Announcement from Klaus - DVD Knoppix planned

[rec9140]

From the debian-knoppix mailing list.


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To: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
From: knopper@linuxtag.org (Klaus Knopper)
Subject: [debian-knoppix] LinuxTag 2003 DVD prerelease images available
Date sent: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 05:33:22 +0200

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...for those who have a DVD burner and really want to do some SERIOUS
betatesting. ;-)

The images (german and english, though the pressed DVD will default to
german) will be downloadable on ftp.uni-kl at a password-protected
directory for limited access. I have agreed with the ftp admins on this,
since the machine is already heavily overloaded with the downloads of
the standard CD edition of Knoppix.

So, if you have a DVD burner, and are not afraid to download a
(currently) 1.5GB image, please send a mail containing
"KNOPPIX LT03 DVD BETATEST" to me directly, and I will reply with the
download location and password as soon as possible.

Status: Most of the software that was recommended through this list has
been included. The current list of packages is available at
http://download.linuxtag.org/knoppix/packages-dvd.txt

Still a lot of work to do.

The bootscreen/HTML-help graphics and and embedded version numbers are
mostly unchanged yet, please do not report this as a bug. ;-)

Most important is to check if all installed packages work correctly,
or changes are required in the writable areas/configuration files.

Regards
-Klaus Knopper
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knopper@linuxtag.org http://www.linuxtag.org/
Phone +49-(0)631-3109371 Fax +49-(0)631-3109372
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[rickenbacherus]

I'm not afraid to dl a 1.5G image- no problems there BUT I don't have a DVD burner. I could go buy one........and be summarily executed by the wife on my return........or...hope that another avenue appears. (hint-hint).

[rec9140]

I'm not afraid to dl a 1.5G image- no problems there BUT I don't have a DVD burner. I could go buy one........and be summarily executed by the wife on my return........or...hope that another avenue appears. (hint-hint).

I too am hoping that a way to purchase the LinuxTAG 2003 Kit WITH the DVD comes about.

Although I am starting to think that the only way those of us who don't attend will not be getting the DVD unless some kind soul who does go finds a way to duplicate it and sell it via one of the CD distribs.

I personally have no problem in LinuxTAG getting some $$$$$ to support them, cover the cost of the DVD, and cost of mailing it to the US.

We need to let LinuxTAG know of our interest, and that no every one can travel to Germany for the conference/show.


I email'd LinuxTAG @ info@linuxtag.org but have received no response.

[monkeyman]

Gotta give Klaus credit for keeping interest high. Everyone, including myself, waits with baited breath for LinuxTAG to be over so we can lay hands on the newest toy.

[rickenbacherus]

From the mailing list:

>>Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] LinuxTag 2003 DVD prerelease
images available
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>>
>> >>From: Conrad Newton <conrad.newton@broadpark.no>

>> >>Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] LinuxTag 2003 DVD
prerelease images available
>> >>
>> >>Do you really need a DVD burner? Can you not mount
the image,
>> >>and copy KNOPPIX/KNOPPIX to the hard disk, as with
the CD image?
>>
>>How about using VMware?
>>I will try after download.
>>
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>>suzaki


Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] LinuxTag 2003 DVD prerelease images
available

I succeeded booting KNOPPIX-DVD on vmware 3.2 using virtual
DVD-ROM(iso image).

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suzaki

[eriixblaike]

People can mirror the DVD images. I would gladly mirror them. I could even break the image into small files and use a .jigdo file to allow people to collect the files and recreate the original bit-for-bit (as Debian does with their images) for easier downloading. That wouldn't be neccessary, of course, but I could. I may have a lowly DSL connection, but it is unmetered (aside from the bandwidth cap) and I have a static DNS address to counter my dynamic IP address. Machines with unmetered internet connections and Apache make a great combination. I'm also confident that I am not the only one who would be glad to help. I'd also be willing to mirror selected CD images (I only carry the EN versions right now and that'll probably continue).

[SUOrangeman]

I pulled the "-EN" DVD image this morning. Everything looks good. Thanks to Klaus for the quick response!

Before I start spewing my comments, concerns, and questions all over the place, is there already a web site where beta testers can discuss their findings thus far? I've noticed a few minor things, but I don't want to fill up the bug queue if someone has already noticed the same behavior. Klaus's message only indicated that I should report issues to him.

As a teaser, I don't have a DVD burner nor a floppy drive (and I don't boot many non-Windows CDs without problems), yet I've gotten this beta up and running. Dual Athlon MP 2400+. Promise Ultra100TX2 with 3 hard drives (only one is detected by KNOPPIX), Dual-DVI GF4 Ti4600, Santa Cruz, STB TV PCI, blahblahblah ...

As far as mirroring with jigdo, I don't think its going to work. The last time I used jigdo (0.86, I think ... to download the Debian 3.0r0 DVD and CD images), it recreates ISOs file-by-file. Since the key to KNOPPIX is one huge image file inside of the ISO, it would be nearly pointless to use jigdo.

-SUO

[eriixblaike]

Mirroring Knoppix using jigdo works fine. I take the Knoppix .iso and use the UN*X split program to break the image into a managable size (I use split set to add a 5 digit index to created filenames and make all files 1M in size), then put those files in a shared directory with the .jigdo and .template files they require and allow the downloads to begin. The repetitive md5 sum recalculation at all steps along the path of the jigdo download (including the final check at the end) make it well worth it for people with less than reliable connections and it would allow download of chunks from different servers if someone didn't want to mirror the whole image by themself. I've been providing jigdo versions of the knoppix images for friends off my computer for some time now. It really does work rather well.

[Dave_Bechtel]

--I'm booting the iso with VMware 3. Only issues noticed so far are with the GNOME menus, and knx-hdinstall goes over 160% when copying files.

--I have to say that the DVD is pretty impressive. I installed to a 4-gig VMware drive partitioned like so:

1 200MB swap
2 8MB /boot (1 cylinder)
3 3,887,604MB /

--When installing with Reiserfs, there is about 17MB free. ' apt-get remove --purge emacs* ' saves 150MB right off the bat.

SUOrangeman, how did you boot the iso? I've been thinking of dd'ing it directly to a partition and activating the boot flag on it, but don't yet have the space to experiment w/o vmware.

I pulled the "-EN" DVD image this morning. Everything looks good. Thanks to Klaus for the quick response!

Before I start spewing my comments, concerns, and questions all over the place, is there already a web site where beta testers can discuss their findings thus far? I've noticed a few minor things, but I don't want to fill up the bug queue if someone has already noticed the same behavior. Klaus's message only indicated that I should report issues to him.

As a teaser, I don't have a DVD burner nor a floppy drive (and I don't boot many non-Windows CDs without problems), yet I've gotten this beta up and running.
-SUO

[thewalkingman]

sigh

I so want this dvd