Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: for those without bootable cd

  1. #1
    Guest

    for those without bootable cd

    For the people struggeling to get knoppix to boot, try: http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/
    It's a bootmanager (bootloader?) that is capable of booting from most cd drives, independant from the bios.

    (certain disk/drive combinations meight require giving the boot command twice)

    Perhaps an option to include it on an easy-reachable directory on knoppix (arrive at non-cd-bootable windows machine, get the tool from knoppix-cd, install it on a floppy/hdd, boot knoppix)

  2. #2
    Senior Member registered user
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Long Island, NY, USA
    Posts
    1,256

    Re: for those without bootable cd

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous
    For the people struggeling to get knoppix to boot, try: http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/
    It's a bootmanager (bootloader?) that is capable of booting from most cd drives, independant from the bios.
    So, are you talking about a bootloader which manages a dual boot? Or are you talking about a way to boot from the CDROM without a boot disk on machines that can't boot CDs? If its not the dual boot, you have just answered my prayers!

    Thanx

  3. #3
    Senior Member registered user
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Auckland, New Zealand
    Posts
    818
    That looks very interesting, esp as my laptop wont boot from cdrom anymore

    of course you can always
    dd if=/cdrom/KNOPPIX/boot.img of=/dev/fd0
    to make a boot floppy that will then boot the Knoppix cd, but that boot manager will eliminate that step

  4. #4
    Senior Member registered user
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Long Island, NY, USA
    Posts
    1,256
    Quote Originally Posted by eadz
    of course you can always
    dd if=/cdrom/KNOPPIX/boot.img of=/dev/fd0
    to make a boot floppy that will then boot the Knoppix cd, but that boot manager will eliminate that step
    Yes, but I thought this would give me a boot floppy with more space on it to save my work. I went to btmgr.sourceforge.net and it claimed to only use 30KB on the boot disk and to find just about any bootable device. Well it boted my cdrom drive where is wasn't bootable before, but it filled the boot disk with tons of gibberish leaving little room for data.

    I want to be able to use KNOPPIX on some old machines where the harddisks are unreliable, so we boot from disk, run off cd and save to the same disk. I used rawrite to create a boot disk from boot-en.img, but this leaves only about 50KB on the disk for data!

    Regards

  5. #5
    Senior Member registered user
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Long Island, NY, USA
    Posts
    1,256
    Quote Originally Posted by eadz
    of course you can always
    dd if=/cdrom/KNOPPIX/boot.img of=/dev/fd0
    to make a boot floppy that will then boot the Knoppix cd, but that boot manager will eliminate that step
    Yes, but I thought this would give me a boot floppy with more space on it to save my work. I went to btmgr.sourceforge.net and it claimed to only use 30KB on the boot disk and to find just about any bootable device. Well it boted my cdrom drive where is wasn't bootable before, but it filled the boot disk with tons of gibberish leaving little room for data.

    I want to be able to use KNOPPIX on some old machines where the harddisks are unreliable, so we boot from disk, run off cd and save to the same disk. I used rawrite to create a boot disk from boot-en.img, but this leaves only about 50KB on the disk for data!

    Regards

  6. #6
    Member registered user
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    79
    Yes, but I thought this would give me a boot floppy with more space on it to save my work. I went to btmgr.sourceforge.net and it claimed to only use 30KB on the boot disk and to find just about any bootable device. Well it boted my cdrom drive where is wasn't bootable before, but it filled the boot disk with tons of gibberish leaving little room for data.

    I want to be able to use KNOPPIX on some old machines where the harddisks are unreliable, so we boot from disk, run off cd and save to the same disk. I used rawrite to create a boot disk from boot-en.img, but this leaves only about 50KB on the disk for data!

    Regards
    If you want more data on a floppy - why don't you just put in another blank floppy?? After all, the boot diskette is just to get the CD-Rom running after that you don't need it!

    regards
    rob

  7. #7
    Senior Member registered user
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Long Island, NY, USA
    Posts
    1,256
    Yes, but I thought this would give me a boot
    If you want more data on a floppy - why don't you just put in another blank floppy?? After all, the boot diskette is just to get the CD-Rom running after that you don't need it!
    regards
    rob
    OK, this is what my students are doing now. Its annoying with 11 students each juggling 3 disks (1 CD and 2 floppies). It's workable but what about next semester when I have a total of 53 kids in 3 classes?

    I'd much rather have it down to 1 cd and 1 floppy per student!

    Next year, with new machines finally, I'll just knx-hdinstall KNOPPIX on each machine thereby obviating all 3 disks. This will also allow me to install SDK for linux 1.4.1 (javac, et al) from www.sun.com for my new AP Computer Science class!

    Regards

  8. #8
    Senior Member registered user
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    USA, IL
    Posts
    1,041
    --Forgive me for saying this, but I find it hard to believe that you are actually a "Teacher and Professor [of] Applied Math and CompSci".

    --You don't *have* to save to the boot floppy. Swap it out after the CD boots Ok.

    --To initialize a floppy:
    ' dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440k count=1 '
    ' mkdosfs /dev/fd0 '

    ' mkdir /mnt/floppy '
    ' mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy '
    ' cd /mnt/floppy '

    --Then write your data files to /mnt/floppy.

