Seriously Miffed @ KDE!!! PLEASE HELP!!!

[A. Jorge Garcia]

OK, I am REALLY miffed!

I've been using KNOPPIX since V2.2 Final. I've never had a problem like this thru V3.1. I have this problem with every release of V3.2 I've tried (the first one in Jan, the first one in May and 20030606).

I teach C++ and Java to preAP and AP Computer Science students in a High School setting. I've got them pretty comfortable with Linux in general and KNOPPIX in particular as well as using /mnt/floppy to save/load their files. They typically use Konqueror to download assignments from my website, KATE to edit/save/print their code and Konsole to compile and execute. I don't get into EMACS or VI or MAKE or any fancy IDEs. This worked great for us thru V3.1 (we used V3.1 20030101 all last semester without a hitch as a poor man's dual boot).

OK, here's the problem. Ever since V3.2 everything works great except printing files from KATE. Now I don't know if its KATE or the KNOPPIX Printer Configuration for CUPS, but the whole system freezes-up when I print from KATE. I get a message that kate is preparing to print page 1, then NOTHING happens! This happens no mater what printer I use (local, tcp/ip, laser or deskjet). The same configuration works fine in pre V3.2 for all these printers (BTW, I only have HP)!

I am REALLY frustrated with this. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, could you PLEASE suggest a solution?

Now, you might say, "why not stick to V3.1 20030101 if its so great?" Well, that is an option. But I was trying to get the latest KNOPPIX I could get to start next term so my kids could use the latest GCC GCJ libraries as they keep getting updated (GCJ/JIG still doesn't have AWT or SWING quite right). I don't know about Balckdown Java....

Another alternative, I suppose, is to have the students still boot to a poor man's dual boot and then have them log-in to a server on the LAN that I have knx-hdinstalled with a full download of Sun's Java SDK 1.4.1.... How do i set-up a thin-client for this?

TIA,

[A. Jorge Garcia]

Here's an update. I was mistaken, the PC doesn't freeze as I can start other apps in KDE. However, the print job freezes!

Also, it would seem that KATE is not at fault. It must be CUPS. I wrote a C++ *.cc file in KWRITE and everything works except printing! Is there something wrong with the CUPS drivers or the KNOPPIX Printer Configuration tool????

What freezes is the app I'm printing from with some sort of message like:

generating print data
print page 1 <close>

This message just stays there and nothing prints. What's up with that!

ARRGGGHHHH!!!!! HELP!

[fingers99]

I'm not running 3.2, but in 3.1 I had to use the web page CUPS setup.

http://localhost:631/


Otherwise I could get no sense out of my printing.

Interesting that you're teaching C++ and (eeek!) Java. I'd have thought that Smalltalk (Squeak) or even Python might be more fun/more suitable at that level.

[A. Jorge Garcia]

To fingers99:
I never had a problem with CUPS in 3.1, but I'll try your suggestion! I just go in Konqueror and surf to http://localhost:631? What does that do?

As far as language is concerned, I've taught preAP and APCS since 1988 (program started in 1984) with various languages required at the college level that are not my choice (such as Pascal, C++ and now Java).

I'd like to try using GNU GCC's gcj for java on KNOPPIX as GNU GCC's g++ for c++ on KNOPPIX worked so well for us last year. BTW, we've even used QBASIC and VBASIC in the preCS class!

Regards,

[fingers99]

What does that do?

Just gives you CUPS native Webmin-like admin tool. It's "fairly" intuitive.

[A. Jorge Garcia]

To fingers99:
Well, I tried http://localhost:631 from Konqueror while running the KNOPPIX CD and got "could not connect to localhost posr 631."

Now what?

TIA!

[paradocs]

Hi All,

I am here to learn. I hope there are some good
posts about printer basics.

Greetings A. J. Garcia

I am working now from the DVD version with no hard drive.
I do get Kate to print on my HP722c
My printer shows up in
ControlCenter --> Peripherals -->Printers
I am sure you have tried this and suspect
this is the same as the latest CD version.

A solution I use at times is to print to a postscript
file xxxxxx.ps and then click on the postscript
file and it comes up in Konqueror which will then
print it. From the command line of VIM
---> :hardcopy>temp.ps

I know that you are expert a dealing with the students
and the powers that be -- so I understand that
a simple editor is best. But GVIM starting
in the insert mode is not too difficult and the color
highlighting printout is awesome.

Best Wishes
paradocs

[fingers99]

AJ, did you see this post?

http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3600

[A. Jorge Garcia]

Thanx fingers99, but that post didn't help either. It said to goto the a shell and type "sudo cupsd" but nothing happended. So I opened a root shell and typed just "cupsd" and only got the following output:
cupsd: Child exited with status 98!

What the heck is going on here???

I've tried the KNOPPIX Printer Configuration Tool with Local and Networked printers, with HP DeskJets and HP LaserJets, with the new recommended hp driver and with the old patched hp driver. BTW, all this worked fine in V3.1. Nothing Works Now!

I tried printing from KWrite and Kate, they freeze. BTW, I used those editors because of the syntax color coding for C++ and Java (that's all the IDE I need). Then I tried another app. I opened one of the LinuxTag *.pdf files on the CD with Acrobat, tried to print and BOOM freeze again!

The problem must be CUPS or the KNOPPIX Printer Configuration Tool.

REALLY FRUSTRATED,

[A. Jorge Garcia]

Is there something fundamentally different about how CUPS or the KNOPPIX Printer Configuration Tool works in V3.2 as compared to V3.1??? WHat am I missing. Am I clueless suddenly? Please clue me in!

TIA,