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    Frequent wifi disconnects & re-connects

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    My laptop has a built-in wifi, rated for class a/b/g and n.

    I have two routers, one from Verizon which is rated for class a/b/g, and connects with WEP.
    the other is a Belkin rated for classes g and n, and connects with WAP.

    I have nominally 15 Mb/s broadband, and 15 internet-near-neighbors, mostly Verizon subscribers
    I would guess from the routers' designations. My routers show 2 to 4 bars, neighbors show 1 or 2.

    My laptop usually connects to either of my routers in a few seconds, with the WAP connection taking
    just slightly longer.

    Over an eight-hour period of occasional, but infrequent on-line use of a given internet
    connection, the Verizon router remains connected continuously, whereas
    over a comparable eight-hour period, the Belkin
    router has 145 disconnect-and-reconnects, averaging about every 3.3 minutes. The disconnected
    period for the Belkin router is usually only about two seconds long.

    If I were not alarmed by all the print-out on /var/log/syslog for the Belkin case, I might not
    be aware of much diffence in browsing performance between the two routers, excepting only the
    occasional time there is a noticeable lag in surfing to a new internet address, presumably
    waiting for one of the two-second-reconnects to complete.

    Any thoughts on what might be troubling my Belkin router would be appreciated.
    Last edited by utu; 01-08-2013 at 08:02 PM.

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    Have you tried changing the channel on the Belkin ? Does the output of
    Code:
     iwlist <interface>scanning
    show other wireless on the same channel, and what does the output of
    HTML Code:
     iwconfig
    suggest as far as link quality etc. ?

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    Greetings, Rusty & thanks for your comments:

    iwlist gives the following info:

    Code:
                        iwlist wlan0 scanning | grep -A 3 Freq > iwlist.txt
                        and some << marginal notes added
    
    
                        Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1)
                        Quality=70/70  Signal level=-34 dBM  <- sometimes   4 bars
                        Quality=45/70  Signal level=-65 dBm  <- other times 2 bars
                        Encryption key:on 
                        ESSID:"belkin.594"                   <- my 'n' router
    --
                        Frequency:2.462 GHz (Channel 11)
                        Quality=35/70  Signal level=-75 dBm  <- 2 bars, usually
                        Encryption key:on
                        ESSID:"WARnet"                       <- a neighbor
    --
                        Frequency:2.462 GHz (Channel 11)
                        Quality=21/70  Signal level=-89 dBm  
                        Encryption key:on
                        ESSID:"2P5U7"
    --
                        Frequency:2.462 GHz (Channel 11)
                        Quality=42/70  Signal level=-68 dBm  <- 2 bars, usually
                        Encryption key:on
                        ESSID:"BUXL3"                        <- my 'g' router
    --
                        Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                        Quality=26/70  Signal level=-84 dBm  
                        Encryption key:on
                        ESSID:"woozle"
    --
                        Frequency:2.462 GHz (Channel 11)
                        Quality=23/70  Signal level=-87 dBm  
                        Encryption key:on
                        ESSID:"EJIM2"
    --
                        Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                        Quality=25/70  Signal level=-85 dBm  
                        Encryption key:on
                        ESSID:"NYM3B"
    --
                        Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1)
                        Quality=23/70  Signal level=-87 dBm  
                        Encryption key:on
                        ESSID:"E5JA2"
    --
                        Frequency:2.462 GHz (Channel 11)
                        Quality=20/70  Signal level=-90 dBm  
                        Encryption key:on
                        ESSID:"418A5"
    --
                        Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1)
                        Quality=31/70  Signal level=-79 dBm  
                        Encryption key:on
                        ESSID:"Amped_SR"
    --
                        Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                        Quality=24/70  Signal level=-86 dBm  
                        Encryption key:on
                        ESSID:"706D1"
    --
                        Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1)
                        Quality=22/70  Signal level=-88 dBm  
                        Encryption key:on
                        ESSID:"K7964"
    --
                        Frequency:2.462 GHz (Channel 11)
                        Quality=20/70  Signal level=-90 dBm  
                        Encryption key:on
                        ESSID:"LNSL7"
    --
                        Frequency:2.462 GHz (Channel 11)
                        Quality=20/70  Signal level=-90 dBm  
                        Encryption key:on
                        ESSID:"UUEL3"
    --
                        Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1)
                        Quality=23/70  Signal level=-87 dBm  
                        Encryption key:on
                        ESSID:"T3P32"
    --
                        Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1)
                        Quality=22/70  Signal level=-88 dBm  
                        Encryption key:on
                        ESSID:""
    --
    iwconfig adds to this only that 'Power Management is Off'.
    --
    I'm not sure I have a channel choice with n mode.

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    You should be able to log on to the Belkin interface and change the channel to one of the unused ones, 9 might be a good choice, and see if it improves things.

    This is a rudimentary introduction into wireless frequencies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels.

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    I'll look into this.
    FYI, I notice in my neighborhood there are 5 users on Channel 1,
    3 users on Channel 6, and 4 users on Channel 11. The other channels are unused.

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    Bummer.
    I'm all alone on channel 4 now, but the disconnects persist.
    Problem serious enough to show on the cpu monitor, and give halting text display.

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    You could use wireshark I suppose to see if there is a lot of negotiation going on between the laptop and the Belkin, or try a connecting to a different N router to see if the problem occurs. Do other N devices connect ok to the Belkin ? Can you restrict the Belkin to N only?

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    Klaus K offered the following advice in this situation.

    In a crowded environment, sometimes it helps to

    1. Reduce (!) Antenna power, so the access point enhances the signal,

    2. Fix the data rate in order to avoid renegotiations.

    sudo iwconfig wlan0 txpower 5mW
    sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M

    You can try different values, of course.
    The most important is to avoid an "auto" setting, since this triggers renegotiations.

    Regards
    -Klaus
    I think the combination of Klaus's suggestion and Rusty's has greatly improved the
    situation here. While waiting to see if this holds, I'll research Wireshark.

    Thanks, Rusty.

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    Status update:

    With both using Klaus K's and Rusty's suggestions together, my
    broadband situation is now (more) tolerable. My cpu is usage way down, but
    with n-mode router and n-mode laptop, I am still getting about a page
    a minute of /var/log/syslog showing two-second re-acquisitions every
    one or two minutes.
    Broadband speed tests usually show a generous broadband download number.

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    utu, just from my own experience:
    When such problems can not be fully related to known bugs or the operation setting, most of the time they have been due to hardware failures/glitches. In hindsight, I have tolerated way too much reconnecting, restarting etc instead of just putting in a new piece of hardware. (In one case with fibre last summer, it turned out the new receiver was grilled, signals were too strong at my location and had to be dampened.) Have you tried with an alternative router to see if the problems persist?
    To me, it might seem like your measures have speeded up reconnection, the fallout being less influenced?

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