Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12

Thread: using knoppix tohd=/dev/sda1 boot option when sda1 is an external USB HD

  1. #1
    Member registered user
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    31

    using knoppix tohd=/dev/sda1 boot option when sda1 is an external USB HD

    knoppix tohd=/dev/sda1 boot option does not seem to work when /dev/sda1 is an external USB hard drive. It this the expected behavior?

  2. #2
    Moderator Moderator
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Germany/ Dietzenbach
    Posts
    1,124
    'Are you sure, your external drive is '/dev/sda' and the partition is '/dev/sda1'? Please boot Knoppix again without the cheatcode "tohd=/dev/sda1" an tell us the output from
    Code:
    blkid
    and
    Code:
    fdisk -l

  3. #3
    Member registered user
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    31
    I've already checked this, but I'll try again after the machine finishes a 24-hour memory check. What log files should I look at then? The machine is old and may have intractable hardware problems, but I can use it a little longer if I can get Knoppix running with persistence. It boots reliably only from the DVD drive. (The external USB drive is the only other functioning drive on the machine, and it comes up as sda.)

  4. #4
    Member registered user
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    31
    Tried again. The USBHDD is installed as sda. There is nothing obvious to the untutored eye in the dmesg methods that describe detecting and installing sda. There seem to be no messaged from Knoppix in /var/log. But the files are simply not copied to the USBHDD with option tohd.

    If tohd is known to work for USB hard drives, then I will simply write this off to hardware failure in an old computer.

  5. #5
    Moderator Moderator
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Germany/ Dietzenbach
    Posts
    1,124
    What you want to install is the "Poor man's install" as I described it at
    http://knoppix.net/wiki/Category:Har...e_Installation
    and I never heard from other peoples about problems using an USB drive for this method.

    But it's a little tricky to boot this installaton. If your BIOS can boot with the USB drive, why not use "Flash disk Install to HD" or "HD Install"?

  6. #6
    Member registered user
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    31
    If your BIOS can boot with the USB drive, why not use "Flash disk Install to HD" or "HD Install"?

    That works fine when it works, but more often than not, I get messages saying that the boot medium is defective (though the flash drive works consistently on another machine, and I get the same messages about defective medium using a perfectly good Puppy Linux bootable flash drive). The capability to boot from USB was added only in the final upgrade version for that BIOS before it was discontinued, and so any bugs would have gone unfixed. I can only boot reliably from the DVD drive, so it would be nice to boot from the DVD and then transfer control to the external drive. But I guess that box is headed for the junk heap.

  7. #7
    Moderator Moderator
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Germany/ Dietzenbach
    Posts
    1,124
    You can create a Knoppix boot-CD or download a bootonly CD from the Knoppix mirrors.

  8. #8
    Member Blacksimon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Italy
    Posts
    93
    Are you sure you mean tohd and not fromhd option ?

  9. #9
    Member registered user
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    31
    Quote Originally Posted by Werner P. Schulz View Post
    You can create a Knoppix boot-CD or download a bootonly CD from the Knoppix mirrors.
    But I require persistence as well, have only an external USB hard drive to work with, and no USB boot.

  10. #10
    Member registered user
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    31
    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksimon View Post
    Are you sure you mean tohd and not fromhd option ?
    Yes. I first tried these options on another computer in a virtual machine to see how they work. They work as advertised on a virtual hard drive. In contrast, on my target machine, with only an external USB hard drive, tohd fails to copy the knoppix files to the external hard drive. Apart from ignoring the boot option, it boots normally, with no relevant messages.

    Since the hard disk is probably installed earlier in the boot process than USB devices, it seems possible that tohd might not work with USB devices.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


1U Supermicro Server 10 Bay 2x Intel Xeon 3.3Ghz 8C 128GB RAM 480GB SSD 2x 10GBE picture

1U Supermicro Server 10 Bay 2x Intel Xeon 3.3Ghz 8C 128GB RAM 480GB SSD 2x 10GBE

$273.00



Cisco UCS C220 M4 1x Xeon E5-2667 V4 3.20GHZ 128GB DDR4-2400MHZ 2x 770W AC PSU picture

Cisco UCS C220 M4 1x Xeon E5-2667 V4 3.20GHZ 128GB DDR4-2400MHZ 2x 770W AC PSU

$129.99



Dell Poweredge R630 Server 2x E5-2620 V4 =16 Cores | S130 | 32GB RAM | 2x trays picture

Dell Poweredge R630 Server 2x E5-2620 V4 =16 Cores | S130 | 32GB RAM | 2x trays

$153.99



Dell Poweredge R720xd 2x Xeon E5-2670 2.6GHz 16-Cores  64gb  H710p  26x Trays picture

Dell Poweredge R720xd 2x Xeon E5-2670 2.6GHz 16-Cores 64gb H710p 26x Trays

$339.99



DELL R630 SERVER 8 x 2.5'' 2X E5-2680V4 32GB RAM IDRAC ENT & NDC 2X 495W PSU picture

DELL R630 SERVER 8 x 2.5'' 2X E5-2680V4 32GB RAM IDRAC ENT & NDC 2X 495W PSU

$169.95



Dell PowerEdge R630 Server 2x E5-2640v3 2.60Ghz 16-Core 64GB H330 picture

Dell PowerEdge R630 Server 2x E5-2640v3 2.60Ghz 16-Core 64GB H330

$182.65



Dell PowerEdge R730XD 28 Core Server 2X Xeon E5-2680 V4 H730 128GB RAM No HDD picture

Dell PowerEdge R730XD 28 Core Server 2X Xeon E5-2680 V4 H730 128GB RAM No HDD

$389.99



HP ProLiant DL380 Gen9 2U Server 24 BAY 2.5

HP ProLiant DL380 Gen9 2U Server 24 BAY 2.5" Xeon E5-2680 v4 64GB RAM H240ar

$159.99



Dell Poweredge R220 Server Xeon E3-1270 v3 3.5ghz Quad Core / 16gb / 1x Tray picture

Dell Poweredge R220 Server Xeon E3-1270 v3 3.5ghz Quad Core / 16gb / 1x Tray

$139.99



Dell PowerEdge R630 Server | 2x E5-2620 V4 = 16 Cores | H730 | 32GB RAM | 4xRJ45 picture

Dell PowerEdge R630 Server | 2x E5-2620 V4 = 16 Cores | H730 | 32GB RAM | 4xRJ45

$252.99