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    DVD Knoppix 6.7.1 NOT Available after RE_installing Grub KAELLA

    Good morning / afternoon

    DVD Knoppix 6.7.1 NOT Available after RE_installing Grub

    My situation in 11 steps with a Laptops

    I- PREVIOUSLY on my HDD with Windows Bootloader written by the last installed
    MS-Windows_OS:
    1) 2 bootable MS_WINDOWS partitions (hda1 and hda3 )
    2) Some other FAT_32 partitions.
    3) 1 partition (hda6) KAELLA 3.2 (French adapted translation of KNOPPIX 5.1.1*)
    accessible ONLY via device fd0 (disk 1"44 Mo)... when I am NOT TOO LAZY to
    Plug an USB drive FD !!!! ....

    II- MARVELLOUS MIRACLE:
    4) I Discover the Miraculous (DVD_Knoppix_6.7.1) CHEATCODE "GRUB" on
    Booting!
    5) I Become ABLE to access ALL my Bootable Partitions:
    a)- hda1 (and hda3) via the OLD GRUB installed by KAELLA KNOPPIX
    b)- And My KAELLA ....WITHOUT using fd0 (1"44 Mo) !!!!

    III-ACCIDENT (uncomprehensible...)
    6) I try ro repaire the "WINDOWS boot" via the original CD with NO SUCCESS.
    7) "GRUB" ...becomes UNAVAILABLE !
    8) Also even the DVD 6.7.1 itself !!!!......PANIC!!!!
    9) I Re_Install "the Kaella GRUB.
    10) All Hd Partitions become Accessible..Good!
    11) But NEVER the DVD 7.1 and This is my REAL Problem:
    a)- I always need the DVD for the programms and maintenance eventually.
    b)- I CANNOT iNSTALL 6.7.1 on my HDD after TESTING.

    This my 1st POST, maybe I have been TOO LONG,and / or unprecise.
    I am sorry and know very few, almost nothing about KNOPPIX_OS.
    I am looking for BOOKS.

    Thanks you and please note the 11-b (III) (6.7.1 still not installed on HDD).

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    10) All Hd Partitions become Accessible..Good!
    11) But NEVER the DVD 7.1 and This is my REAL Problem:
    If you want access to your DVD, it's a BIOS problem, not of grub. The BIOS setup offers the option to select the drive, which you want first to boot from. Otherwise the BIOS startup offers the option (perhaps [F8] or [F12]) to select the boot device.

    Greetings Werner * http://www.wp-schulz.de/knoppix/summary.html
    Own Rescue-CD (Knoppix V6.7.1 remaster)

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    Thanks you Mr Werner

    It's not a Bios Problem.All my other Bootable CD/DVD boot fine without using any Button Option..
    This happens ONLY with the "6.7.1_Knoppix_DVD" ...
    Even with the booting option button !!!!

    Booting on This DVD return automatically and systematically to "the last installed GRUB".
    So having never installed "6.7.1_Knoppix" I never more ENJOY the programs included.
    I am forced to use the other "Knoppix versions" specifically the good 6.4.4_DVD.

    I think there is some automatic relation between the 3 points below:
    a)- The CHEATCODE "GRUB" proposed by the" 6.7.1_DVD"
    b)- A supposed "HD_Installed_6.7.1_Knoppix"
    c)- Booting on The VERY "6.7.1_DVD" which MAY probably CALL the "HD_GRUB"...

    "Probable 1st Explanation" (?):
    Once "HD_installed"....no need of The DVD logically !!!!
    "I HAVE NEVER INSTALLED the 6.7.1_Knoppix on my HD !!!!

    IF SOMEONE HAVE AN "HD_6.7.1_INSTALLED HE COULD TRY TO BOOT ON THE VERY
    "6.7.1_DVD".
    IF ALL GOES WELL THEN MY PROBLEM MAY BE RELATED WITH THE VERSION OF "GRUB" USED BY THE "KAELLA VERSION" (SOME INCOMPATIBILITY ?"

    Thanks you very much and receive my best greetings.
    knp

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    Please test integritiy of DVD (6.7.1) with Knoppix cheatcode:
    knoppix testcd

    CD/DVD problem (German written)

    Greetings Werner

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    Thanks Mr Werner
    That's THE problem.I thought to this idea at the very beginning.
    But to use the Cheatcode "TESTCD" I MUST Stay ON the "6.7.1_DVD Programs" !...which is the VERY problem.
    I cannot STAY on THIS DVD to Test its integrity and enjoy ONCE MORE its good Programs.
    Finally I project to burn another DVD...Perhaps my DVD is corrupted somewhere (physically,although
    I have detected nothing).
    I shall tell you more in about one week.If the problem is persistant then I shall conclude to
    a "minor bug ...perhaps voluntarily to leave free the DVD DRIVE....if "HD_installed".
    Thanks you and greetings.
    knp

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    Sorry, I don't understand what you mean with
    But to use the Cheatcode "TESTCD" I MUST Stay ON the "6.7.1_DVD Programs"
    I have a Knoppix HD installation and a Knoppix DVD 6.7.1 inserted within my CD/DVD player.

