Reply With QuoteI'm sure you're right. Have you ever used v 6.2.x on this machine? If it works, then you can use the xorg.conf file (from /etc/X11/) from that to force the newer version to work, I think.Originally Posted by Ark42
Cheers!
Krishna
None of the following worked at all. All of them resulted in black screens forever.
I also tried knoppix nomodeset xmodule=svga but it's just the same as knoppix xmodule=svga -- It goes black for a few minutes, then eventually shows the X desktop.Code:knoppix nomodeset xmodule=nv knoppix nomodeset knoppix xmodule=nv knoppix xmodule=nouveau
"chvt 1" does what Ctrl+Alt+F1 does - goes to a black screen. I tried it just now after booting with xmodule=svga. I'm sure the issue is not with chvt but with the graphics driver somewhere.
I'm sure you're right. Have you ever used v 6.2.x on this machine? If it works, then you can use the xorg.conf file (from /etc/X11/) from that to force the newer version to work, I think.
Cheers!
Krishna
No, I only use Knoppix as a rescue/diagnose kit, so I only have 6.0.1 and now 6.4.3 downloaded and burned to a CD.
"xmodule=svga" is a sufficient work-around for me, as I only really need to get to a terminal usually.
I'm not interested in forcing 6.4.3 to work with a config file hack from an older version.
I am willing to help diagnose and test with my machine if it will help the official distribution support additional computer configurations automatically.
I've already solved my main actual problem (mount a GPT HFS+ partition, copy some data off of it), but I'll stick around and read this thread to see if there is any info I can provide that will help make 6.4.4+ work out of the box, in case other users see the same kind of black screen.
Thank you for your contribution! If you would please post your xorg.conf file and the result of a lspci command, along with the dmesg output, perhaps it would help to accomplish that purpose. I'm unlikely to make much of it personally, but it might help someone who's on a higher level than I to figure out what's what.
Cheers!
Krishna
xorg.conf
lcpciCode:# /etc/X11/xorg.conf # Created by KNOPPIX # Delete this line if you don't want KNOPPIX to overwrite your /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "XFree86 Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 # Since evdev, manual keyboard/mice entries are mostly ignored: # Keyboard auto-probed # Touchpad auto-probed # USB mouse auto-probed # Serial Mouse auto-probed ### AIGLX for compiz 3D-Support with DRI & Composite ### This option doesn't hurt even if it's not supported by the individual card Option "AIGLX" "true" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true" Option "DPMS" "true" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Speedo" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/PEX" # Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF... FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" # FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/latin2/75dpi" # FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/latin2/100dpi" # True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig! FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latex-ttf-fonts" EndSection Section "Module" # Comments: see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=346408 Load "dbe" # Double Buffering Extension, very important. Load "dri" # This shouldn't be available choice if user has selected driver vga, vesa or nv. Load "glx" # GLX Extension. Load "freetype" # Freetype fonts. Load "type1" # Type 1 fonts Load "record" # Developer extension, usually not needed Load "extmod" # This is okay, but if you look into "man xorg.conf" you'll find option NOT to include DGA extension with extmod, and for a good reason.. DGA causes instability as it accesses videoram without consulting X about it. SubSection "extmod" Option "omit xfree86-dga" EndSubSection # Load "speedo" # Speedo fonts, this module doesn't exist in Xorg 7.0.17 # The following are deprecated/unstable/unneeded in Xorg 7.0 # Load "ddc" # ddc probing of monitor, this should be never present, as it gets automatically loaded. # Load "GLcore" # This should be never present, as it gets automatically loaded. # Load "bitmap" # Should be never present, as it gets automatically loaded. This is a font module, and loading it in xorg.conf makes X try to load it twice. EndSection Section "Extensions" # compiz needs Composite, but it can cause bad (end even softreset-resistant) # effects in some graphics cards, especially nv. Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection # Monitor section auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxorgconfig Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" ModelName "Generic Monitor" # HorizSync 28.0 - 78.0 # Warning: This may fry very old Monitors # HorizSync 28.0 - 96.0 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors # VertRefresh 50.0 - 76.0 # Very conservative. May flicker. # VertRefresh 50.0 - 60.0 # Extreme conservative. Will flicker. TFT default. Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS,AUTO" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- # sw_cursor is needed for some ati and radeon cards #Option "sw_cursor" #Option "hw_cursor" #Option "NoAccel" #Option "ShowCache" #Option "ShadowFB" #Option "UseFBDev" #Option "Rotate" Identifier "Card0" # Driver (chipset) autodetect VendorName "All" BoardName "All" # BusID "PCI:1:0:0" # compiz, beryl 3D-Support with DRI & Composite Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true" Option "EnablePageFlip" "true" Option "TripleBuffer" "true" # Tweaks for the xorg 7.4 (otherwise broken) "intel" driver # Option "Tiling" "no" Option "Legacy3D" "false" # These two lines are (presumably) needed to prevent fonts from being scrambled Option "XaaNoScanlineImageWriteRect" "true" Option "XaaNoScanlineCPUToScreenColorExpandFill" "true" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true" Option "DisableGLXRootClipping" "true" SubSection "Display" Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 32 EndSubSection EndSection Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection
Code:00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Memory Controller (rev a1) 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 LPC Bridge (rev a2) 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SMBus (rev a2) 00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Memory Controller (rev a2) 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP55 USB Controller (rev a1) 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP55 USB Controller (rev a2) 00:04.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP55 IDE (rev a1) 00:05.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller (rev a2) 00:05.1 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller (rev a2) 00:05.2 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller (rev a2) 00:06.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI bridge (rev a2) 00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio (rev a2) 00:08.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2) 00:09.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2) 00:0a.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge (rev a2) 00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge (rev a2) 00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge (rev a2) 00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge (rev a2) 00:0f.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge (rev a2) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 01:08.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) 06:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G73 [GeForce 7600 GS] (rev a1)
dmesg
Code:ums-datafab [ 1.657427] usbcore: registered new interface driver ums-freecom [ 1.657473] usbcore: registered new interface driver ums-isd200 [ 1.657519] usbcore: registered new interface driver ums-jumpshot [ 1.657564] usbcore: registered new interface driver ums-karma [ 1.657609] usbcore: registered new interface driver ums-onetouch [ 1.657654] usbcore: registered new interface driver ums-sddr09 [ 1.657699] usbcore: registered new interface driver ums-sddr55 [ 1.657744] usbcore: registered new interface driver ums-usbat [ 1.657853] PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:PS2K] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 [ 1.657856] PNP: PS/2 appears to have AUX port disabled, if this is incorrect please boot with i8042.nopnp [ 1.658389] serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 [ 1.658633] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice [ 1.658975] rtc_cmos 00:04: RTC can wake from S4 [ 1.659079] rtc_cmos 00:04: rtc core: registered rtc_cmos as rtc0 [ 1.659110] rtc0: alarms up to one year, y3k, 242 bytes nvram [ 1.659226] device-mapper: uevent: version 1.0.3 [ 1.659361] device-mapper: ioctl: 4.18.0-ioctl (2010-06-29) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com [ 1.659494] EISA: Probing bus 0 at eisa.0 [ 1.659497] EISA: Cannot allocate resource for mainboard [ 1.659559] cpuidle: using governor ladder [ 1.659561] cpuidle: using governor menu [ 1.659564] ioatdma: Intel(R) QuickData Technology Driver 4.00 [ 1.660412] usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev [ 1.660471] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid [ 1.660473] usbhid: USB HID core driver [ 1.660475] zram: num_devices not specified. Using default: 1 [ 1.660477] zram: Creating 1 devices ... [ 1.661154] ALSA device list: [ 1.661156] No soundcards found. [ 1.661257] TCP cubic registered [ 1.661259] Initializing XFRM netlink socket [ 1.661264] NET: Registered protocol family 17 [ 1.661275] NET: Registered protocol family 15 [ 1.661346] lib80211: common routines for IEEE802.11 drivers [ 1.661349] lib80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'NULL' [ 1.661352] Registering the dns_resolver key type [ 1.661442] Using IPI No-Shortcut mode [ 1.662002] rtc_cmos 00:04: setting system clock to 2011-01-11 22:22:48 UTC (1294784568) [ 1.684465] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input2 [ 1.743748] ata7.00: ATAPI: ASUS CD-S520/A4, 1.2, max UDMA/33 [ 1.743757] ata7: nv_mode_filter: 0x739f&0x739f->0x739f, BIOS=0x7000 (0xc0000000) ACPI=0x701f (60:600:0x13) [ 