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  1. #31
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    Cuddles,

    Before you try going on the internet, first thing to do is as Champagnemojo said: apt-get remove --purge all alsa related files that you previously downloaded. That should take the defeunct alsa files out of /lib/modules/current kernel folder. If you see another kernel folder besides the one you're using, the alsa modules aren't installed to work with the correct kernel. This is where you're having problems for starters. This means you'll have to apt-get remove --purge all the alsa-base, alsa-utils, alsa-modules stuff you apt-get installed earlier. Then open a terminal shell, and stop alsad or kill it. Then apt-get remove --purge alsad and you should recover your modem drivers and settings, hopefully. Reboot. If that does takes care of your modem, then going forward for sound, you'll only need to apt-get install alsa-base, alsa-utils and alsa-source, nothing else. Unpack the alsa source into /usr/src/modules directory and then cd to alsa. Open a terminal in that folder, then type ./configure, let it do its thing, then type make and let it do its thing. Finally, switch to root and use your password then type make install to install your alsa module(s). Then type modconf to load the sndcore and alsa module. Exit and then type update-modules and then reboot. Hopefully, alsa will kick in and load the appropriate additional modules as needed for sound and you should be good to go from there without any further problems.

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    Ok, I've done the following, and then did them again... So, this was the outcome...

    apt-get --purge remove alsa-base
    Result: Package not installed, so not removed...
    apt-get --purge remove alsa-utils
    Result: Package not installed, so not removed...
    apt-get --purge remove alsadriver
    Result: Package not installed, so not removed...
    apt-get --purge remove alsad
    Result: Package not installed, so not removed...

    Upon reboot, same error messages, same files mentioned in above post, and same no-modem.

    It appears that "apt-get" is not completely removing all of what it was told to remove, and purge... Time to fall-back, and re-group yet???

    Cuddles

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    Cuddles,

    You may have to delete the alsa files manually. I have done the same when I ran into dependency issues like you did. First thing I did though, was to delete them from the hard drive before I found out about the apt-get remove --purge command. I wish I had known that, but it didn't do my installation any worse by deleting the files and directories manually. (This habit is a leftover from my windows background, so don't feel left out.) Despite being a newbie in Linux, I kind of knew what to look for and blew it away and started over. You can go ahead and delete those alsa files you found that weren't properly removed. Then I would suggest that you open a terminal and check for any orphans by typing deborphan for any strays that needs to be removed. Once you delete those, post back and let us know if it restores the modem functionality. I don't know if it's too sick to be nursed back to health, but this would count as a valuable learning experience for all of us if you somehow succeeded in getting your installation working again.

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    Make sure that the brltty I think is called is purged as well it takes over the serial port to connect to a braille terminal, it may have been started somehow or the settings may be interfering.

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    Ok, lets step back and re-group here...

    2Stephen, apt-get --purge remove brltty - doesn't exist, or installed message...

    Can someone just "read" my last two post, or maybe three - NOTHING ALSA is installed - yet, if I look in /lib/modules/... no file or directory called "extra" exists - so my BOOT MESSAGES - that I POSTED in a previous post, are correct...

    AGAIN -=- I found the modules that are "including" these "false" locations in /etc/... (see my previous post) and was wondering if they could be removed to solve the boot/shutdown problems.

    SOMEONE -=- PLEASE -=- READ MY PREVIOUS POSTS -=- NOTHING EXISTS ON MY SYSTEM THAT IS ALSA AT ALL -=- BUT -=- I still have modules that are being "trying" to load, but DON'T EXIST.

    In /etc/modutils/ -=- I still have two files: alsa-0.9-knoppix and 1alsa - these two files are EXACTLY what my boot/shutdown messages are screaming about - and these SAME TWO files have folder locations that are no longer existant, but point to ALSA specific locations, again, that DON'T EXIST anymore...

    To be more redundant, because no one ever gave me any feedback on the original post that had that information...

    SOMEONE -=- PLEASE -=- READ MY PREVIOUS POSTS

    Thank you, can we proceed here - I think I can only run "apt-get remove --purge" on the EXACT SAME FILES only so many times, and then it becomes redundant to do them anymore - we are currently around five times of them, all, now. If I run them SIX times, I don't think it is going to change anything, anymore.

    Cuddles

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    Lets start again, here is what I did, and then all the things I undid...

    I had done...
    apt-get -u install alsa-base alsa-utils

    Commented out my sound card entry in /etc/modules
    Added in bootmisc.sh -- aumix -w 75 -v 75

    What I have undone...
    apt-get --purge remove alsa-base alsa-utils knx-alsa

    and then apt-get --purge remove alsad

    Uncommented out my sound card in /etc/modules and commented out aumix in bootmisc.sh

    Have done repeated apt-get removes from all above, and even apt-get -f thing without anything after it...

