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    Knoppix 3.3 hangs inserting a PCMCIA Compact Flash

    I dont know if this is the right forum for my problem.
    Feel free to redirect me to the correct one.


    I have a MSI Hermes-651P desktop computer

    http://www.msi.com.tw/program/produc...il.php?UID=418

    with a PCMCIA slot.

    I use a Knoppix 3.3 (19 nov 2003) both from CDROM,
    and from HD (the system is working without glitches
    with Slackware, Mandrake,RedHat and Window$ XP too).

    Running Knoppix, inserting a 64 MB Compact Flash into slot 0, the machine hang.
    The /var/log/messages follows:

    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    ---- This are the messages for embedded IDE controllers
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Dec 8 14:00:55 andrewh3 kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
    Dec 8 14:00:55 andrewh3 kernel: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
    Dec 8 14:00:55 andrewh3 kernel: hda: attached ide-disk driver.
    Dec 8 14:00:55 andrewh3 kernel: hda: host protected area => 1
    Dec 8 14:00:55 andrewh3 kernel: hda: 156355584 sectors (80054 MB) w/1819KiB Cache, CHS=9732/255/63
    Dec 8 14:00:55 andrewh3 kernel: ide-cd: passing drive hdc to ide-scsi emulation.
    Dec 8 14:00:55 andrewh3 kernel: hdc: attached ide-scsi driver.
    Dec 8 14:00:55 andrewh3 kernel: Partition check:
    Dec 8 14:00:55 andrewh3 kernel: hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 hda7 > hda4
    Dec 8 14:00:55 andrewh3 kernel: ide: late registration of driver.
    ...
    ...
    ...
    --- Insert the PCMCIA card
    Dec 8 14:02:13 andrewh3 kernel: hde: SanDisk SDCFB-64, CFA DISK drive
    Dec 8 14:02:13 andrewh3 kernel: ide2 at 0x100-0x107,0x10e on irq 7
    Dec 8 14:02:13 andrewh3 kernel: hde: attached ide-disk driver.
    --- System hangs -----


    Note that on same system RedHat 8.0 is able to get the card
    inserted:

    Dec 8 14:25:26 andrewh2 kernel: hde: SanDisk SDCFB-64, ATA DISK drive
    Dec 8 14:25:26 andrewh2 kernel: ide2 at 0x100-0x107,0x10e on irq 9
    Dec 8 14:25:26 andrewh2 kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide
    Dec 8 14:25:26 andrewh2 kernel: hde: 125440 sectors (64 MB) w/1KiB Cache, CHS=490/8/32
    Dec 8 14:25:26 andrewh2 kernel: hde: hde1
    Dec 8 14:25:26 andrewh2 kernel: ide_cs: hde: Vcc = 3.3, Vpp = 0.0
    Dec 8 14:25:26 andrewh2 cardmgr[604]: executing: './ide start hde'
    ...
    ---- Is now possible to mount the file system on the card


    Last, the same card is working without problems on a IBM laptop
    with the same Knoppix 3.3 bootstraped from CDROM.

    Any suggestions ?

    Thanks in advance

    *am*

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    Re: Knoppix 3.3 hangs inserting a PCMCIA Compact Flash

    Quote Originally Posted by amontefusco

    --- Insert the PCMCIA card
    Dec 8 14:02:13 andrewh3 kernel: hde: SanDisk SDCFB-64, CFA DISK drive
    Dec 8 14:02:13 andrewh3 kernel: ide2 at 0x100-0x107,0x10e on irq 7
    Dec 8 14:02:13 andrewh3 kernel: hde: attached ide-disk driver.
    --- System hangs -----
    It is getting attached to the ide-disk driver instead of the ide_cs that the redhat install is using below.