1.750332] ata7.00: configured for UDMA/33 [ 1.900036] ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) [ 1.900064] ata3: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) [ 2.053360] ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300) [ 2.060267] ata1.00: ATA-7: HDT722525DLA380, V44OA96A, max UDMA/133 [ 2.060270] ata1.00: 488397168 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32) [ 2.073599] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133 [ 2.073712] scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA HDT722525DLA380 V44O PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 [ 2.074027] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 488397168 512-byte logical blocks: (250 GB/232 GiB) [ 2.074073] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off [ 2.074077] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00 [ 2.074096] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA [ 2.074146] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0 [ 2.080996] sda: sda1 [ 2.081330] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk [ 2.136690] usb 2-5: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2 [ 2.337708] usb 2-5: New USB device found, idVendor=045e, idProduct=00f0 [ 2.337712] usb 2-5: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 [ 2.337714] usb 2-5: Product: Microsoft ® Laser Mouse 6000 [ 2.337717] usb 2-5: Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation [ 2.350017] input: Microsoft Corporation Microsoft ® Laser Mouse 6000 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/usb2/2-5/2-5:1.0/input/input3 [ 2.350263] generic-usb 0003:045E:00F0.0001: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Microsoft Corporation Microsoft ® Laser Mouse 6000] on usb-0000:00:02.0-5/input0 [ 2.386684] ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) [ 2.700022] ata4: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) [ 3.013355] ata6: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) [ 3.014320] scsi 6:0:0:0: CD-ROM ASUS CD-S520/A4 1.2 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 [ 3.015880] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 52x/52x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray [ 3.015883] cdrom: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 [ 3.016047] sr 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 [ 3.016208] sr 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 5 [ 3.016315] ata8: port disabled. ignoring. [ 3.016350] Freeing unused kernel memory: 560k freed [ 8.613961] ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3 [ 8.633249] ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A [ 9.166923] cloop: losetup_file: 15171 blocks, 131072 bytes/block, largest block is 131098 bytes. [ 9.294714] ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A [ 9.296183] aufs test_add:253:busybox[1587]: uid/gid/perm /KNOPPIX 0/0/0755, 0/0/01777 [ 25.317755] k8temp 0000:00:18.3: Temperature readouts might be wrong - check erratum #141 [ 25.525825] i2c i2c-3: nForce2 SMBus adapter at 0x1c00 [ 25.525849] i2c i2c-4: nForce2 SMBus adapter at 0x1c40 [ 25.589845] forcedeth: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.64. [ 25.590130] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCH] enabled at IRQ 22 [ 25.590137] forcedeth 0000:00:08.0: PCI INT A -> Link[APCH] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 22 [ 25.590143] forcedeth 0000:00:08.0: setting latency timer to 64 [ 25.590188] nv_probe: set workaround bit for reversed mac addr [ 25.650916] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC1] enabled at IRQ 16 [ 25.650922] ohci1394 0000:01:08.0: PCI INT A -> Link[APC1] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 25.650928] ohci1394 0000:01:08.0: setting latency timer to 64 [ 25.703883] ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.1 (PCI): IRQ=[16] MMIO=[fddff000-fddff7ff] Max Packet=[2048] IR/IT contexts=[4/8] [ 25.703889] ohci1394: fw-host0: Unrecoverable error! [ 25.703896] ohci1394: fw-host0: Async Req Rcv Context died: ctrl[0000880e] cmdptr[00000000] [ 25.703903] ohci1394: fw-host0: Async Rsp Rcv Context died: ctrl[0000880e] cmdptr[00000000] [ 26.107014] forcedeth 0000:00:08.0: ifname eth0, PHY OUI 0x5043 @ 0, addr 00:50:8d:91:7d:0f [ 26.107019] forcedeth 0000:00:08.0: highdma csum vlan pwrctl mgmt gbit lnktim msi desc-v3 [ 26.107253] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [AMC1] enabled at IRQ 21 [ 26.107258] forcedeth 0000:00:09.0: PCI INT A -> Link[AMC1] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 21 [ 26.107263] forcedeth 0000:00:09.0: setting latency timer to 64 [ 26.107313] nv_probe: set workaround bit for reversed mac addr [ 26.623717] forcedeth 0000:00:09.0: ifname eth1, PHY OUI 0x5043 @ 1, addr 00:50:8d:91:7d:10 [ 26.623722] forcedeth 0000:00:09.0: highdma csum vlan pwrctl mgmt gbit lnktim msi desc-v3 [ 26.623983] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [AAZA] enabled at IRQ 20 [ 26.623990] HDA Intel 0000:00:06.1: PCI INT B -> Link[AAZA] -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 20 [ 26.623995] hda_intel: Disable MSI for Nvidia chipset [ 26.624026] HDA Intel 0000:00:06.1: setting latency timer to 64 [ 26.973357] ohci1394: fw-host0: Unrecoverable error! [ 26.973362] ohci1394: fw-host0: Async Req Tx Context died: ctrl[0000880e] cmdptr[00000000] [ 26.973367] ohci1394: fw-host0: Async Req Rcv Context died: ctrl[0000880e] cmdptr[00000000] [ 26.973372] ohci1394: fw-host0: Async Rsp Rcv Context died: ctrl[0000880e] cmdptr[00000000] [ 26.973608] ieee1394: Host added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[00508d0000905a33] [ 27.196694] hda_codec: ALC883: BIOS auto-probing. [ 28.973261] Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M [ 28.986958] FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 [ 33.140022] usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3 [ 33.265594] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1307, idProduct=0165 [ 33.265598] usb 1-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [ 33.265601] usb 1-2: Product: USB Flash Drive [ 33.265603] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: USB 2.0 [ 33.265606] usb 1-2: SerialNumber: 06c63766214583 [ 33.266794] scsi8 : usb-storage 1-2:1.0 [ 34.268855] scsi 8:0:0:0: Direct-Access USB 2.0 USB Flash Drive 0.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 [ 34.269062] sd 8:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 [ 34.270145] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] 63176704 512-byte logical blocks: (32.3 GB/30.1 GiB) [ 34.271710] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off [ 34.271714] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00 [ 34.271716] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 34.274708] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 34.409723] sdb: sdb1 [ 34.548706] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 34.548710] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk [ 194.538186] alloc irq_desc for 40 on node -1 [ 194.538189] alloc kstat_irqs on node -1 [ 194.538200] forcedeth 0000:00:08.0: irq 40 for MSI/MSI-X [ 194.543117] alloc irq_desc for 41 on node -1 [ 194.543121] alloc kstat_irqs on node -1 [ 194.543132] forcedeth 0000:00:09.0: irq 41 for MSI/MSI-X [ 194.543330] eth1: no link during initialization. [ 194.642683] lp: driver loaded but no devices found [ 194.655297] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver [ 200.622949] NET: Registered protocol family 10 [ 200.623157] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions [ 200.623663] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready [ 210.936658] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
Hello,
I have the very similar symptoms Ark42 describes.
My hardware: Thinkpad T43 Laptop with a Intel i915 chipset.
Upon Live boot of knoppix 6.4.3 everything works 100% (including 3d) for me but after install to hdd.
My intel driver does not load automatically so no 3d desktop etc. boo hoo
So after I added this xmodule=intel to my menu.1st
Everything is blank after boot until the desktop is fully loaded.
Once my desktop is loaded I can see everything works including 3d, except for my tty hopping does not update the display at all.
When I press "ctrl+alt+f1" my desktop stays on the same screen and my mouse arrow disappears. I can then blindly type commands at tty1 but I will be looking at the last image my desktop on tty5 displayed before pressing the key combo. The screen does not update during this time. I can return (make tty5 update again) by switching back to tty5.
"chvt 1" command instead of "ctrl+alt+f1" gives the same results.
If you need more info feel free to ask i'll try my best to help. I must add that i did goof around allot with this install trying to get the i915 driver to load. I might have damaged the install during my crude attempts to fix the issue. In anycase i'll reload now and post an update here to let know if i can recreate the same results.
I tried to add dmesg output to help but im hitting a wall here.
Thanks to all who contribute to knoppix. It is definitely my most favorite linux distro.The text that you have entered is too long (17101 characters). Please shorten it to 10000 characters long.
I would do the following since Knoppix works 100% if you boot it from CD.
1. Boot your laptop from CD.
2. Open the log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log in an editor. Search for the kernel command line and write down all boot parameters used by the Live boot of Knoppix 6.4.3.
3. Open your boot manager's configuration file on the hard disk in an editor. Usually you have to be root to make any changes. Compare the boot parameters used by the HD install with those you wrote down in step 2. Modify the list of boot parameters and save the changes.
4. Try to boot your laptop from hard disk.
Thanks klaus2008, your advice worked and now my knoppix 6.4.3 does not go blank after boot anymore and my tty hopping works properly again.
The line that fixed it in my menu.1st now looks like this.
Code:kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.36.1 root=/dev/sda7 xmodule=intel lang=en vt.default_utf8=0 video=vga16fb:off loglevel=0 rw
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