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    Can't find knoppix filesystem, sorry.

    What a polite error message, but annoying none-the-less.

    I used DSL's tool to create a bootable usbkey. I plugged it into my fairly new Dell Precision 670 and it appears to boot until it gets to the dreaded "can't find knoppix filesystem, sorry". I have the image on a 2.0 gb Lexar USB drive. I tried typing "dsl nodma" as well as a bunch of other commands to try to get this to work, but nothing has so far. The harddrives in this machine are connected via SATA. (Not SCSI or IDE). I tried booting off of the cd and it worked fine on the same machine.

    Does anyone have any clue as to why this isnt working?

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    cant find file system

    I have the same problem booting V5.0.1 from CD :
    Accessing KNOPPIX CD at /dev/hdc....cdrom/KNOPPIX/modules/insmod : 1 : syntax error : word unexpected (expecting ")" )

    implies insmod is corrupt.
    You might try replacing the file.

    This is my very first try at Linux.
    It is likely to be my very last try too.

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    Dave, since you are trying to boot from a disc rather than a USB device, you don't have the same problem. This error is frequently seen from corrupt downloads, bad optical disc readers, dma problems and most of all high speed burns. I have never been able to get a flash drive to boot though, so I can't say what Snifro's problem is.
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    Re: Can't find knoppix filesystem, sorry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snifro
    What a polite error message, but annoying none-the-less.

    I used DSL's tool to create a bootable usbkey. I plugged it into my fairly new Dell Precision 670 and it appears to boot until it gets to the dreaded "can't find knoppix filesystem, sorry". I have the image on a 2.0 gb Lexar USB drive. I tried typing "dsl nodma" as well as a bunch of other commands to try to get this to work, but nothing has so far. The harddrives in this machine are connected via SATA. (Not SCSI or IDE). I tried booting off of the cd and it worked fine on the same machine.

    Does anyone have any clue as to why this isnt working?
    Might be the USB key. I had a similar problem, in my case DSL would boot the first time after I loaded it onto the key. If I shutdown or rebooted, and then tried to boot again I got the error message. I ended up using an old 256mb mp3 player since I have an ipod, and found that I could use it without ever encountering the error.

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    re can't find knoppix file system sorry

    Thanks Harry.

    I have wasted 6 CD-Rs by not doing the burn properly.
    I have now done 2 proper burns that actually initiate the boot,
    one at 8x and one at 4x on a CyberDrv CB511D Combo 130A, which is rated for 24x,
    on CD-R and CD-RW using CDBurnerXP Pro 3.0.116
    They both fail in the same user-unfriendly way - expecting ")" in modules/insmod

    Yes, I suppose the hard drive copy taken from a PCWorld DVD might be corrupt,
    or the DVD itself might have been corrupt,
    or there could have been an error in the master copy ...
    But oh, do I have to go back and do it all again ?
    This is so frustrating.
    From zero to LINUX in 5 minutes - ha ha ha

    I don't think I'll bother.
    By the look of those error messages, this is not going to be a user-friendly experience.

    Dave

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    Re: re can't find knoppix file system sorry

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveKimble
    Yes, I suppose the hard drive copy taken from a PCWorld DVD might be corrupt,
    or the DVD itself might have been corrupt,
    or there could have been an error in the master copy ...
    But oh, do I have to go back and do it all again ?
    I have no idea what this means. "the hard drive copy taken from a PCWorld DVD", what is that saying? If you have a magazine DVD, does that boot? My advice is to read the downloading faq and use BitTorrent to get a good ISO, confirm the download with an md5 test, and burn the disc slowly as an image as explained in the downloading faq (sounds like you are at least burning as an image since you do get into the boot process somewhat). Of course, if you have an ISO file there is no reason to download another, just do the md5 check to confirm it's validity. And use a 700 meg cdrw or a DVD/rw media to aviod any wasted discs.
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    bad U.S. iso images

    I'm having the same problem. 2 different U.S.A. sites, the last one being -> http://archive.cs.stedwards.edu/knop...6-06-01-EN.iso

    and 7 coasters later, I am unable to get a good knoppix 5.0.1 cdrom out of this deal.

    This kinda sucks big time

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    Re: bad U.S. iso images

    Quote Originally Posted by mailman42
    I'm having the same problem. 2 different U.S.A. sites, ...and 7 coasters later, I am unable to get a good knoppix 5.0.1 cdrom out of this deal.
    I've had problems from the mirrors also, but your post suggests that you have not read the downloading faq or are ignoring the help it offers: Use BitTorrent rather than a mirror for a reliable download. Always do the md5 check on the iso before burning; there is no good reason to waste even one cd let alone 7 on bad ISOs, the md5 test will tell you if the download is good or not.
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    Re: re can't find knoppix file system sorry

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveKimble
    Thanks Harry.

    I have wasted 6 CD-Rs by not doing the burn properly.
    I have now done 2 proper burns that actually initiate the boot,
    one at 8x and one at 4x on a CyberDrv CB511D Combo 130A, which is rated for 24x,
    on CD-R and CD-RW using CDBurnerXP Pro 3.0.116
    is that a DVD/cd-rw combo ?
    I haven't got a dvd burner to burn a cd properly
    but i can get it to work using a plain cd-rw
    not sure where the problem is but I know how to work around it ....

    also, I took my almost working 100% properly 48x cd drive with me today
    and it booted up the knoppix cd, ok
    but i couldn't get the install to work
    using a different cd-rw July 2001 drive, it worked straight through

    hence, the part from Harry about cd opticals .....
    old drives can't read cd-rw media well, though you said cd-r.
    can you get a cd-rw drive ?

    I've updated the firmware on my dvd burners, but haven't needed to try them yet .....

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    Re: re can't find knoppix file system sorry

    Quote Originally Posted by marhleet
    is that a DVD/cd-rw combo ?
    I haven't got a dvd burner to burn a cd properly
    but i can get it to work using a plain cd-rw
    Just to avoid any fear uncertainty and doubt, I can burn CDs just fine on my DVD/CD combo drive (BenQ DVD 1620) and I've heard no other reports of others having any problem doing it either. Nero 6 does insist on burning the CD at 8x on this drive, even though it will burn at 4x on my Lite-on CD drive, and other burning software will burn CDs at 4x on the BenQ combo drive. I usually use the Lite-on for Knoppix CDs since I want to burn them as low as I can, or use software other than Nero, but there is no universal problem in burning CDs on a combo drive. If you are having problems it's most likely a hardware problem (even dirty optics) on that drive.

    Quote Originally Posted by marhleet
    hence, the part from Harry about cd opticals .....
    old drives can't read cd-rw media well, though you said cd-r.
    can you get a cd-rw drive ?
    Most old 1x CD drives could not read CD-RW, they lacked the automatic gain control needed to compensate for the lower contrast of CD-RW media. Pretty much any newer drive that ran faster than 1x should have the automatic gain logic and so, barring other hardware problems or dirty optics, should read CD-RW just fine. Because CD-RW does trigger extra signal amplification on any drive with automatic gain control, it may behave differently in a marginal drive than CDR. I actually had one old 6x drive that lost it's ability to read CDR, but it could still write and read CD-RW just fine thanks to the extra gain used for those discs. I certainly wouldn't advocate using such a marginal drive for any burns intended for long term backup, but this does demonstrate to me that it's worth trying CD-RW when an optical problem is suspected with CDR. It's also smart to use CD-RW when you can anyway, particularly for Knoppix, I have a lot of old Knoppix CDs that I'll never use again just taking up space in a case; and I've prevented wasting a lot more by switching to CD-RW (and DVD+RW) for most burns.

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