Knoppix V7.2.0

[Jeffery Mewtamer]

I have downloaded, burned, and booted the new Adriane, and so far I have just two questions: Why was Firefox/Iceweasel removed from the Graphical Programs menu, and how can I manually restore its menu entry? Considering that Iceweasel is the only Graphical Application I still use, launching a full x session seems like overkill, not to mention that I find the rest of the desktop just gets in the way. I might be alone in this opinion, but it seems a siginificant downgrade in useability.

[otropogo]

Corrupted copy of K7.2 en DVD on kernel.org?

I set Seamonkey to download the 3.8 GB (non-boot) version of 7.2 DVD en from kernel.org via http last night, and it seemed to be downloading steadily as I went to bed. But when I checked this morning, the browser download manager showed the download as finished, and the downloaded file showed as a complete iso in the download directory on my hard drive, but both browser and file manager showed the iso's size as only 1.5GB.

I then ran md5sum on the iso, and it returns the sum:

d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e KNOPPIX_V7.2.0DVD-2013-06-16-EN2.iso

NOT the md5sum for the file listed on kernel.org:

836d36f87624c930a8ee375ca5492d69 *KNOPPIX_V7.2.0DVD-2013-06-16-EN.iso

Since Seamonkey thinks the file downloaded successfully, there's no way to resume the download, IF it was somehow botched. The logical conclusion seems to be that the file is corrupted or misnamed on kernel org.

I'd like to avoid having this happen again, so can anyone direct me to a mirror site where they know the file is available and passes the md5sum test?

[patelbhavesh]

Corrupted copy of K7.2 en DVD on kernel.org?

I set Seamonkey to download the 3.8 GB (non-boot) version of 7.2 DVD en from kernel.org via http last night, and it seemed to be downloading steadily as I went to bed. But when I checked this morning, the browser download manager showed the download as finished, and the downloaded file showed as a complete iso in the download directory on my hard drive, but both browser and file manager showed the iso's size as only 1.5GB.

I then ran md5sum on the iso, and it returns the sum:

d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e KNOPPIX_V7.2.0DVD-2013-06-16-EN2.iso

NOT the md5sum for the file listed on kernel.org:

836d36f87624c930a8ee375ca5492d69 *KNOPPIX_V7.2.0DVD-2013-06-16-EN.iso

Since Seamonkey thinks the file downloaded successfully, there's no way to resume the download, IF it was somehow botched. The logical conclusion seems to be that the file is corrupted or misnamed on kernel org.

I'd like to avoid having this happen again, so can anyone direct me to a mirror site where they know the file is available and passes the md5sum test?

I have learned the hard way in the past is that downloading huge files via browsers is not fool proof.
So in this particular situation I can recommend that you run the following command in a windows command prompt or on Unix shell
wget ---complete <url from kernel.org of the iso>

wget is available on most OS'es including windows.
Before you discard your 1.5gb file i highly recommend trying the above command as it has worked for me in the past to resume a botched file download via browser.

it is unlikely that the file on kernel.org is corrupted as I checked the file size via curl command.But i cant be 100% sure though as I don't have the file yet myself.

[otropogo]

I have learned the hard way in the past is that downloading huge files via browsers is not fool proof.
So in this particular situation I can recommend that you run the following command in a windows command prompt or on Unix shell
wget ---complete <url from kernel.org of the iso>

wget is available on most OS'es including windows.
Before you discard your 1.5gb file i highly recommend trying the above command as it has worked for me in the past to resume a botched file download via browser.

it is unlikely that the file on kernel.org is corrupted as I checked the file size via curl command.But i cant be 100% sure though as I don't have the file yet myself.

Thanks for your reply. My own preference has always been to download with a download manager. But for some time now I've been unable to do this with Knoppix downloads.

I did try with kernel org, but ran into two problems

1. when I open the download url with the browser, the navigation bar lists only "knoppix.org".

2. when I go looking for the download by navigating the directories on kernel org, I'm unable to log in for access.

I'm not familiar with either the wget or the curl command, but I am familiar with incomplete downloads, and they typically appear with a text icon and the extension .part in my file manager. The 1.5GB file I described had the .iso extension and the proper icon.