    What I have gotten...
    No Modem connection...
    Modules that are related to ALSA, even though the modules themselves don't exist, the system is STILL TRYING to load them, and unload them, on boot/shutdown.

    I have installed NOTHING else, nor have I removed anything else - though I can locate the modules that are being fired off in the /etc/modutils folder, these files contain entries to NON-EXISTANT ALSA locations, AND, are the exact messages that on boot/shutdown that are failing with the messages I reported in my previous posts.

    I have proposed possible resolve of these problems, and nothing has been said to if those assumptions are correct, false, or even acknowledged.

    All I know is: I can't get to my external modem through my serial port, that used to work, until I did the apt-get remove of alsa-base alsa-utils and knx-alsa -=- of these three packages - I NEVER installed knx-alsa, but DID remove it. Messages (errors) are showing up on boot, and shutdown, that can be found directly in /etc/modutils/ folder in two files named alsa-0.9-knoppix and 1alsa, and as far as modules for different kernel versions - I only have one directory under the one mentioned, the one for my kernel - no extra, frivalous, or unknown kernel images other than the one I am on - 2.4.22-xfs

    Cuddles

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    Some files and contents from "extracting" on the "defunct" system, using a floppy to get output to working (internet) system...

    modules contents:
    # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
    #
    # This file should contain the names of kernel modules that are
    # to be loaded at boot time, one per line. Comments begin with
    # a `#', and everything on the line after them are ignored.
    rtc
    usb-uhci
    usb-storage
    serial
    parport_pc
    # commented below out for ALSA support 20040226
    #via82cxxx_audio
    msdos
    ntfs
    nls_iso8859-1
    ext3
    agpgart
    reiserfs
    xfs
    minix
    hfs
    efs
    autofs4

    modules.conf contents...
    ### This file is automatically generated by update-modules"
    #
    # Please do not edit this file directly. If you want to change or add
    # anything please take a look at the files in /etc/modutils and read
    # the manpage for update-modules.
    #
    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/0keep
    # DO NOT MODIFY THIS FILE!
    # This file is not marked as conffile to make sure if you upgrade modutils
    # it will be restored in case some modifications have been made.
    #
    # The keep command is necessary to prevent insmod and friends from ignoring
    # the builtin defaults of a path-statement is encountered. Until all other
    # packages use the new `add path'-statement this keep-statement is essential
    # to keep your system working
    keep

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/0keep

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/1alsa
    path[]=/lib/modules/extra/alsa
    depfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.dep
    generic_stringfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.generic_string
    pcimapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.pcimap
    isapnpmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.isapnpmap
    usbmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.usbmap
    parportmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.parportmap
    ieee1394mapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.ieee1394map
    pnpbiosmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.pnpbiosmap

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/1alsa

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/actions
    # Special actions that are needed for some modules

    # The BTTV module does not load the tuner module automatically,
    # so do that in here
    post-install bttv insmod tuner
    post-remove bttv rmmod tuner


    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/actions

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/aliases
    # Aliases to tell insmod/modprobe which modules to use

    # Uncomment the network protocols you don't want loaded:
    # alias net-pf-1 off # Unix
    # alias net-pf-2 off # IPv4
    # alias net-pf-3 off # Amateur Radio AX.25
    # alias net-pf-4 off # IPX
    # alias net-pf-5 off # DDP / appletalk
    # alias net-pf-6 off # Amateur Radio NET/ROM
    # alias net-pf-9 off # X.25
    # alias net-pf-10 off # IPv6
    # alias net-pf-11 off # ROSE / Amateur Radio X.25 PLP
    alias net-pf-17 af_packet # Packet socket (tcpdump)
    # alias net-pf-19 off # Acorn Econet

    alias via82cxxx via82cxxx_audio
    alias char-major-10-175 agpgart
    alias char-major-10-200 tun
    alias char-major-81 bttv
    alias char-major-108 ppp_generic
    alias /dev/ppp ppp_generic
    alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async
    alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty
    alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
    alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
    alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate

    # Crypto modules (see http://www.kerneli.org/)
    alias loop-xfer-gen-0 loop_gen
    alias loop-xfer-3 loop_fish2
    alias loop-xfer-gen-10 loop_gen
    alias cipher-2 des
    alias cipher-3 fish2
    alias cipher-4 blowfish
    alias cipher-6 idea
    alias cipher-7 serp6f
    alias cipher-8 mars6
    alias cipher-11 rc62
    alias cipher-15 dfc2
    alias cipher-16 rijndael
    alias cipher-17 rc5