    Dec 8 14:25:26 andrewh2 kernel: ide_cs: hde: Vcc = 3.3, Vpp = 0.0
    Now if the ide-disk driver works like the ide-cd driver and you can pass the option to tell it to ignore say a hdc which is a burner and you want it to use the ide-scsi instead of ide-cd so you can burn then you should be able to create a file in /etc/modutils/ and have the contents put into the /etc/modules.conf to have the option used at boot.

    To do this create a file say pcmciafix in the directory /etc/modutils with these contents:
    Code:
    ## Added by me to fix pcmcia being detected incorrectly as ide-disk
    options ide-disk ignore=hde
    Then you would run update-modules to update the /etc/modules.conf with the changes to be used for the next boot. Now this is just a shot in the dark with me assuming that the ide-disk works the same as the ide-cd driver I have never tried it so I'm not sure it will work, all of this done as root.

    A last thought it may be as simple as modifying the append line in the /etc/lilo.conf and instead of there being a hde=scsi make it hde=ide-cs and then run /sbin/lilo -v to update lilo with the changes and have them used on next boot this done as root also, now this one is totally a guess. Anyways the problem is the ide-disk taking over the card when inserted instead of ide-cs so if these suggestions do not work that is where you need to start searching for the cause of the problem.

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    Re: Knoppix 3.3 hangs inserting a PCMCIA Compact Flash

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen

    Now if the ide-disk driver works like the ide-cd driver and you can pass the option to tell it to ignore say a hdc which is a burner and you want it to use the ide-scsi instead of ide-cd so you can burn then you should be able to create a file in /etc/modutils/ and have the contents put into the /etc/modules.conf to have the option used at boot.

    To do this create a file say pcmciafix in the directory /etc/modutils with these contents:
    Code:
    ## Added by me to fix pcmcia being detected incorrectly as ide-disk
    options ide-disk ignore=hde
    Then you would run update-modules to update the /etc/modules.conf with the changes to be used for the next boot. Now this is just a shot in the dark with me assuming that the ide-disk works the same as the ide-cd driver I have never tried it so I'm not sure it will work, all of this done as root.

    A last thought it may be as simple as modifying the append line in the /etc/lilo.conf and instead of there being a hde=scsi make it hde=ide-cs and then run /sbin/lilo -v to update lilo with the changes and have them used on next boot this done as root also, now this one is totally a guess. Anyways the problem is the ide-disk taking over the card when inserted instead of ide-cs so if these suggestions do not work that is where you need to start searching for the cause of the problem.

    I did it

    cat /proc/cmdline
    BOOT_IMAGE=Linux ro root=304 hda=scsi hdb=scsi hdc=scsi hde=ide-cs apm=power-off nomce

    but without luck.
    Inserting the card I got again
    Code:
    Dec  8 21:53:51 andrewh3 cardmgr[276]: initializing socket 0
    Dec  8 21:53:51 andrewh3 cardmgr[276]: socket 0: ATA/IDE Fixed Disk
    Dec  8 21:53:51 andrewh3 cardmgr[276]:   product info: "SunDisk", "SDP", "5/3 0.6"
    Dec  8 21:53:51 andrewh3 cardmgr[276]:   manfid: 0x0045, 0x0401  function: 4 (fixed disk)
    Dec  8 21:53:51 andrewh3 cardmgr[276]: executing: 'modprobe ide-cs'
    Dec  8 21:53:53 andrewh3 kernel: hde: SanDisk SDCFB-64, CFA DISK drive
    Dec  8 21:53:53 andrewh3 kernel: ide2 at 0x100-0x107,0x10e on irq 7
    Dec  8 21:53:53 andrewh3 kernel: hde: attached ide-disk driver.
    the cardmgr is loading the correct module ide-cs but, as you pointed out,
    the ide-disk prevails.

    *am*

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    You do not mention if you tried the the option ignore file have you? Other than that I think I am out of ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen
    You do not mention if you tried the the option ignore file have you? Other than that I think I am out of ideas.
    Yes, I tried but without changes on the error pattern.

    *am*

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