Knoppix KDE CVS

**eadz** · 05-20-2003, 06:50 AM

The idea has been talked about on the kde-promo mailing list to have a version of knoppix with the latest version of KDE CVS. KDE 3.2 has been in development since the begining of this year, and it would be cool to see 5 months worth of development work.

So, 10 brownie points to someone who makes a Knoppix KDE CVS version

Tip 1 : I'm not sure if konstructor works with CVS or 3.1 or both. If it does compile the cvs version, that would make it pretty easy.

Tip 2: distcc

I don't really have time to do this at the moment, as I think last time I compiled KDE it took about 2 days ( not all non-stop ). This would suit someone with a cluster ( or access to a room full of pc's ).

**aay** · 05-20-2003, 07:16 AM

Hmm, interesting idea. One way to go (if you have access to a room full of machiens) is to use ClusterKnoppix to help out with the compiling.

On another note, has anyone used Konstruct to keep KDE updated? Sounds like a nice tool, but I have not had the chance to use it myself.

**eadz** · 05-20-2003, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by aay

Hmm, interesting idea. One way to go (if you have access to a room full of machiens) is to use ClusterKnoppix to help out with the compiling.

On another note, has anyone used Konstruct to keep KDE updated? Sounds like a nice tool, but I have not had the chance to use it myself.

On the first note, you can use distcc without clusterknoppix, and is probally easier & faster.

I have used konstruct to compile kde, and basicly, it's the easiest way to compile KDE. Doesn't mean it's that easy though, just easier with it than without it.

**aay** · 05-20-2003, 07:25 AM

Wow that was a fast reply. To tell you the truth I have not looked at all at distcc but going to the site right now it looks nice....really nice with their "30 second instructions" for getting it going.

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distcc should be on knoppix!
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It is! should have looked fisrt.
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**Fabianx** · 05-25-2003, 02:37 PM

To get back to the subject.

Heh, it's already possible to use the Kde 3.2-CVS with debian-packages.

A repository is here: http://oberlin.cems.umn.edu/kdecvs/debian/

Help how to install is here: http://opendoorsoftware.com/cgi/http...kdecvs;frame=1

cu

Fabian

**orth** · 05-25-2003, 06:33 PM

Hi it's me orth, maintainer of the debian kde cvs packages. I would say I am 80% of the way done my first kde cvs knoppix cd. I have some menu cleaning up to do and some package removals, but I'm still not a remastering pro. If someone who is would like to work together with me, please let me know what sort of help I could give them with respect to my packages.

Cheers,
James

**probono** · 05-25-2003, 09:31 PM

Is there any way to install these (=KDE CVS) debian packages into a separate directory, preferrably in ~/kdecvs (without touching my current KDE)? Of course, dependencies should be also installed to ~/kdecvs subdirectories. Is that posible?

(I like to play around with alphas and betas, but I don't want to screw my machine...)

**orth** · 05-26-2003, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by probono

Is there any way to install these (=KDE CVS) debian packages into a separate directory, preferrably in ~/kdecvs (without touching my current KDE)? Of course, dependencies should be also installed to ~/kdecvs subdirectories. Is that posible?

(I like to play around with alphas and betas, but I don't want to screw my machine...)

Unfortunately, no, this is like asking if you can run both woody and sid on your system. Once I finish remastering a fairly stable knoppix kde cvs iso, this will give you the opportunity to "play around" at least.

I should also mention that downgrading from my debs is not so bad, I've taken large steps to make removal of my debs easy... apt-get remove kde-cvs-snapshot takes care of all this. But I'd like to think you'd never need a reason to go back. These debian packages are quite stable, the only unstable things are usually new features that you don't even have in KDE 3.1 anyway. But as always, your mileage may vary.

**probono** · 05-27-2003, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by orth

this is like asking if you can run both woody and sid on your system.

Which would be, by the way, an excellent idea! Have both versions of the libs installed and the apps would pick the old or new one based on what they need. Sorry if this sounds ridiculous, but this whole forking is the most annoying part of debian, especially because the forks are not binary compatible. Hate Windows or not, but at least most apps run on most recent flavors of the OS. (Again, sorry if this sounds naive. But it's my frank opinion.)

If it's not posible to "mix" versions, it should at least be possible to install into seperate directories, along with all dependencies!

**Stephen** · 05-27-2003, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by probono

Originally Posted by orth

this is like asking if you can run both woody and sid on your system.

Which would be, by the way, an excellent idea! Have both versions of the libs installed and the apps would pick the old or new one based on what they need. Sorry if this sounds ridiculous, but this whole forking is the most annoying part of debian, especially because the forks are not binary compatible. Hate Windows or not, but at least most apps run on most recent flavors of the OS. (Again, sorry if this sounds naive. But it's my frank opinion.)

If it's not posible to "mix" versions, it should at least be possible to install into seperate directories, along with all dependencies!

Take a look a Gobo Linux it does what you would like to try to do.