    # Name inconsistency in 2.4 Kernel series
    alias ide_cs ide-cs
    alias usbcore off
    alias autofs autofs4

    # If both mousedev and usbmouse are insmodded, neither of them works right.
    # Adding solution proposed by Kai Lehmann:
    alias usbmouse mousedev
    # Same for USB keyboards, which should be used in hid generic mode instead
    alias usbkbd hid

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/aliases

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/alsa-0.9-knoppix
    # --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
    # --- ALSACONF version 0.9.0-knoppix ---
    alias char-major-116 snd
    alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx
    alias char-major-14 soundcore
    alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
    alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
    alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
    alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
    alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
    alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
    options snd major=116 cards_limit=1 device_gid=29 device_mode=0660
    options snd-via82xx index=0
    # --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---


    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/alsa-0.9-knoppix

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/apm
    alias char-major-10-134 apm
    alias /dev/apm_bios /dev/misc/apm_bios
    alias /dev/misc/apm_bios apm
    options apm power_off=1

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/apm

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/autofs
    probe autofs autofs4 autofs

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/autofs

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/ftape-util
    #
    # load ftape/zftape automatically
    #

    # valid for all versions with zftape
    alias char-major-27 zftape

    # Bleeding edge ftape driver from ftape-module

    options ftape ft_fdc_driver=ftape-internal,none,none,none
    options ftape-internal ft_fdc_base=0x3f0 ft_fdc_irq=6 ft_fdc_dma=2
    pre-install ftape-internal /usr/bin/swapout 15

    # ftape driver from 2.2 kernel (Comment previous three lines and uncomment the next one)

    # options ftape ft_fdc_rate_limit=1000 ft_fdc_threshold=16 ft_fdc_base=0x360 ft_fdc_irq=9 ft_fdc_dma=3

    # You may need to fine tune the parameters. See the ftape documentation for more details

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/ftape-util

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/ipx.aliases
    alias net-pf-4 ipx

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/ipx.aliases

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/irda
    alias tty-ldisc-11 irtty
    # The following is for new kernel.
    alias char-major-161 ircomm-tty

    # The following is for old kernel.
    alias char-major-60 ircomm_tty

    # To be able to attach some dongles
    alias irda-dongle-0 tekram
    alias irda-dongle-1 esi
    alias irda-dongle-2 actisys
    alias irda-dongle-3 actisys
    alias irda-dongle-4 girbil
    alias irda-dongle-5 litelink
    alias irda-dongle-6 airport
    alias irda-dongle-7 old_belkin

    # FIR device drivers.
    # options smc-ircc ircc_irq= ircc_dma=
    # alias irda0 smc-ircc
    # options toshoboe max_baud=
    # alias irda0 toshoboe
    # options w83977af_ir io= io2= irq= qos_mtt_bits=
    # alias irda0 w83977af_ir

    # To use the NSC driver on a Thinkpad laptop: uncomment the following:
    # options nsc-ircc dongle_id=0x09
    # alias irda0 nsc-ircc

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/irda

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/mt-st
    # Reset the st driver on module insertion...
    post-install st /etc/init.d/mt-st modload > /dev/null 2> /dev/null

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/mt-st

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/paths
    # This file contains a list of paths that modprobe should scan,
    # beside the ones that are compiled into the modutils tools
    # themselves.


    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/paths

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/ppp
    alias /dev/ppp ppp_generic
    alias char-major-108 ppp_generic
    alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async
    alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty
    alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
    alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
    alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/ppp

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/raidtools2
    alias md-personality-1 linear
    alias md-personality-2 raid0
    alias md-personality-3 raid1
    alias md-personality-4 raid5

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/raidtools2

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/setserial
    #
    # This is what I wanted to do, but logger is in /usr/bin, which isn't loaded
    # when the module is first loaded into the kernel at boot time!
    #
    #post-install serial /etc/init.d/setserial start | logger -p daemon.info -t "setserial-module reload"
    #pre-remove serial /etc/init.d/setserial stop | logger -p daemon.info -t "setserial-module uload"
    #
    alias /dev/tts serial
    alias /dev/tts/0 serial
    alias /dev/tts/1 serial
    alias /dev/tts/2 serial
    alias /dev/tts/3 serial
    post-install serial /etc/init.d/setserial modload > /dev/null 2> /dev/null
    pre-remove serial /etc/init.d/setserial modsave > /dev/null 2> /dev/null