    Quote Originally Posted by A. Jorge Garcia
    Quote Originally Posted by eadz
    of course you can always
    dd if=/cdrom/KNOPPIX/boot.img of=/dev/fd0
    to make a boot floppy that will then boot the Knoppix cd, but that boot manager will eliminate that step
    Yes, but I thought this would give me a boot floppy with more space on it to save my work. I went to btmgr.sourceforge.net and it claimed to only use 30KB on the boot disk and to find just about any bootable device. Well it boted my cdrom drive where is wasn't bootable before, but it filled the boot disk with tons of gibberish leaving little room for data.

    I want to be able to use KNOPPIX on some old machines where the harddisks are unreliable, so we boot from disk, run off cd and save to the same disk. I used rawrite to create a boot disk from boot-en.img, but this leaves only about 50KB on the disk for data!

    Regards

  9. #9
    Senior Member registered user
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Long Island, NY, USA
    Posts
    1,256
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Bechtel
    --Forgive me for saying this, but I find it hard to believe that you are actually a "Teacher and Professor [of] Applied Math and CompSci"
    Believe what you wish. Why don't you just check my website?

    http://calcpage.tripod.com

    If that doesn't convince you, please note that I only recently moved my email and website addresses from

    calcpage@aol.com
    http://members.aol.com/calcpage

    because aol cannot filter out all the junk mail I was getting...

    Anyway, go on yahoo and search those addresses and you will see that I've been actively supporting, on the web, the Advanced Placement Calculus and Computer Science programs of the College Board for at least a decade now!

    As to the floppy problem, I have no problem using another floppy other than the boot disk to save my *.cc files. I just would like to have less disks to cart around from school to school, from class to class .....

    Regards

Similar Threads

  1. Help with bootable cd!
    By widget in forum General Support
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 11-18-2004, 10:47 AM
  2. PC doesn't detect any bootable CD-ROM
    By Benbread in forum General Support
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 04-11-2004, 02:22 AM
  3. Bootable Starcraft CD
    By Scythe in forum Customising & Remastering
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 07-13-2003, 07:09 PM
  4. Bootable UDF CD-RW possible?
    By infoMafia in forum Ideas
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-03-2003, 06:00 PM
  5. bootable floppy
    By o_corn in forum Customising & Remastering
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 03-10-2003, 10:30 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


IBM Power8 S822L Storage Server 8247-22L - With Ram, Some Cards, No HDD's picture

IBM Power8 S822L Storage Server 8247-22L - With Ram, Some Cards, No HDD's

$399.95



IBM SYSTEM X3500 M3 SERVER 7380AC1 2*XEON E5620 2.4GHz 8GB SEE NOTES picture

IBM SYSTEM X3500 M3 SERVER 7380AC1 2*XEON E5620 2.4GHz 8GB SEE NOTES

$33.21



IBM 8284-22A S822 Dual Power8 Cpu 512Gb (16x 32Gb) RAM  picture

IBM 8284-22A S822 Dual Power8 Cpu 512Gb (16x 32Gb) RAM

$795.00



IBM Lenovo X3650 M5 2U 8x 2.5” CTO Rack Server – 2x HS, 2x 750W picture

IBM Lenovo X3650 M5 2U 8x 2.5” CTO Rack Server – 2x HS, 2x 750W

$199.00



IBM Power S822 12-Bay Server System Power8 Core 3.42Ghz DVD-Rom Drive 64GB No HD picture

IBM Power S822 12-Bay Server System Power8 Core 3.42Ghz DVD-Rom Drive 64GB No HD

$399.99



IBM x3650 M4 2x Xeon E5-2670 2.6ghz 16-Core / 64GB / M5110e / 2x PSU picture

IBM x3650 M4 2x Xeon E5-2670 2.6ghz 16-Core / 64GB / M5110e / 2x PSU

$129.99



IBM Power S822 8284-22A 12SFF Power8 3.89GHz 6-Core 64GB RAM No Bezel/HDD Server picture

IBM Power S822 8284-22A 12SFF Power8 3.89GHz 6-Core 64GB RAM No Bezel/HDD Server

$359.99



IBM X3650 M5 5462-AC1,2 X E5-2640V3 2.6GHZ 8C, 16 GB, DUAL 750W, 2 X 1TB SERVER picture

IBM X3650 M5 5462-AC1,2 X E5-2640V3 2.6GHZ 8C, 16 GB, DUAL 750W, 2 X 1TB SERVER

$249.99



IBM System X3650 M4 Server, 2 x Xeon E5-2630 2.3Ghz 32GB RAM, 2 x 1.2 TB HDD picture

IBM System X3650 M4 Server, 2 x Xeon E5-2630 2.3Ghz 32GB RAM, 2 x 1.2 TB HDD

$132.46



IBM 8203 E4A p520 Server 8203-E4A 4.2GHz 2-Core POWER6 32GB RAM / NO HDD USED picture

IBM 8203 E4A p520 Server 8203-E4A 4.2GHz 2-Core POWER6 32GB RAM / NO HDD USED

$119.99