Furthermore, when Seamonkey's download is interrupted, it typically resumes the download the very next time the browser is online. I tested this yesterday, and it works as expected. So, with all due respect for your curl test, I still think there's reason to believe that the file is mislabeled or corrupted on kernel.org, and would rather not tie up my bandwidth and use up my limited monthly download quota on a second attempt without some assurance that I'm downloading a good copy.

[otropogo]

Strangely, Knoppix 7.2 en displays a time that is 4 hours behind the actual clock setting of my PC. I've looked through the apps menus several times, and couldn't find anything that seemed to address clock settings. How can I correct the clock?

I've also been unable to download signature updates for ClamTK, although the scheduling window shows the updates as being scheduled. Both the gui version and the signature are flagged with a red dot and the words ""new version available", and "outdated", but there seems to be no way to fix the problem. No manual update option is shown for either, no online help files are available, and I have no idea where to find the ClamAV documentation I installed.

[Harry Kuhman]

Corrupted copy of K7.2 en DVD on kernel.org?

I set Seamonkey to download the 3.8 GB ....
I'd like to avoid having this happen again, ....

Before the Torrents were available I had about 50% bad downloads of the Knoppix ISO when using a browser. Including my very first Knoppix download. I tracked down that problem and it is an issue with some Linux based servers treating the file as a text file rather than a binary file and doing a translation on it, but that doesn't seem to be the problem here. But the important thing is that once the torrents started to become available, I never had to download with a browser again. I've had error free downloads since. My downloads are much much faster. And I've even been able to help people repair flawed downloads by restarting the torrent client and let it quickly repair the download by just bringing down a few needed parts (the poor guy had stopped his download as soon as the client reported 100% rather then letting the download finish cleanly, otherwise he would not have had a problem either).

BitTorrent clients are not only for illegal things, they can be quite useful for valid downloads such as Knoppix too. It should take only a few minutes to learn to set up a torrent client, far less time than time lost when you have to deal with a bad or aborted browser download. You get that time back with a much faster download. And torrent downloads can be stopped and restarted at any time. I never use "download managers", those things are more trouble than they are worth and often bring in unwelcome problems hidden in the applications. For best performance with a torrent client it can be helpful to forward an incoming port range on your router. (You are using a router, aren't you? Not using one is dangerous, nearly insane.) If you're unclear about what forwarding ports means than that will cost you a few more minutes to research and learn, but it will make the downloads go even faster and it will enhance your understanding of Internet protocols, and will be good knowledge for far more than just this.

To avoid problems like this, I strongly suggest that you use a torrent client and download Knoppix with the posted torrent links rather than taking it from any mirror server. Torrents add extra error checking (so much so that I don't even bother to do the MD5 check any more, although in all honesty it is still a good quick check to avoid making a coaster). If you do get a bad block of a file they will detect it and repair it automagically. You can shut down the download at any time, and when restarting it will check what you have and only download missing parts or parts that need repaired. You can ever pull off some tricks moving around files and use a torrent client to repair a bad download that originally came in through a browser, but it is far better to just use the torrent client for Knoppix downloads in the first place. Torerents avoid bottlenecks from a single source, they get you parts from all over the globe, so you can be downloading the files much faster than from a single source. back in the days of the Knoppix CD I used to have to search several servers before I could even find one where the estimated download time was less than 24 hours, my first Knoppix CD torrent download took me about 2 hours. And speeds have greatly improved since then.

Sure, some of you have not used a torrent in the past and it is slightly outside your "comfort level". Wasn't Knoppix or Linux new to you at some point too? Don't cripple yourself by sticking with a bad tool that doesn't do the job well when there are good tools available and people will to help you learn how to use them. Or, if you want to stay with the "I just want to download with my browser" mentality, then maybe Windows is a better choice for you.

By the way, typically when I see an error that talks about a file as large as a DVD ISO downloading but then showing up as a file smaller than 2 gig. it usually turns out to be a file size problem with either the application of the file system. Modern torrent clients have no problem with crossing this size barrier. So as long as you are not downloading to a file system that can't deal with files larger than 2 gig then just try using a torrent client and see if it isn't a lot better.

The Knoppix torrent tracker is here:
http://torrent.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/
and the torrents include all of the extra handy files like the md5 check sum and text documents, no need to track them down later.