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/setserial

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/arch/i386
    alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
    alias char-major-10-144 nvram
    alias binfmt-0064 binfmt_aout
    alias char-major-10-135 rtc
    # no warnings to stderr on KNOPPIX
    insmod_opt=-q

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/arch/i386

    1alsa contains...
    path[]=/lib/modules/extra/alsa
    depfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.dep
    generic_stringfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.generic_string
    pcimapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.pcimap
    isapnpmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.isapnpmap
    usbmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.usbmap
    parportmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.parportmap
    ieee1394mapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.ieee1394map
    pnpbiosmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.pnpbiosmap

    alsa-0.9-knoppix contains...
    # --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
    # --- ALSACONF version 0.9.0-knoppix ---
    alias char-major-116 snd
    alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx
    alias char-major-14 soundcore
    alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
    alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
    alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
    alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
    alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
    alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
    options snd major=116 cards_limit=1 device_gid=29 device_mode=0660
    options snd-via82xx index=0
    # --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---

    Cuddles

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    Cuddles, for comparison, my files:

    /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
    #
    # This file should contain the names of kernel modules that are
    # to be loaded at boot time, one per line. Comments begin with
    # a `#', and everything on the line after them are ignored.
    rtc
    apm power_off=1
    usb-uhci
    usb-ohci
    hid
    mousedev
    keybdev
    usb-storage
    serial
    bttv
    nls_cp437
    nls_iso8859-1
    tvaudio
    tuner
    msdos
    ntfs
    ext3
    agpgart
    reiserfs
    xfs
    minix
    hfs
    efs
    snd-via82xx
    autofs4
    snd-pcm-oss
    ~

    /etc/modules.conf

    ### This file is automatically generated by update-modules"
    #
    # Please do not edit this file directly. If you want to change or add
    # anything please take a look at the files in /etc/modutils and read
    # the manpage for update-modules.
    #
    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/0keep
    # DO NOT MODIFY THIS FILE!
    # This file is not marked as conffile to make sure if you upgrade modutils
    # it will be restored in case some modifications have been made.
    #
    # The keep command is necessary to prevent insmod and friends from ignoring
    # the builtin defaults of a path-statement is encountered. Until all other
    # packages use the new `add path'-statement this keep-statement is essential
    # to keep your system working
    keep

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/0keep

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/1alsa
    path[]=/lib/modules/extra/alsa
    depfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.dep
    generic_stringfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.generic_string
    pcimapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.pcimap
    isapnpmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.isapnpmap
    usbmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.usbmap
    parportmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.parportmap
    ieee1394mapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.ieee1394map
    pnpbiosmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.pnpbiosmap

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/1alsa

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/actions
    # Special actions that are needed for some modules

    # The BTTV module does not load the tuner module automatically,
    # so do that in here
    post-install bttv insmod tuner
    post-remove bttv rmmod tuner


    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/actions

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/aliases
    # Aliases to tell insmod/modprobe which modules to use

    # Uncomment the network protocols you don't want loaded:
    # alias net-pf-1 off # Unix
    # alias net-pf-2 off # IPv4
    # alias net-pf-3 off # Amateur Radio AX.25
    # alias net-pf-4 off # IPX
    # alias net-pf-5 off # DDP / appletalk
    # alias net-pf-6 off # Amateur Radio NET/ROM
    # alias net-pf-9 off # X.25
    # alias net-pf-10 off # IPv6
    # alias net-pf-11 off # ROSE / Amateur Radio X.25 PLP
    alias net-pf-17 af_packet # Packet socket (tcpdump)
    # alias net-pf-19 off # Acorn Econet

    alias via82cxxx via82cxxx_audio
    alias char-major-10-175 agpgart
    alias char-major-10-200 tun
    alias char-major-81 bttv
    alias char-major-108 ppp_generic
    alias /dev/ppp ppp_generic
    alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async
    alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty
    alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
    alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
    alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate

    # Crypto modules (see http://www.kerneli.org/)
    alias loop-xfer-gen-0 loop_gen
    alias loop-xfer-3 loop_fish2
    alias loop-xfer-gen-10 loop_gen
    alias cipher-2 des
    alias cipher-3 fish2
    alias cipher-4 blowfish
    alias cipher-6 idea
    alias cipher-7 serp6f
    alias cipher-8 mars6
    alias cipher-11 rc62
    alias cipher-15 dfc2
    alias cipher-16 rijndael
    alias cipher-17 rc5