    At boottime I start DVD from BIOS - no problem, Knoppix from DVD starts, not from HD installation.

    If I use cheatcode "knoppix testcd" at boottime - sha1sums will be calculated - no errors.

    If you get any error message at this time, your DVD is worthless.

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    Mr Werner
    You write:
    "I have a Knoppix HD installation and a Knoppix DVD 6.7.1 inserted within my CD/DVD player."

    That is my situation....as whenever i wish to boot from CD/DVD
    You write next:
    "At boottime I start DVD from BIOS - no problem, Knoppix from DVD starts, not from HD installation."

    In that situation,my boot is ok but I do'nt get knoppix from DVD and I am redirected
    to "Grub"
    (probably imposed as "Default"? This is an affair of experts and not of a "new" like me.
    I do not exclude an improbable "virus" also

    More (and worse) the "usual Microknoppix attached" does even not appear itself!
    This is a good sign that the DVD has been "forgotten" by "something" (some "default parameter?)
    SO:
    No program from DVD. become accessible.
    In particular NO cheatcode become accessible.

    This situation is very strange and frustrating for it prevents me to enjoy my 6.7.1_DVD like before.
    T
    hanks you and best regards

    P.S.
    1)- "KAELLA" uses "ReiserFileSystem"
    2)- Is it so for 6.7.1 ?
    3)- Is it worth to wonder about this?

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    4) I Discover the Miraculous (DVD_Knoppix_6.7.1) CHEATCODE "GRUB" on
    Booting!
    7) "GRUB" ...becomes UNAVAILABLE !
    Are you sure, your DVD player isn't damaged?

    Greetings Werner
    Last edited by Werner P. Schulz; 02-06-2012 at 10:35 AM.

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    4) I Discover the Miraculous (DVD_Knoppix_6.7.1) CHEATCODE "GRUB" on

    Mr Werner
    Your quote (4)
    4) "I Discover the Miraculous (DVD_Knoppix_6.7.1) CHEATCODE "GRUB" on
    "Booting!"




    corresponds to the situation before my "accident".

    Getting the 6.7.1_DVD from "boot" to all the programs included was possible,easy...
    as the custom with every Bootable Knoppix_CDVD

    Your quote (7)
    7) "GRUB" ...becomes UNAVAILABLE !

    was one situation after the "accident".

    Commands such as "cheatcodes" are available only when you have got the "Knppix_1st_SCREEN"
    which proposes many features for "Help" (parameters for booting the real 6.7.1_OS)

    I even do'nt get this SCREEN. So no parameter is possible without this "SCREEN"

    My CD/DVD drive is always "ok" . I use it as long as possible for many things even to boot bootable CD/DVD_OS's
    Does-it exist a way to neutralise temporarily a PARTITION (my Kaella) without destroying it?
    If so I shoud probably be able to boot and get once more the Knoppix_6.7.1_OS of the DVD.
    Another question which commes to me:
    Perhaps
    1)- Installing "GRUB" FROM the "HD_KAELLA"
    does not give the same result as
    2)- installing "GRUB" FROM the "DVD_Kaella"

    I have 'eventually,to read "the lines written" by "GRUB" in each case before doing any manipulation.

    Thanks you for your great disponibility.

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    Knoppix_6.7.1_DVD and GRUB problem is SOLVED definitely.Thanks to Mr Werner.

    This problem with "Grub" (?) is definitely solved...but very strangely.
    As always the simplest method is the best !
    I have burnt a NEW "ISO" on my same DVD....

    But before that some strange facts happened and are worth to be noticed
    although not important.


    I-

    1)- I format (initialized) entirely my same DVD with one of my usual good programs
    2)- I burn my OLD ISO on my same DVD with this program
    3)- I boot...and obtain ABSOLUTELY nothing !!

    II-

    4)- I format entirely the same DVD with another good program (K3b of KAELLA)
    5)- I burn the OLD ISO
    6)- Boot is OK but I get a TRUNCATED Knoppix_6.7.1_live DVD:
    a) Numerous programs are Ok
    b) Some other give nothing
    Office and....system settings!!!!
    III-
    7)- I format the same DVD entirely with this last good program "KAELLA's K3b"
    8)- I Download a NEW iso
    9)- I burn this one on my same DVD with this K3b
    10)-I GET MY USUAL LIVE 6.7.1_LIVE_DVD!!!!...
    That was my Goal

    CONCLUSION:

    A_)- I do not understand WHY my OLD DVD works well only NOW !!!!
    B_)- I must send my thanks to Mr WERNER who has been very kind
    C_)- I must tell him that the "emoticon" which appears in one of my reply came
    perhaps from an "accident"....I never use "emoticon" when I do not know my
    correspondant

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