Cant get Knoppix to boot

[NeCh]

Hi.
I have a ntfs (0x24) on my computer. I have surfed around on the net an di found that alot of people have used Knoppix to fix this problem.
I have downloaded the latest version of Knoppix and verifide the check sum and burnt it slow (4X). When i insert the cd and it boots up i press enter to boot Knoppix but in the boot sequens it stopps and says Can't find KNOPPIX filesystem dropping to a (very limited) shell or something. what's the problem and how do i fix it. I realy need to get my computer running again

Thanks
//nehm

[jjmac]

Howdy,

>>
I have a ntfs (0x24) on my computer. I have surfed around on the net an di found that alot of people have used Knoppix to fix this problem.
>>

Not relevant to booting a cdrom/dvd.

As for 'this problem' ... what kind of problem, aside from booting the disc ?

>>
latest version ...
>>

To save having to look to see what the latest version is , do you mean version '5.0.1' ?

In any case, there should be a file called 'version' on the disc. It will have the full version and build date for the iso. Could you post that to verify the exact version/build you mean.

In the mean time key F1, F2 and/or F3 and read over the options/etc. Along with the disc docs/cheatcodes.txt. And try one of the targets. Your system may have some quirk that might be worked around in that way.

What is your system/box etc.

>>
ntfs
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Assuming XP, but assumptions are problems in themselves

Fuller info may get a better response/solution happening.


Good Luck


jm

[Novice]

Hi, this looks like the ideal thread to post this.

I and at least one other have the same issue booting knoppix on an Abit ab9-pro (intel 965) using a jmicron SATA controller.
As the name suggests I am a linux novice and only use Knoppix as a data recovery tool so keep it simple please.


In response to the ntfs (0x24) error.

ntfs.sys ?

If so I had the exact same problem on a Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 a few days ago. It turned out to be a damaged master boot record (mbr). I had to resort to using a win98 boot floppy and fdisk /mbr. Windows setup would crash with the error above before allowing me into the console otherwise i would have used fixmbr. After that windows was fine.

[marhleet]

on the computer trying to boot into linux , is it a slightly older model cd-rom drive ?
older in age cd-roms will have some more difficulty reading newer cd-rw discs

on the computer burning the "to be booted" linux disc, is it a dvd writer or a cdrw writer
i've not had any luck with the three dvd burners i have access to to get a cd burnt correctly
it doesn't work properly. explains the not finding the knoppix file, it's not reaable for some reason.
i've had this with music cd's, linux boot cds ....
after using a cd-rw, and slow, it works fine

[Novice]

Thanks for the response but I doubt (in my case as the drive is not that old) its a DVD/RW drive issue. its more likely to be an issue with Knoppix not recognizing the new hardware on my motherboard. (well thats my guess)

[marhleet]

you downloaded an iso
the cd or the dvd iso ?
you didn't say

when you burnt it real slow, did you burn the cd iso on a dvd burner
read my previous reply

what is the cd device in the new computer ?
again, if it can't find the Knoppix filesystem (or actually, i think it says something close but not quite that) it's because the cd hasn't been written correctly and it can't read the info it needs from the cd drive
so your new hardware has no connection with knopiix working or not
the issue you have is you can't read the cd disc you have burnt

( I'm starting to like Harry Kuhman's answers. )
( and much as I like to quote RTFM, i also do like RTFQ, but in this case, it's RTFA !! )

[Novice]

I created a CD from the CD ISO on my DVD drive and that combination has booted knoppix before on my old pc. (i have also used the CD on a number of machines without problems)

I recently upgraded to a new machine and the only things that are in it from the old build are the DVD drive and one hard disk. The rest is new Core2 Duo based stuff which is why I think its an issue with new hardware.

Im guessing that the filesystem is at least temporaly written somewhere on the hard disk ? If so the problem could be either in the reading from CD or the creation on the hard drive. Either way it needs to go through the Jmicron controller and Intels new 965 chipset.


[edit ]

It seems to be fairly common. Taken from bug report page on the main site :

16) I use a working CD (tested on other computers). On my computer, Knoppix stops
with the message "can't find KNOPPIX filesystem, sorry, dropping you to a (very
limited) shell..", just as the bug 15 of Knoppix 5.0DVD. Anyway the boot option
nodma does not make things work. I have found no workaround. I have got a SATA
CDROM/DVD drive (Plextor 712SA).

[jjmac]

Novice wrote

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In response to the ntfs (0x24) error.

ntfs.sys ?
>>


Just to point out, there was no ntfs error involved. The poster was just thinking it may have had something to do with the cd not booting.


The things that can do this involve

# bios problems
# burning to quickly
# not fixing the burn
# a corrupted down loaded iso image
# using a remastered, but also corrupted iso image
# the tool/configuration used to do the burning. Incorrect or insufficient configuration.

It seems that sometimes the '-pad' option is advised, as it aligns the burnt sectors better by pading incomplete sectors out to their boundaries. Which if not done, in some cases, can cause the boot process to be unable to find a trailing file on a disc track.

If the board is recent then the bios should have the required support.

But, as mentioned above, you need to give people some more complete info to work with.

# make and model of c/dvd device
# tool used to do the burning
# its' configuration.

Can you run it as a 'dummy' run. Does it keep a log that can be scrutinised as would 'cdrecord' if asked.

The tool used to burn and the drive it self, if that info is provided, then some one is more likely to be able to home in on a solution.

Otherwise it just becomes wasted rotational quess work


jm

[benny_mott]

if you just want to repair windows XP
try :
UBCD4WIN
it is also free downoad and make an ISO and then burn it to CD
PS you need windows XP cd (one with SP2 or slipstreamed with SP2
if you you do not have XP cd slipStreamed
then go to Microsoft web site down load server 2003 R2(trial version ofcourse!!!:P )
and use that CD to make a UBCD4win for windows

not as versatile as Knoppix but a very good effort
originally made by computer genius BART
Regards Ben

[Nemoe]

I had this problem and solved it.

Read:
http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtop...=109468#109468