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    Knoppix Doesn't Boot On Windows 8.1

    Hello everyone,

    I have used Knoppix with great success for years.

    I recently had to change my PC and was therefore forced to move to Windows 8.1 and since I haven't been able to run Knoppix (newer or older versions).
    Apart that Windows 8.1 has this new bios which I don't like at all, the best I can get from it is a blinking cursor at reboot and than nothing happens.

    These are my PC specs:

    http://prntscr.com/2m0h0n

    Please let me know if you need any more info and thanks to all who will help.

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    Greetings, Threshold.

    I may have had somewhat the same experience as you.
    I have a Window 7 machine which I also use for Knoppix.
    I also have a Window 8 machine.

    Knoppix 7.2 doesn't boot on my Windows 8.0 machine as delivered.
    It looks as if I could disable uefi and Knoppix might work, but
    then I'd have no access to Windows 8. You may have this same
    unsatisfactory choice. I'm hoping Klaus K or someone on this
    forum has a better option for us.

    Klaus K often updates Knoppix about the time of the
    annual CeBIT symposium. I'm hoping a better treatment of uefi
    might be one new features in Knoppix this year, but I have not
    heard any such hopeful news.

    __________________________________________________ __________

    Interesting prntscr.com png. Are you aware of Knoppix's built-in
    Screenshot on the Accessories menu?

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    Hello utu!

    I am going mental with this new bios.

    What I am trying to do is copying some files from an ext3 formatted usb drive to Windows but so far I have yet to find a way.
    I also tried running Knoppix in Virtualbox which works but than i don't know how to see the aforementioned ext3 usb drive attached to Windows (who would like to format it after i attach it.)
    If anyone has a solution to this I'd appreciate it.

    Going back to booting in Knoppix I still need that in case I need to repair my system.
    Searching the web i found these 2 articles which might be useful to you too:

    1) http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-...ws-8-computer/

    I followed the instructions but whatever i chose it won't work
    If i chose to boot from the dvd than all i get is a black screen and a white, still cursor.
    So i have no clue really

    2)https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD

    Here they present a more definitive solution but i am very wary of trying it as i am not that experienced and I only have one PC.
    I am afraid of locking myself put for good and not even having knoppix to attempt anything.

    Let me know

    Thanks
    Last edited by Werner P. Schulz; 01-27-2014 at 09:30 AM. Reason: full quote deleted

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    ps. a reference

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    I have two Dell laptops, both 64-bit machines. One laptop is
    Windows 7, before uefi, and one is Windows 8.0 with uefi.

    My Knoppix 7.2 LiveUSBs are made from Knoppix 7.2 LiveCDs,
    which I believe all have only 32-bit kernels and 32-bit efi
    programs.

    The following link includes some comments by Klaus K in regard
    to uefi booting Knoppix 7.2

    http://web.archiveorange.com/archive...AbcuDOuICojYbJ

    The reference leads me to believe that using the OEM boot choices
    on uefi machines assume that if it's a 64-bit machine, the boot up
    process expects to find a 64-bit kernel and a 64-bit bootloading
    program on the non-Windows medium selected for an alternate uefi boot.

    I'm not familiar with Knoppix's 7.2 LiveDVD, but I expect it
    may well have a 64-bit kernel and boot loader options built-in,
    whereas the LiveCD does not.

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    So I have finally managed to disable UEFI and get the option to boot from a dvd.

    Unfortunately whatever I try to boot from (Knoppix, Ubuntu, Xubuntu) stops halfway.

    The screen resolution changes constantly and the monitor loses the signal several times and than I only get some garbled colours like when you try to play an encrypted video or just a black screen.


    For Knoppix I get the "loading sequence" announcement and the splash screen with the penguin but than it stops there.

    Any idea what causes this?

    Thank you.
    Last edited by Werner P. Schulz; 01-27-2014 at 09:28 AM. Reason: full quote deleted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threshold View Post
    Any idea what causes this?
    Have you done testdvd and checksum tests on the dvd?
    Last edited by utu; 01-27-2014 at 04:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utu View Post
    Have you done testdvd and checksum tests on the dvd?
    Hi utu,

    Do you mean testing the knoppix image after downloading it?
    I did the md5 test and it completed successfully.

    Anyway i loaded all these images into Virtualbox and they work fine so i guess they are all right.
    Unfortunately i don't know if it's possible to access my ext3 usb drive from Knoppix, loaded into Virtualbox, and if so how to do it.

    Anyway i'd like to be able to have a functioning copy of Knoppix in case I run into any PC issues as it has saved me in the past many times.

    Thank you.

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    .. if it's possible to access my ext3 usb drive from Knoppix, loaded into Virtualbox ..
    After starting Knoppix in the VirtualBox go to the menu of VirtualBox => Geräte => USB-Geräte (I think in english "Devices => USB devices") and select your ext3 usb drive. After a short time you'll see it within PCManFM and you can mount it with a mouse click.

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    The screen resolution changes constantly and the monitor loses the signal several times and than I only get some garbled colours like when you try to play an encrypted video or just a black screen.
    I think your graphics adapter is too new to be fullly supported by Knoppix 7.2.0. You could try cheatcodes like nodrm or nofb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Werner P. Schulz View Post
    After starting Knoppix in the VirtualBox go to the menu of VirtualBox => Geräte => USB-Geräte (I think in english "Devices => USB devices") and select your ext3 usb drive. After a short time you'll see it within PCManFM and you can mount it with a mouse click.
    Hello Werner P. Schulz thanks for the help.

    I did attempt that too so your directions are correct but than i cannot see the drive anywhere.
    When i select the hdd it gets disconnected in Windows (who wants to format it) and it is reconnected in VB.
    I looked for it in the file manager that is on Knoppix desktop but cannot find it anywhere.
    Is that PCManFM or where is this PCManFM located?

    Also how do i mount the drive when i find it?

    Thank you

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