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More on IceApe vs IceWeasel from Klaus K
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Excerpts from some recent e-mail
.................I presented the following 'news' to Klaus K:
> In regard to the new 703-CD version, I presume you are not surprised to
> know that, in the process of using Knoppix>Install-Components to add flash
> to the browser, in a LiveUSB situation at least, the browser branding
> changes from IceWeasel to IceApe.
.................Klaus K's response was as follows:
I am convinced this is just the wrong thing to happen!
Installing flashplugin-nonfree should NOT remove iceweasel in favour of
iceape. Iceweasel is the current firefox browser, and iceape is
something most people will most likely NOT want to use instead, it's the
reviced but old "all in one" mozilla suite.
I tracked it down to the "-t testing" in the "install additional
software" script. When using "-t unstable" instead, iceweasel does not
get removed.
This has a maybe lucky implication: As soon as the current "unstable"
branch of flashplugin-nonfree hits the "testing" branch, the problem
will (maybe) disappear. For now, I have to warn people to use the manual
method for installing flashplugin-nonfree, if they don't want to lose
iceweasel/firefox:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install -t unstable flashplugin-nonfree
Also, for aptitude -t testing instead of apt-get -t testing, does it
right and leaved iceweasel untouched, by disregarding -t testing for
flashplugin-nonfree and installing the unstable package instead.
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As for possible mkfs problems, knoppix testcd said that files were fine. The /sbin/udevadm booting problem I mentioned is only relevant for squashfs users, but it didn't go away upgrading from kernel 3.3.7 to 3.4.4, and it occurs with 32- and 64-bits kernels alike.
Otherwise, this seems to run just fine.
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Small update: DVD version seems to work just fine, no synaptic initial problems.
To check it quickly with Qemu using KVM, check that qemu-kvm is installed, and start qemu (1.1.0) with
Code:
sudo qemu -machine accel=kvm KNOPPIX_V7.0.3DVD-2012-06-25-EN.iso -hdb /dev/sdb -m 1024 -boot d &
This is also a great way to check modified versions, e.g. will
Code:
sudo qemu -machine accel=kvm -hdb /dev/sdb -m 1024 &
boot and run a KNOPPIX install on /dev/sdb1 - cloop or squashfs. The hang during squashfs boot can be avoided by issuing <CR>s.
With kvm, Qemu can be a good alternative to VMware for several kinds of use. VM-based remastering may also be done there, but I'm not sure about its eventual merits. And this is of course written in 7.0.3DVD running under Qemu 1.1.0.
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Another small update: When legacy grub is installed, qemu can actually boot other partitions on the main drive you are running from. (Module kvm-intel may not be loaded automatically.)
Code:
sudo modprobe kvm && sudo modprobe kvm-intel
sudo qemu -machine accel=kvm -hda /dev/sda -hdb /dev/sdb -m 1024 &
If legacy grub is installed on /dev/hda, this will give you the grub boot menu, and you can use any alternative, except from the instance you are already running (if you booted that way), and there may be partition mounting conflicts. If you have a USB stick or USB external harddisk, they may also be mounted from the VM in the ordinary way when /dev/sdb is given on the command line. Doing purging and installs in the virtual machine is about as fast as directly, and much simpler and safer wrt testing etc.
There are quite a few packages eligible for upgrade in 7.0.3, but I don't think it is worthwhile (or even safe) to try to upgrade all of them. For me, it has worked well so far picking the possibly important ones (like aptitude and qemu).
Maybe it wasn't smart to install the 64-compatibility libs from unstable this time too, for the stripdeb.sh script crashed for some strange reason. Running the steps to strip libc6 (libc6_2.13-34_i386.deb) manually worked, though.
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Originally Posted by
Capricorny
Maybe it wasn't smart to install the 64-compatibility libs from unstable this time too, for the stripdeb.sh script crashed for some strange reason. Running the steps to strip libc6 (libc6_2.13-34_i386.deb) manually worked, though.
Install of multilibs from stable went quite fine, and I think this is the former unstable version, so it might just work
Update on qemu use: Just did a complete 7.0.3 DVD squashfs remastering, running cloop 7.0.3 in qemu using USB3-mounted external harddisk as workspace. Command as in above post, with -hdb /dev/sdb.
