About bootloader

[satimis]

Hi folks,

LiveCD 4.0.2

I can't find the bootloader "grub" and its menu.lst

# find / -name menu.lst

/ramdisk/home/knoppix/tmp/menu.lst
/UNIONFS/home/knoppix/tmp/menu.lst

# find / -name grub -type d

/KNOPPIX/lib/grub
/KNOPPIX/usr/share/doc/grub
/UNIONFS/lib/grub
/UNIONFS/usr/share/doc/grub

They seem to be documents. Where does "Grub" reside?

Please advise. TIA

B.R.
satimis

[dvryknopper]

ls -l /boot/grub

[satimis]

Hi dvryknopper,

Tks for your advice.

# ls -l /media/cdrom1/boot/

total 2
dr-xr-xr-x  2 root root 2048 Aug 22  2005 isolinux

# ls -l /media/cdrom1/boot/isolinux/

total 2569
-r--r--r--  1 root root    2048 Sep 24  2005 boot.cat
-r--r--r--  1 root root     140 Sep 24  2005 boot.msg
-r--r--r--  1 root root    1591 Sep 24  2005 f2
-r--r--r--  1 root root    1675 Sep 24  2005 f3
-r--r--r--  1 root root     256 Jan 11  2004 german.kbd
-r--r--r--  1 root root    9856 Sep 24  2005 isolinux.bin
-r--r--r--  1 root root    2119 Sep 24  2005 isolinux.cfg
-r--r--r--  1 root root 1565429 Sep 24  2005 linux
-r--r--r--  1 root root   78193 Sep 24  2005 logo.16
-r--r--r--  1 root root   99784 Jun 27  2005 memtest
-r--r--r--  1 root root  865884 Sep 24  2005 minirt.gz

grub is not there.

B.R.
satimis

[maxIT]

satimis I guess you're a bit confused. Are you looking for the program 'grub'(the binary)? Type 'whereis grub'.
menu.lst is just the main grub config file created in the /boot/grub' directory after a regular install, and you would never find it in the live cd.

[satimis]

Hi maxIT

Tks for your advice.

Type 'whereis grub'

I got it

$ whereis grub

grub: /sbin/grub /lib/grub /usr/share/man/man8/grub.8.gz

After having succeeded installing Knoppix on pendrive using syslinux as bootloader. I'm prepared installing it again, this time, using grub as bootloader running the pendrive as Hard Drive

I have a 1G pendrive (Avixe Platinum Drive) created with 3 partitons.
# fdisk -l /dev/sda

Disk /dev/sda: 1007 MB, 1007419392 bytes
31 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1023 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1922 * 512 = 984064 bytes

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1         260      249829    6  FAT16
/dev/sda2             261         990      701530   83  Linux
/dev/sda3             991        1023       31713   83  Linux

Partition-1 /boot
Partition-2 for Knoppix (actually DSL)
Partition-3 spare

I cant' run
# grub-install /mnt/sda1
because of different FS, FAT16 and ext2

So I ran follows manually;
# mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
# mkdir /mnt/sda1/boot
# mkdir /mnt/sda1/boot/grub

copied following files from /lib/grub/i386-pc/ on /mnt/sda1/boot/grub/
stage1
stage2
fat_stage1_5

Then
# echo abc > /mnt/sda1/myusb
# touch /mnt/sda1/boot/grub/menu.lst

Afterwards copied "linux24" and "minirt24.gz" from DSL LiveCD (Knoppix on pendrive using DSL) on
/mnt/sda1/boot/

The files installed were as follows;
# ls -ls /mnt/sda1

total 8
4 drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 Mar 25 17:28 boot
4 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root    4 Mar 25 17:30 myusb

# ls -ls /mnt/sda1/boot/

total 1856
  4 drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    4096 Mar 26 23:21 grub
984 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 1005209 Mar 25 17:28 linux24
868 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  888040 Mar 25 17:28 minirt24.gz

# ls -ls /mnt/sda1/boot/grub/

total 120
  8 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   7684 Mar 25 17:12 fat_stage1_5
  4 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root    280 Mar 25 17:24 menu_fc3.lst
  4 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root    512 Mar 25 17:12 stage1
104 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 103816 Mar 25 17:12 stage2

The setup of the menu.lst was as follows;

color cyan/blue yellow/blue
default 0
timeout 20

root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/linux24 ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init
apm=power-off toram dma nomce noapic quiet knoppix_dir=DSL lng=us
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/minirt24.gz

Then
# cd /mnt/sda1
and ran
# grub

Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.

GNU GRUB version 0.95 (640K lower / 3072K upper memory)

[ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word,
TAB
lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the
possible
completions of a device/filename.]

grub> find /myusb
(hd1,0)

grub> root (hd1,0)

Filesystem type is fat, partition type 0x6

grub> setup (hd1,0)

Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes
Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes
Checking if "/boot/grub/fat_stage1_5" exists... yes
Running "embed /boot/grub/fat_stage1_5 (hd1,0)"... failed (this is not
fatal)
Running "embed /boot/grub/fat_stage1_5 (hd1,0)"... failed (this is not
fatal)
Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd1,0) /boot/grub/stage2 p
/boot/grub/grub.conf "... succeeded
Done.

But I can't find file /boo/grub/grub.conf there.

grub> quit

Then umount /mnt/sda1 and /mnt/cdrom

Rebooted PC but the BIOS can't detect the pendrive, having used 1st boot options as;
USB-HDD/USB-ZIP/USB-FDD/etc.

I did not know what mistake committed.

Any advice would be appreciated. TIA

B.R.
satimis