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    9/05/03 too many broken things, rolling back to 4/5/03

    Hi;

    I upgraded my hdd install from 4/5/03 to 9/05/03.

    I noticed changes, not all for the better.

    I uninstalled 9/05/03, did a clean reinstall just to check and then reinstalled 4/5/03.

    I have new hardware. I bought my system in March 2003.

    4/05/03 detected and configured all of my hardware perfectly without any effort from me.

    9/05/03:

    - didn't quite get my monitor (multisyncy lcd 1530v ) right. When I hit the
    autoconfigure on the monitor the words became blurry and half of my
    "screen" shot off to the right horizontally. 4/05/03 worked perfectly
    with the autoconfigure.

    - 4/05/03 all I had to do to get xine working was to dowload the dvd cracker
    libs mentioned in the faq. No fuss, no muss. 9/05/03 set /dev/dvd to
    "Knoppix/dev/dvd". It also could not detect my dvd player properly
    running dmesg produced all sorts of errors. Trying to start xine made
    it and the terminal hang.

    - using XMMS to play a cd resulted in XMMS trying to play my radio
    card instead. no such problem in 4/05/03.

    - icewm 1.2.12 is BUGGY.


    I don't want to complain for no reason.

    If someone who has the power to change knoppix wants to work with me to figure out this apparent step backwards I will be glad to keep my system as it is for a few days to try to debug things so Knoppix can keep getting better with newer versions.

    Thanks in advance

    Steve

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    Re: 9/05/03 too many broken things, rolling back to 4/5/03

    Quote Originally Posted by beforewisdom
    Hi;

    I upgraded my hdd install from 4/5/03 to 9/05/03.

    I noticed changes, not all for the better.

    I uninstalled 9/05/03, did a clean reinstall just to check and then reinstalled 4/5/03.

    I have new hardware. I bought my system in March 2003.

    4/05/03 detected and configured all of my hardware perfectly without any effort from me.

    9/05/03:

    - didn't quite get my monitor (multisyncy lcd 1530v ) right. When I hit the
    autoconfigure on the monitor the words became blurry and half of my
    "screen" shot off to the right horizontally. 4/05/03 worked perfectly
    with the autoconfigure.

    - 4/05/03 all I had to do to get xine working was to dowload the dvd cracker
    libs mentioned in the faq. No fuss, no muss. 9/05/03 set /dev/dvd to
    "Knoppix/dev/dvd". It also could not detect my dvd player properly
    running dmesg produced all sorts of errors. Trying to start xine made
    it and the terminal hang.

    - using XMMS to play a cd resulted in XMMS trying to play my radio
    card instead. no such problem in 4/05/03.

    - icewm 1.2.12 is BUGGY.


    I don't want to complain for no reason.

    If someone who has the power to change knoppix wants to work with me to figure out this apparent step backwards I will be glad to keep my system as it is for a few days to try to debug things so Knoppix can keep getting better with newer versions.

    Thanks in advance

    Steve
    For the last one with icewm, thats a problem of debian ... Anyway good to know ...

    The /dev/dvd-Problem did I introduce ... Sorry for that.

    Just do as root:

    rm -f /dev/dvd
    ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd

    rm -f /dev/cdaudio
    ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/cdaudio

    And dvd and audio should work again ...

    Hm, for the monitor problem, could you try to boot the CD with "knoppix noddc" or "knoppix xvrefresh=75" or "knoppix xvrefresh=60" ...

    Then if you have a working configuration copy /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to /yourrootpart/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ...

    Yes, we did change something in X-Detection-Process ... (So that some people can work with 100 Hz )

    Please report a bug for that last one ...

    Kano deserves it

    cu

    Fabian

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    Re: 9/05/03 too many broken things, rolling back to 4/5/03

    Quote Originally Posted by Fabianx

    For the last one with icewm, thats a problem of debian ... Anyway good to know ...

    The /dev/dvd-Problem did I introduce ... Sorry for that.

    Just do as root:

    rm -f /dev/dvd
    ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd

    rm -f /dev/cdaudio
    ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/cdaudio

    And dvd and audio should work again ...

    Hm, for the monitor problem, could you try to boot the CD with "knoppix noddc" or "knoppix xvrefresh=75" or "knoppix xvrefresh=60" ...

    Then if you have a working configuration copy /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to /yourrootpart/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ...

    Yes, we did change something in X-Detection-Process ... (So that some people can work with 100 Hz )

    Please report a bug for that last one ...

    Kano deserves it

    cu

    Fabian
    None of that helped.

    I can roll back to a June release of Knoppix I have that works out of the box.

    However, I would like to help debug 9/5/03.

    Working through the forum is kind of slow and frustrating.

    I would be willing to make an appointment to meet via IM ( or private irc channel ) sometime this weekend to help debug all of this...........if that is helpful to you/the knoppix people.

    If it isn't let me know and I will just roll back.

    If you think it would be helpful to future knoppix releases post some times you can do it this weekend. I am in the eastern time zone in the US.

    Steve

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