V7.0.3 LiveDVD-Flash_Installer Error

[Capricorny]

Karibu, I think you just proved that it is not the kernel, it is upgrading some package. If you want to use 3.4.4 kernel with 7.0.2, klaus2008's advice about kernel modules may be exactly what you need, but this exercise was just for testing, not for surgical kernel upgrade.

I think you may safely file a bug report now. But exact model of USB stick must be reported, and the usb package versions in 7.0.2 and 7.0.3 would be fine, too. (Maybe I can help you with that.)

I'm not so sure your command line skills are that modest, but what I suggested was quite a mouthful I could carry it out myself, but I somehow lack the strong motivation, as all my sticks seem to work in 7.0.3. I really appreciate your determination - until enough is enough.

Sent from ordinary 64-bits Ubuntu 12.04 HD install running in chrooted VM, base system Knoppix 7.0.3

[Karibu]

.....replace the large KNOPPIX file in the KNOPPIX folder with the one from Knoppix 7.0.3. In that file are kernel modules...for the Linux kernel 3.4.4.

OK, there we are...not very sophisticated. but it works

Note:
The applied method does not take in consideration any consequences on KK's special packaging for V7.0.3 but only has now a V7.0.2 Installation with Kernel 3.4.4

Task:
Install V7.0.3 to 32 GB USB flash drive - HP V165W -

Preparations:
--- insert V7.0.3 Live DVD (Kernel 3.4.4)
--- copy /KNOPPIX/boot/isolinux to a neutral place
--- copy /KNOPPIX/KNOPPIX to the same
--- eject V7.0.3 Live DVD

Installation:
--- boot from V7.0.2 Live DVD (Kernel 3.3.7)
--- insert flash drive
--- start Knoppix "Install KNOPPIX to flash disk"

When finished:
--- replace isolinux(7.0.2) and KNOPPIX(7.0.2) with the same files of version 7.0.3 as saved earlier.
--- reboot

Sytem installed as V7.0.2 runs now with Kernel 3.4.4.

[Karibu]

I think you may safely file a bug report now. But exact model of USB stick must be reported, and the usb package versions in 7.0.2 and 7.0.3 would be fine, too. (Maybe I can help you with that.)
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Hi Capricorny,
I appreciate your inputs and I come back to your offer to help with a bug report. The main reason is that, in fact, I'm only interested in the lighter V703 CD (- I'm not a gamer and I'm not a SW developer, so I really don't need all those packages at all -) where I have the same KNOPPIX installer issue.

Here some details:

All info from V7.0.3 Live DVD

1) System/Kernel info

knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ uname -ar
Linux Microknoppix 3.4.4 #14 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jun 23 20:07:21 CEST 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
knoppix@Microknoppix:~$

2) ID of HP v165W 32GB USB drive

knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 010: ID 03f0:5307 Hewlett-Packard
knoppix@Microknoppix:~$

3) Installed USB packages

knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ dpkg -l usb*
||/ Name Version Description
+++-=====================-=====================-================================================== ========
ii usb-modeswitch 1.2.3+repack0-1 mode switching tool for controlling "flip flop" USB device
ii usb-modeswitch-data 20120529-1 mode switching data for usb-modeswitch
un usb-modeswitch-data-p <none> (no description available)
ii usbmuxd 1.0.7-2 USB multiplexor daemon for iPhone and iPod Touch devices
ii usbutils 1:005-3 Linux USB utilities
knoppix@Microknoppix:~$

4) Version details not possible because

knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ sudo apt-get install apt-show-versions
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package apt-show-versions
knoppix@Microknoppix:~$

--->apt-show version not available?

I have no experience in bug reports. What do I have to do?

[Capricorny]

I must say that it is only the kernel per se that can be ruled out - but it shouldn't be hard to check the suspected kernel modules either.

As for packages, the method I sketched gave three differences:

> comm usb-modeswitch-data 20120529-1
> libs libusb-0.1-4 2:0.1.12-23
> libs libusb-1.0-0 2:1.0.11-1

The other package versions were the same:

< comm usb-modeswitch 1.2.3+repack0-1 
< libs libusbmuxd1 1.0.7-2 
< libs libusbredirparser0 0.4.3-2 
< utils usbmuxd 1.0.7-2 
< utils usbutils 1:005-3 
< x11 xserver-xorg-video-sisusb 1:0.9.4-3

It was only for this I offered help - have no experience with Debian bug reporting...

[Karibu]

It was only for this I offered help - have no experience with Debian bug reporting...

OK,
Thank you...

maybe I'm the only person having this issue pending....
or maybe somebody else, with more experience, can take over...

[Capricorny]

Because of the sparse population of Knoppix7.0.3*HP 32 GB stick, you may be the only one having experienced this - which doesn't make it any less a bug. And the person to experience a bug, is the who should file it.
As I wrote, you should maybe try try 3.4.4 on 7.0.2 with 3.4.4 USB-related modules too, if you haven't. Three obvious candidates are usb_storage, usbhid and hid, but there may be more.

[Karibu]

Because of the sparse population ..............- which doesn't make it any less a bug. And the person to experience a bug, is the who should file it.

The lack of deeper understanding and knowledge in that matter I just don't feel competent to do so. There might be the chance that some other HP fan might jump in. So long I use a NN 8GB stick, that's fine with me right now...

[Karibu]

Re.: The Mystery USB-flash Disk which works with V702 but does not work with V703!

I just wonder...
Am I really the only one who tries to install KnoppixV703 on the HP (Device 010: ID 03f0:5307 Hewlett-Packard) 32GB USB flash disk?

Despite the relatively high volume in views to this thread, there is still no hint
for a solution so far.....?

PS.:
I tried to figure out what packages, related to USB controller or USB device recognition, are different in V702 and V703, but as I already mentioned, I'm just not educated/experienced enough to find that out.

[Capricorny]

PS.:
I tried to figure out what packages, related to USB controller or USB device recognition, are different in V702 and V703, but as I already mentioned, I'm just not educated/experienced enough to find that out.

I just showed you three of them, not necessarily all, but a place to start.

As for packages, the method I sketched gave three differences:

 
> comm usb-modeswitch-data 20120529-1
> libs libusb-0.1-4 2:0.1.12-23
> libs libusb-1.0-0 2:1.0.11-1

[Karibu]

I just showed you three of them, not necessarily all, but a place to start.

Yes I know, but here is the problem...I just don't know what to start with from there.
This does not help me to understand why the V702 packages

libs libusb-0.1-4: 2:0.1.12-21,
libs libusb-1.0-0: 2:1.0.9-1,
usb-modeswitch-data: 2012012-1

can handle the HP 32GB stick and the newer ones can't.