Times:
Code:
Set up workspace...............Thu Jul 5 13:35:35 UTC 2012
Copy live system...............Thu Jul 5 13:36:04 UTC 2012
Create squashfs...............Thu Jul 5 13:54:40 UTC 2012
Parallel mksquashfs: Using 1 processor
Loopcreate persistent...............Thu Jul 5 14:20:17 UTC 2012
Purge workspace...............Thu Jul 5 14:20:30 UTC 2012
So, doing the whole remastering business in a virtual machine, using external HDD, is perfectly fine, too.
Last edited by Capricorny; 07-05-2012 at 01:42 PM.
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Capricorny
And of course two VMware kernel modules refuse to compile again. I'm pretty sure it's because I paid. Seems that LibreOffice is up for an upgrade, Synaptic tells me so. Somewhat bad timing there.
Hi Capricorny,
The "VMware Workstation June Preview" tools are working just fine (as 8.0.4 breaks), cf:
http://communities.vmware.com/commun...kstationtp2012
It is quite typical for the brand new kernels to break something with the VmWare tools
and it usually takes a couple of weeks for VmWare or other users to publish a patch in the forums.
I will post my knx 7.0.3 vm guest (with the tools installed) very soon... (I am almost done)
Cheers,
Gilles
PS: vm now posted in here: http://knoppix.net/forum/threads/115...l=1#post127151
Last edited by ruymbeke; 07-06-2012 at 01:28 AM.
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Originally Posted by
ruymbeke
Hi Capricorny,
The "VMware Workstation June Preview" tools are working just fine (as 8.0.4 breaks), cf:
http://communities.vmware.com/commun...kstationtp2012
It is quite typical for the brand new kernels to break something with the VmWare tools
and it usually takes a couple of weeks for VmWare or other users to publish a patch in the forums.
I will post my knx 7.0.3 vm guest (with the tools installed) very soon... (I am almost done)
Cheers,
Gilles
PS: vm now posted in here:
http://knoppix.net/forum/threads/115...l=1#post127151
Yes, it's perfectly possible that Workstation 8.0.3 broke with 3.4.X for a good reason - but it will be for the first time! The breaking of 7.X with kernel 2.39 was because VMware stubbornly stuck to long deprecated switches, kind of built-in killer gene in the code. And VMware didn't care to release a 7.X patch with a solution any interested user could find on the net, rather forcing users to upgrade. The troubles I had with 8.X were well-known, with rather old patches floating aorund. VMware could have fixed it just by picking up one of those patches, like I did myself. But - it MAY be the kernel this time!
And I think we can agree that it works pretty darn well, when it works. Forced version upgrading can be a blessing, too. (Among the involuntarily blessed )
I'm using qemu more and more, though. No adaptation whatsoever necessary for running Knoppix there,
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7.0.3-CD 'Ripples' screen-savers and Intel i810/GM45
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I believe that the three 'Ripples' screensavers cause some 3d problems
which knock my LiveUSB Compiz off-line. This is a nuisance,
but easily reset with Knoppix>(Re-)start 3D.
The command 'less /var/log/Xorg*|grep -i graph'
indicates my that my laptop has Intel i810/GM45 chipset(s).
I'm disabling all three 'Ripples' screen-savers.
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Solution to module compilation problems with vmware and Knoppix 7.0.3
Both vmnet and vmblock modules fail to compile with Workstation 8.0.4 and 7.0.3. vmnet is the same old problem, vmblock is due to a recent change in kernel code.
All info and patches needed is found (as usual!) on weltall's blog:
http://weltall.heliohost.org/wordpre...-kernel-3-4-0/
Just download and unzip to a suitable directory (I put it under /usr/local/share/patch now, as this looks like routine). Edit script to reflect correct Workstation/Player version. Apply patches to source and you are ready to go - or at least I was
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Originally Posted by
utu
I'm disabling all three 'Ripples' screen-savers.
I am trying out the suggestion on the Compiz wiki that a
certain command should be used to start Compiz for some Intel cards.
http://wiki.compiz.org/Troubleshooti...g_for_problems
At first glance, this seems to enable the three Ripples screen-savers
for me.
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