klik: point-and-klik software store for Knoppix

[Vick]

Where can we find an exemple of the klik recipe(DataBase) and how is it setup on the server ?

Can you show us one exemple please? or a link to download one?
Nice work

[Fabianx]

Heh,

seems that we again did duplicate work, but my live-installer works with apt-get ...

Didn't you see the beta-test ANNOUNCE ?

Its also a one-click-warehouse and supports nvidia ...

and will be on _next_ (?) Knoppix ... (Klaus promised ...)

cu

Fabian

[A. Jorge Garcia]

I just tried to install klik with a regular shell from one of my user accounts (not root) and all installed correctly and runs from the <K><apps(installed by klik)> menu.

VERY COOL!!!

Thanx,
AJG

[probono]

Where can we find an exemple of the klik recipe(DataBase) and how is it setup on the server ?

Can you show us one exemple please? or a link to download one?
Nice work

I am working on a interface to see and add the recipes. The Idea is to have *one* central server (not like apt-get where you have many "inofficial" repositories) that hosts the recipes. This is all extremely new (just a few hours old) so please apologize I am not there yet. It will come soon.

[probono]

seems that we again did duplicate work, but my live-installer works with apt-get ...

Fabian, I saw and tried it (didn't really get it running, though). Even though it tries to do similar things as does your script, klik uses a very different approach. Your scripts can even be nicely integrated into the klik store, as the flash example (it just runs your script from the user's CD locally) shows.

[Fabianx]

seems that we again did duplicate work, but my live-installer works with apt-get ...

Fabian, I saw and tried it (didn't really get it running, though). Even though it tries to do similar things as does your script, klik uses a very different approach. Your scripts can even be nicely integrated into the klik store, as the flash example (it just runs your script from the user's CD locally) shows.

Yes, or vice versa ...

What I mean is the following:

What in my installer is called "module" is in your installer a "recipe" ...

So there is not much difference ... (Ok, yours works online, but mine could have integrated an online-update service as well ...)

cu

Fabian

PS: Ok, using different directories for software is a change ....

[Fabianx]

I've now installed Jap, Real8, and Smbk4. After you feel comfortable with your refinements, it would be nice to submit Klik to Klaus so it could be included in Knoppix.

Thanks for your Kudos

Before we submit it for inclusion in Knoppix, we need to solve one problem: http://klik.berlios.de/ only contains the "klik recipes" on how to install software, not the actual software packages itself. These are downloaded from various sources throughout the internet. This is fine for many files, but some files tend to be highly "volatile". e. g. debian sid packages get updated once in a while and then become unavailable through the debian mirrors, which then breaks the "klik recipes". We then cannot simply use the newer packages because that often would break Knoppix dependencies. Therefore, we need a way to "archive" the packages we use in klik.

That would be no problem, there is http://snapshot.debian.net/ it says it has all
packages since 2002/06/04 archived.

cu

Fabian

[Fabianx]

Interesting, hadn't yet seen mosex...

What I have been working on, is getting apt-get to work (dpkg already does, has been a long-standing issue), having scripts and a browser to do this might be more useful than using synaptic (ie. do _exactly_ what Click&Run does. I've been discussing this with a few Debian guys too, could be automated using the Trove hierarchy and an extra database. oh well, ranting on and on like usual...)

Still, I'll try it out in Morphix KDE a bit more. I'll keep in touch and let you know if there are any issues using klik

(btw, Sun has been keeping contact, it feels like being the bug that is looked at by a mean kid with some huge looking glass )

Hey alextreme,

apt-get to get working is extremly easy with an wrapper ...

Please see modules/apt-get in _my_ live-installer:

http://debian.tu-bs.de/knoppix/live_inst/

and take some newer version ...

cu

Fabian

PS: Or just see: man apt-get last section

[Vick]

Yes i see whats the point... but please i whant to know whats in the file! hum? lets say RealPlayer... so i can enderstand what it dose and then i can know how i can help you.

[probono]

That would be no problem, there is http://snapshot.debian.net/ it says it has all
packages since 2002/06/04 archived.

That's *great* to know, Fabian. Now I am a bit more relaxed.

Do you have a reliable method to find out the exact Knoppix version, even if hd-installed?