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    anyone know why that happened??
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    Which part , the scratch, apt, Kde ?, the password ......

    You can do "dummy" runs of "apt-get". I think it has a --dry-run switch. If you pipe the output to a log ... you should get a good idea on any problems that may occure during the actual update.


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    i tell you what i really want to see, the starter war... where the humans first fight the cylons, before the attack on caprica...
    >>

    Yes, i hope they bring it back ... it would be good to see it complete. But those shows are rarly all figured out from the beginning. I suppose it could be said that they kinda make-it-up as they go

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    hats the problem when you cut down your population in a story... you dont have anywhere to move to kill off people
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    Yes, but you can save a lot of cash on salaries(grin) ... pay-day on friday ... avalanch scene on thursday ... but thats an old trick hehe

    I think the ending had a definite ... to be continued ... type of air to it. As soon as they figure out were to continue it to, that is.

    On your install though ... have you tryed a direct copy from the running cd to a partition. The only quirk is that you need to reset all the read-only file settings. A bit drawn out, and needs monitoring ... but interesting still ...

    edit: 05/06/2005:
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    the 1st stage would find its' 2nd stage as a result. ..... to ......

    the 1st stage wouldn't find its' 2nd stage as a result
    ----------------------------------------------------

    jm

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              -|-   If the system is the answer, then the question 
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    thanks...

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    by the way, how many times has this topic, gone off topic... just wanna know... i have a habbit of making topics go off topic...

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    http://klik.atekon.de/index.php?section=games/

    ok, on this page is this...

    xbill | Get rid of those Wingdows Viruses!
    wingdows... hehehe... well i found it funny...

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    [ What topic ? (scratch_nut.png) ]


    Yes, i used Xbill to set my fonts right in RH v5.0. It was invaluable at the time .

    Funny game too, hehe



    jm

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    yeah... i played alittle... then me bro kicked me off :'(

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    a quick Q... ok, in lilo... if i want to make windows the default to boot (to make me family happy), do i edit the /etc/lib.conf and change it to "windows"?? or what do i put??

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    Howdy ...

    Hope the below isn't to much ...



    /etc/lilo.conf


    Code:
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    # /etc/lilo.conf - See: `lilo(8)' and `lilo.conf(5)',
    # ---------------       `install-mbr(8)', `/usr/share/doc/lilo/',
    #                       and `/usr/share/doc/mbr/'.
    
    #Globals: apply globally unless specifically over-ridden
    
    
    lba32
    
    # Overrides the default mapping between harddisk names
    # and the BIOS' harddisk order. Use with caution.
    
    #disk=/dev/hde
    #    bios=0x81
    
    #disk=/dev/sda
    #    bios=0x80
    
    
    
    # Device where Lilo installs its boot block. I put my 1st stage on the primary-extended ... not the mbr
    
    boot=/dev/hda1
    
    
    # default root device
    root=/dev/hdb6
    
    
    # location of map file, really /dev/hdb1
    
    map=/boot/.map
    
    
    delay=300
    read-only
    message=/boot/bootmess.txt
    prompt
    timeout=250
    single-key
    vga=normal
    
    # the default that will boot if nothing is selected
    
    default=lin   <----------- Your looking for this !
    
    
    image=/boot/bzImage-2.6.10-ck7-Athlon64-2
      label=lin
      read-only
      alias=1
    
    
    # what i actual choose
    
    image=/boot/bzImage-2.6.10-ck7-Athlon64-4
      label=lin64-4
      read-only
      append="cpufreq.debug=4"
      alias=4
    
    .
    .
    etc
    .
    .
    .
    
    
    # windows b: aka OSR2
    
    other=/dev/hda1
    #  map-drive=0x80 to=0x81
    #  map-drive=0x81 to=0x80
      table=/dev/hda
      label="dos"
      alias=8
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Just change the "default=" option to point at the windows label and that will boot if nothing else is selected.

    If that field is left out, or is blank ... then the first on the list will boot.

    Use the "other=" option for any none linux OSes.

    You need to have the partitions that contain kernels mounted to update the map file, only for linux systems. If all the kernels reside in the one boot partition then that would be the only one needed.

    Kernels don't need to be on the root partition. And when/if they need to be mounted it doesn't matter where, for the map files update that is. Lilo will use the file system to trace down the correct disk locations.

    You must run lilo as root to update that file after a config change.

    Using the "-t" switch is good for a test-run, and "-v" switch is good for extra info.

    Latest version always recommended.


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    ... then me bro kicked me off :'(
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    (grin)



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    IDEA!! BIG BIG BIG IDEA!!! JUST THOUGHT OF JUST THEN!!

    thanks...

    ok to the idea... i have an idea for knoppix... i think its great, but what you think, well... it could be different...

    I was reading me APC magizine, when i came across this section for businesses, and it said something about cheap software, and so on and so on... back to me idea... It got me thinking...

    some small business' are really small, and they are loosing most of their money because of expensive software like windows, and microsoft office, and updating security so their company can be protected... it got me thinking... why dont we creat another knoppix directed at business... It could be called "Knoppix- Bused" Bused standing for Business Edition... it could be directed directly at business...

    for example, it could be smalled then the knoppix is right now, knowing that many small business' have 2nd hand computers, which are slow and that, and a live cd being on a slow computer... well, we all know it isnt that fun... well, it could be very light, so light we could (if we really wanted to), squeeze it under 200Mb if we wanted to... (they could if they wanted to, load on extra features later on, like games, Xservers, the stuff which dont really apply to people who dont know many shortcuts, etc). It would have what business' need, exactly what they need, like a Quickbook equivalent, OpenOffice... a firewall (all small business' think the only way to be safe, is to have a firewall... ), etc... but yes there is a catch...

