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    No sound with ASUS W90VP

    Please pardon if this has been answered before, I have not found any other relevant information in this forum, so here goes:

    I have had knoppix 6.4 (I am unable to provide exact version, I am not yet that familiar with the system) for about a week now, and have been able to install and boot to/from USB, and have pretty much everything working... except sound. I have seen other posts that ask what I see when running "alsamixer" from a terminal window... If it helps, I get a rudimentary graphical display for a mixer. It shows me information such as sound card, chipset, and input/output levels. No matter what adjustments I make to the levels, No sound gets pushed through the speakers. Headphones/headset return no sound either. I do not know what other information I can provide, but given questions, I can answer them.

    Thank you for your time.

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    Welcome to the Knoppix forum, SteelAngel.

    We will need a few facts to help you.

    0. In some way, do you know your sound system isn't broken, and should work ok?
    1. Does your sound card work under some other OS, say Windows?
    2. On your alsamixer display, does Master or anything else read MM not OO?
    ....MM on Master means it's muted.
    3. Do you have a volume control applet?
    4. What sound source are you expecting to produce something?
    5. What are the alsamixer settings right now?

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    I think that it would be helpful to know the output of the following commands
    Code:
    cat /proc/asound/cards
    sudo hwinfo --sound
    sudo lspci
    uname -a

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    @SteelAngel

    Some additional thoughts for your consideration:

    1. Look at Ubuntu experience that Ubuntu 10.10x64 drivers are a problem,
    ...older Ubuntu 10.04 drivers worked ok. See post #11 at
    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...er/+bug/688174

    2. Knoppix 6.4.4 LiveCD may not have 64-bit support or as much as
    ...Knoppix 6.4.4 LiveDVD. In case your 6.4 is from a LiveCD,
    ...you might try the DVD version to see if that helps.

    3. Make sure the kernel(32- or 64-bit) matches the driver.

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    Here are some an easy (and fun) tests for sound on Knoppix 6.4.4:
    aplay -vv /usr/share/sounds/linphone/hello16000.wav
    or, more briefly:
    aplay -vv /usr/lib/libreoffice/basis3.3/share/gallery/sounds/ok.wav

    Here's some advice from alsa on checking out audio:
    http://www.alsa-project.org/main/ind...undcardTesting

    FWIW, my pc is a 64-bit machine, but my Knopppix is a 32-bit install,
    made from the 6.4.4 LiveCD. My sound driver is snd_hda_intel. Works fine.
    That _may_ be the driver that ASUS W90VP needs as well.

    @klaus2008
    Your 'hwinfo --sound' sure gives a lot of info.
    FWIW, dmesg|grep -i sound on my machine says 'No soundcards found'.
    'lsmod|grep -i snd' pulls up several drivers.

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    @utu:
    sound system appears to be OK, as on boot the asus "ding" plays... and the sounds work ok in windows. Alsamixer does not show any MM. All sound sources expected to play sound (video player local and streaming, random games I've tried, music player, etc.) do not. Volume control applet states 100, not muted. Alsamixer settings show all sound sources (Master, PCM, Front, front mi, surround and center) at 100, dB gain 0.0. Also, I checked those links you provided, but am unsure how I would load older drivers, or if the posts are suggesting I revert to an older version of knoppix... Also, The installation was from a liveDVD, so unfortunately that isn't the problem.

    @klaus2008:
    knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
    0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
    HDA Intel at 0xfbaf8000 irq 41
    1 [HDMI ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
    HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfbbfc000 irq 43
    knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ sudo hwinfo --sound
    15: PCI 1b.0: 0403 Audio device
    [Created at pci.318]
    UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_3a3e
    Unique ID: u1Nb.tIOMdJXBIy3
    SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0
    SysFS BusID: 0000:00:1b.0
    Hardware Class: sound
    Model: "Intel 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller"
    Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation"
    Device: pci 0x3a3e "82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller"
    SubVendor: pci 0x1043 "ASUSTeK Computer Inc."
    SubDevice: pci 0x1873
    Driver: "HDA Intel"
    Driver Modules: "snd_hda_intel"
    Memory Range: 0xfbaf8000-0xfbafbfff (rw,non-prefetchable)
    IRQ: 41 (652 events)
    Module Alias: "pci:v00008086d00003A3Esv00001043sd00001873bc04sc0 3i00"
    Driver Info #0:
    Driver Status: snd_hda_intel is active
    Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_hda_intel"
    Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

