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    Sony Vaio hangs - help!

    I am trying to run Knoppix 3.2 on a Sony Vaio PCG-F290 (PIII 350 + 192MB of RAM). This laptop has some hardware problems with APM and ACPI - even an installation of Windows 98 is a pain - anything else after that does not work. The issue is with APM/ACPI on the motherboard.

    When I boot knoppix from CD I make sure to set:

    knoppix lang=en noapm no apic

    As soon as I get loading vmlinux the laptop shuts itself down (same problem when trying to install Win2K/XP/Linux Mandrake during setup).

    Any ideas if i can get knoppix running on this? I did manage to get Win98 running and Win95.

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    If you can find something in the bios settings, perhaps you should turn it off (APM/ACPI).

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    Gosh, I'd tell you to throw it down the drain. And save the proc and mem.

    I had such horrible problems trying to get my sister's PIII 600 working with ME (as installed)I could curse myself for trying. Even with 98SE, all it is is a glorified word-processor for all the crashes and weird hangs.

    I count it up to Sony trying to recoup their loss in the consumer market.

    Nothing I know of has fixed them. I now believe they were flawed to begin with. Geesh, you had an earlier model?!?! My sympathies.

    A fan of Sony, I hope they have fixed it. I'll never know. I buy OTHER. It was a lesson too expensive to repeat.

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    There are no settings to disable APM/ACPI in the BIOS. The culprit is the main processor speed reduction system - thus resulting the system to slow the speed of the fans and literally shut down. Saying so - no help from Sony other than offering to change the MB for some $$$$. This seems to be a problem with most VAIO PCG-F2xx laptops.

    Since I am able to get Win95 running and Win98 running (by disabling APM and ACPI) I think there should be a way how to get Knoppix running. Any insight in how to disable acpi/apm checking would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdeli
    There are no settings to disable APM/ACPI in the BIOS. The culprit is the main processor speed reduction system - thus resulting the system to slow the speed of the fans and literally shut down. Saying so - no help from Sony other than offering to change the MB for some $$$$. This seems to be a problem with most VAIO PCG-F2xx laptops.

    Since I am able to get Win95 running and Win98 running (by disabling APM and ACPI) I think there should be a way how to get Knoppix running. Any insight in how to disable acpi/apm checking would be appreciated.
    Have you tried just failsafe at the boot: prompt it will boot with minimal hardware checking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen
    Have you tried just failsafe at the boot: prompt it will boot with minimal hardware checking.
    Failsafe does not work. In the meantime I did manage to get an installation of Mandrake 9.1 working by disabling apm & hlt during the setup process (linux apm=off no-hlt).

    From the research I have done so far it seems that most PCG-F series laptops are plagued with this problem and it is not just Sony which lies at fault - it seems that the processors used by Intel are defective. More info here: http://pub173.ezboard.com/funofficia...icID=818.topic

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    noapm

    What kind of bios do you have? AMI, Award?

    I don't know whether you mistyped, but I would assume you typed

    knoppix lang=en noapm noapic

    Indeed, I've read the post about sony's problem. It is sad. I can sympathised.

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    Re: noapm

    Quote Originally Posted by RapidFire
    knoppix lang=en noapm noapic
    Yes this is exactly what I did. Failsafe does not work either. The only linux distro I managed to install was Mandrake since it has the option to disable hlt whilst installing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdeli
    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen
    Have you tried just failsafe at the boot: prompt it will boot with minimal hardware checking.
    Failsafe does not work. In the meantime I did manage to get an installation of Mandrake 9.1 working by disabling apm & hlt during the setup process (linux apm=off no-hlt).

    From the research I have done so far it seems that most PCG-F series laptops are plagued with this problem and it is not just Sony which lies at fault - it seems that the processors used by Intel are defective. More info here: http://pub173.ezboard.com/funofficia...icID=818.topic
    Thank you for posting this. My wife bought a VAIO laptop (on my recommendation, I'm afraid) with an Athlon XP processor (VAIO model PCG-FXA47, IIRC), that suffers the same problem in WinXP. Haven't tried it with any version of linux yet. I did a comprehensive reformat and reinstall of OS, software and drivers, but problem still persists. Consequently, I had to give up an HP desktop to her so that she could get her work done, and I was going to use the VAIO as a testbed for a Mandrake install (for learning, not to solve the problem, necessarily).

    One of the things I've noticed, interestingly, is that the problem seemed to manifest itself when the laptop was connected to an ethernet WinXP p2p network. I've run the box separate from the network without incident. I tried turning off the power management settings, with no effect.

    BTW, as I was checking the Sony website to verify the model number, I ran across a BIOS upgrade (for my wife's laptop, anyway) that corrects a freezing condition associated with the SP1 patch for WinXP. Come to think of it, the problem started right about the time that SP1 came out (I remember having a devil of a time getting it installed). I'm going to check it out, and I thought you might want to as well. YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j.drake
    Come to think of it, the problem started right about the time that SP1 came out (I remember having a devil of a time getting it installed). I'm going to check it out, and I thought you might want to as well. YMMV.
    You might be lucky if the BIOS will fix it, but from my experience and all research I made it seems that it is more of a hardware problem. If you are good at soldering you might want to get the hardware fix from here http://www.vaioshutdown.com/

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