    WE HAVE TO MAKE IT UltrA USER FRIENDLY!!! big icons, saying... OPEN OFFICE! Word processing...

    people wont use software if they dont know how to use it... we need to pritty much, get rid of the learning curve... we need to make it so, that these business people (i am assuming that they know how to use M word), can look directly at OpenOffice and be able to use it without needing to have lessons or anything... We would pritty much need to dumb down everything! <--i know, it will be a sad sad day... this might mean getting rid of the boot screen and have a GUI screen, where you have buttons where you get to choose several options like "Trial CD", "CHoose Desktop" or "Install TO HD"...

    and we have to make it look like its a business desktop, at the same time, try to make it able to make it personal...

    well... i could elaborate on it, but right now... i should edit lilo... i will post more, but please... EVERYBODY!! post what you think... btw, we could still have the original version of knoppix still running... it would be much like XP home, and XP Profesional... but with a better OS.

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    i know i am not making much sense.... but i will, once i have had time pondering the thought and me own words... so bear with me right now... i will do it...


    for the lilo...

    Code:
    vga=791
    # /etc/lilo.conf - See: `lilo(8)' and `lilo.conf(5)',
    # ---------------       `install-mbr(8)', `/usr/share/doc/lilo/',
    #                       and `/usr/share/doc/mbr/'.
    
    # +---------------------------------------------------------------+
    # |                        !! Reminder !!                         |
    # |                                                               |
    # | Don't forget to run `lilo' after you make changes to this     |
    # | conffile, `/boot/bootmess.txt', or install a new kernel.  The |
    # | computer will most likely fail to boot if a kernel-image      |
    # | post-install script or you don't remember to run `lilo'.      |
    # |                                                               |
    # +---------------------------------------------------------------+
    
    # Support LBA for large hard disks.
    #
    lba32
    
    # Overrides the default mapping between harddisk names and the BIOS'
    # harddisk order. Use with caution.
    #disk=/dev/hde
    #    bios=0x81
    
    #disk=/dev/sda
    #    bios=0x80
    
    # Specifies the boot device.  This is where Lilo installs its boot
    # block.  It can be either a partition, or the raw device, in which
    # case it installs in the MBR, and will overwrite the current MBR.
    #
    boot=/dev/hda
    
    # Specifies the device that should be mounted as root. (`/')
    #
    root=/dev/hda2
    
    # Enable map compaction:
    # Tries to merge read requests for adjacent sectors into a single
    # read request. This drastically reduces load time and keeps the
    # map smaller.  Using `compact' is especially recommended when
    # booting from a floppy disk.  It is disabled here by default
    # because it doesn't always work.
    #
    # compact
    
    # Installs the specified file as the new boot sector
    # You have the choice between: bmp, compat, menu and text
    # Look in /boot/ and in lilo.conf(5) manpage for details
    #
    install=/boot/boot-menu.b
    
    # Specifies the location of the map file
    #
    map=/boot/map
    
    # You can set a password here, and uncomment the `restricted' lines
    # in the image definitions below to make it so that a password must
    # be typed to boot anything but a default configuration.  If a
    # command line is given, other than one specified by an `append'
    # statement in `lilo.conf', the password will be required, but a
    # standard default boot will not require one.
    #
    # This will, for instance, prevent anyone with access to the
    # console from booting with something like `Linux init=/bin/sh',
    # and thus becoming `root' without proper authorization.
    #
    # Note that if you really need this type of security, you will
    # likely also want to use `install-mbr' to reconfigure the MBR
    # program, as well as set up your BIOS to disallow booting from
    # removable disk or CD-ROM, then put a password on getting into the
    # BIOS configuration as well.  Please RTFM `install-mbr(8)'.
    #
    # password=tatercounter2000
    
    # Specifies the number of deciseconds (0.1 seconds) LILO should
    # wait before booting the first image.
    #
    delay=30
    
    # You can put a customized boot message up if you like.  If you use
    # `prompt', and this computer may need to reboot unattended, you
    # must specify a `timeout', or it will sit there forever waiting
    # for a keypress.  `single-key' goes with the `alias' lines in the
    # `image' configurations below.  eg: You can press `1' to boot
    # `Linux', `2' to boot `LinuxOLD', if you uncomment the `alias'.
    #
    message=/boot/bootmess.txt
    prompt
    timeout=150
    #	prompt
    #	single-key
    #	delay=100
    #	timeout=100
    
    # Kernel command line options that apply to all installed images go
    # here.  See: The `boot-prompt-HOWO' and `kernel-parameters.txt' in
    # the Linux kernel `Documentation' directory.
    #
    # append=""
    append="hda=scsi hdb=scsi hdc=scsi hdd=scsi hde=scsi hdf=scsi hdg=scsi hdh=scsi apm=power-off nomce"
    
    # Boot up sexy Linux by default.
    #
    default=Windows
    
    image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.24-xfs
    	label=Linux
    	initrd=/boot/initrd.gz
    	read-only
    
    image=/vmlinuz.old
    	label=LinuxOLD
    	read-only
    	optional
    #	restricted
    #	alias=2
    
    # i didnt write anything bad here...
    # If you have another OS on this machine to boot, you can uncomment the 
    # following lines, changing the device name on the `other' line to
    # where your other OS' partition is.
    #
    # other=/dev/hda4
    #	label=HURD
    #	restricted
    #	alias=3
    other=/dev/hda1
    .	label=Windows
    thats what i have now... hopefully it will work...

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