    29: PCI 100.1: 0403 Audio device
    [Created at pci.318]
    UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1002_aa30
    Unique ID: NXNs.aHD_HHlfRk3
    Parent ID: vSkL.YkFwl8W53w4
    SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1
    SysFS BusID: 0000:01:00.1
    Hardware Class: sound
    Model: "ATI HD48x0 audio"
    Vendor: pci 0x1002 "ATI Technologies Inc"
    Device: pci 0xaa30 "HD48x0 audio"
    SubVendor: pci 0x1043 "ASUSTeK Computer Inc."
    SubDevice: pci 0xaa30
    Driver: "HDA Intel"
    Driver Modules: "snd_hda_intel"
    Memory Range: 0xfbbfc000-0xfbbfffff (rw,non-prefetchable)
    IRQ: 43 (17 events)
    Module Alias: "pci:v00001002d0000AA30sv00001043sd0000AA30bc04sc0 3i00"
    Driver Info #0:
    Driver Status: snd_hda_intel is active
    Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_hda_intel"
    Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
    Attached to: #9 (PCI bridge)
    knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ sudo hwinfo --sound
    15: PCI 1b.0: 0403 Audio device
    [Created at pci.318]
    UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_3a3e
    Unique ID: u1Nb.tIOMdJXBIy3
    SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0
    SysFS BusID: 0000:00:1b.0
    Hardware Class: sound
    Model: "Intel 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller"
    Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation"
    Device: pci 0x3a3e "82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller"
    SubVendor: pci 0x1043 "ASUSTeK Computer Inc."
    SubDevice: pci 0x1873
    Driver: "HDA Intel"
    Driver Modules: "snd_hda_intel"
    Memory Range: 0xfbaf8000-0xfbafbfff (rw,non-prefetchable)
    IRQ: 41 (652 events)
    Module Alias: "pci:v00008086d00003A3Esv00001043sd00001873bc04sc0 3i00"
    Driver Info #0:
    Driver Status: snd_hda_intel is active
    Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_hda_intel"
    Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

    29: PCI 100.1: 0403 Audio device
    [Created at pci.318]
    UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1002_aa30
    Unique ID: NXNs.aHD_HHlfRk3
    Parent ID: vSkL.YkFwl8W53w4
    SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1
    SysFS BusID: 0000:01:00.1
    Hardware Class: sound
    Model: "ATI HD48x0 audio"
    Vendor: pci 0x1002 "ATI Technologies Inc"
    Device: pci 0xaa30 "HD48x0 audio"
    SubVendor: pci 0x1043 "ASUSTeK Computer Inc."
    SubDevice: pci 0xaa30
    Driver: "HDA Intel"
    Driver Modules: "snd_hda_intel"
    Memory Range: 0xfbbfc000-0xfbbfffff (rw,non-prefetchable)
    IRQ: 43 (17 events)
    Module Alias: "pci:v00001002d0000AA30sv00001043sd0000AA30bc04sc0 3i00"
    Driver Info #0:
    Driver Status: snd_hda_intel is active
    Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_hda_intel"
    Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
    Attached to: #9 (PCI bridge)
    knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ sudo lspci
    00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82X38/X48 Express DRAM Controller (rev 01)
    00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82X38/X48 Express Host-Primary PCI Express Bridge (rev 01)
    00:06.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82X38/X48 Express Host-Secondary PCI Express Bridge (rev 01)
    00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4
    00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5
    00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6
    00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2
    00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
    00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Root Port 1
    00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Port 2
    00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Root Port 5
    00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Root Port 6
    00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1
    00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2
    00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3
    00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1
    00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 90)
    00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JIR (ICH10R) LPC Interface Controller
    00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) SATA AHCI Controller
    00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) SMBus Controller
    01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M98 XT [Mobility Radeon HD 4870]
    01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc HD48x0 audio
    02:00.0 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc M98 XT [Mobility Radeon HD 4870]
    03:00.0 SATA controller: JMicron Technology Corp. JMB360 AHCI Controller (rev 02)
    04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
    05:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
    09:01.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 05)
    09:01.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 22)
    09:01.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 12)
    09:01.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 12)
    knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ uname -a
    Linux Microknoppix 2.6.37 #13 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jan 23 23:54:32 CET 2011 i686 GNU/Linux

    Thank you both for your help, and please pardon if the data provided is in the wrong format.

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    @SteelAngel

    We are making some progress I think.

    Your computer and mine both require the snd_hda_intel driver.
    My sound system works so I can vouch for the driver in Knoppix 6.4.4,
    but only for 32-bit kernel.

    Your install is probably 64-bit by default if made from the LiveDVD.
    It is possible that there is a problem with sound for the 64-bit
    Knoppix 6.4.4 install. This is the case for Ubuntu, apparently.

    My machine is also 64-bits, but my Knoppix install was made from theLiveCD
    which by default uses a 32-bit kernel. I can't use the
    LiveDVD because my 2 Gb LiveUSB does not have enough space for it.

    One thing you might do is download Knoppix 6.4.4 LiveCD and fire it up
    as a LiveCD to see if your sound works that way. You would then be
    operating in a similar fashion to my set-up.

    Some loose ends:
    With your current set-up

    In a terminal, enter lsmod|grep -i snd
    that should show you three drivers, one of which is snd_hda_intel
    what are they?

    Also in a terminal, go to /home/knoppix/Desktop/KNOPPIX/boot/syslinux
    copy the first line of syslinux.cfg which begins with DEFAULT
    what does it say?

    Version numbers are important. If you do the LiveCD experiment, make
    sure it is version 6.4.4.
    It would not surprise me if your sound would work ok in a 32-bit
    situation with no tweaks at all.
    Last edited by utu; 05-06-2011 at 02:41 AM.

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    @SteelAngel

    knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ uname -a
    Linux Microknoppix 2.6.37 #13 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jan 23 23:54:32 CET 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
    tells us that you use Knoppix V6.4.4 with 32bit kernel.

    knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
    0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
    HDA Intel at 0xfbaf8000 irq 41
    1 [HDMI ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
    HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfbbfc000 irq 43
    There are two sound cards installed in your system. Sound card #0 is
    15: PCI 1b.0: 0403 Audio device
    [Created at pci.318]
    UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_3a3e
    Unique ID: u1Nb.tIOMdJXBIy3
    SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0
    SysFS BusID: 0000:00:1b.0
    Hardware Class: sound
    Model: "Intel 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller"
    Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation"
    Device: pci 0x3a3e "82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller"
    SubVendor: pci 0x1043 "ASUSTeK Computer Inc."
    SubDevice: pci 0x1873
    Driver: "HDA Intel"
    Driver Modules: "snd_hda_intel"
    Memory Range: 0xfbaf8000-0xfbafbfff (rw,non-prefetchable)
    IRQ: 41 (652 events)
    Module Alias: "pci:v00008086d00003A3Esv00001043sd00001873bc0 4sc0 3i00"
    Driver Info #0:
    Driver Status: snd_hda_intel is active
    Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_hda_intel"
    Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
    and sound card #1 is
    29: PCI 100.1: 0403 Audio device
    [Created at pci.318]
    UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1002_aa30
    Unique ID: NXNs.aHD_HHlfRk3
    Parent ID: vSkL.YkFwl8W53w4
    SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1
    SysFS BusID: 0000:01:00.1
    Hardware Class: sound
    Model: "ATI HD48x0 audio"
    Vendor: pci 0x1002 "ATI Technologies Inc"
    Device: pci 0xaa30 "HD48x0 audio"
    SubVendor: pci 0x1043 "ASUSTeK Computer Inc."
    SubDevice: pci 0xaa30
    Driver: "HDA Intel"
    Driver Modules: "snd_hda_intel"
    Memory Range: 0xfbbfc000-0xfbbfffff (rw,non-prefetchable)
    IRQ: 43 (17 events)
    Module Alias: "pci:v00001002d0000AA30sv00001043sd0000AA30bc0 4sc0 3i00"
    Driver Info #0:
    Driver Status: snd_hda_intel is active
    Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_hda_intel"
    Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
    Attached to: #9 (PCI bridge)
    Both cards use the kernel module snd_hda_intel. The command 'lspci' confirms the presence of two sound cards
    00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
    01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc HD48x0 audio
    The second audio device is useful if you connect an external display to your notebook using an HDMI cable.

    I think that you should run Windows and examine which audio device is in use when you hear sounds. If you need to use sound card #1 (HDMI) then you have to configure ALSA.

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    Nice deduction, klaus2008.
    Makes me wonder if that might answer the Ubuntu 10 bug as well.

    It may be possible to make the sound card selection
    using the F6 option on the alsamixer gui.
    If not, man alsamixer gives some suggestions.

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