    # Name inconsistency in 2.4 Kernel series
    alias ide_cs ide-cs
    alias usbcore off
    alias autofs autofs4

    # If both mousedev and usbmouse are insmodded, neither of them works right.
    # Adding solution proposed by Kai Lehmann:
    alias usbmouse mousedev
    # Same for USB keyboards, which should be used in hid generic mode instead
    alias usbkbd hid
    alias char-major-195 nvidia

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/aliases

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/alsa
    ### DEBCONF MAGIC
    # This file was automatically generated by alsa-base's debconf stuff

    alias char-major-116 snd
    alias char-major-14 soundcore

    options snd major=116 cards_limit=4

    alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
    alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
    alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
    alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
    alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
    alias /dev/dsp* snd-pcm-oss

    alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx

    alias snd-slot-0 snd-card-0
    alias sound-slot-0 snd-slot-0

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/alsa

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/alsa-0.9-knoppix
    # --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
    # --- ALSACONF version 0.9.0-knoppix ---
    alias char-major-116 snd
    alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx
    alias char-major-14 soundcore
    alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
    alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
    alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
    alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
    alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
    alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
    options snd major=116 cards_limit=1 device_gid=29 device_mode=0660
    options snd-via82xx index=0
    # --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---


    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/alsa-0.9-knoppix

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/apm
    alias char-major-10-134 apm
    alias /dev/apm_bios /dev/misc/apm_bios
    alias /dev/misc/apm_bios apm
    options apm power_off=1

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/apm

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/autofs
    probe autofs autofs4 autofs

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/autofs

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/ftape-util
    #
    # load ftape/zftape automatically
    #

    #

    # valid for all versions with zftape

    alias char-major-27 zftape

    # Bleeding edge ftape driver from ftape-module

    options ftape ft_fdc_driver=ftape-internal,none,none,none
    options ftape-internal ft_fdc_base=0x3f0 ft_fdc_irq=6 ft_fdc_dma=2
    pre-install ftape-internal /usr/bin/swapout 15

    # ftape driver from 2.2 kernel (Comment previous three lines and uncomment the next one)

    # options ftape ft_fdc_rate_limit=1000 ft_fdc_threshold=16 ft_fdc_base=0x360 ft_fdc_irq=9 ft_fdc_dma=3

    # You may need to fine tune the parameters. See the ftape documentation for more details

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/ftape-util

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/ipx.aliases
    alias net-pf-4 ipx

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/ipx.aliases

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/irda
    alias tty-ldisc-11 irtty
    # The following is for new kernel.
    alias char-major-161 ircomm-tty

    # The following is for old kernel.
    alias char-major-60 ircomm_tty

    # To be able to attach some dongles
    alias irda-dongle-0 tekram
    alias irda-dongle-1 esi
    alias irda-dongle-2 actisys
    alias irda-dongle-3 actisys
    alias irda-dongle-4 girbil
    alias irda-dongle-5 litelink
    alias irda-dongle-6 airport
    alias irda-dongle-7 old_belkin

    # FIR device drivers.
    # options smc-ircc ircc_irq= ircc_dma=
    # alias irda0 smc-ircc
    # options toshoboe max_baud=
    # alias irda0 toshoboe
    # options w83977af_ir io= io2= irq= qos_mtt_bits=
    # alias irda0 w83977af_ir

    # To use the NSC driver on a Thinkpad laptop: uncomment the following:
    # options nsc-ircc dongle_id=0x09
    # alias irda0 nsc-ircc

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/irda

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/linux-wlan-ng
    # Aliases to tell insmod/modprobe which module to use when bringing up the
    # wlan0 interface.

    # Uncomment the line corresponding to the type of prism2 device you have.
    alias wlan0 prism2_pci
    #alias wlan0 prism2_usb
    #alias wlan0 prism2_cs
    #alias wlan0 prism2_plx


    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/linux-wlan-ng

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/lvm-common
    # The Logical Volume Manager uses these block and char numbers
    alias block-major-58 lvm-mod
    alias char-major-109 lvm-mod

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/lvm-common

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/mt-st
    # Reset the st driver on module insertion...
    post-install st /etc/init.d/mt-st modload > /dev/null 2> /dev/null
    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/mt-st

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/paths
    # This file contains a list of paths that modprobe should scan,
    # beside the ones that are compiled into the modutils tools
    # themselves.


    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/paths

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/ppp
    alias /dev/ppp ppp_generic
    alias char-major-108 ppp_generic
    alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async
    alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty
    alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
    alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
    alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/ppp

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/raidtools2
    alias md-personality-1 linear
    alias md-personality-2 raid0
    alias md-personality-3 raid1
    alias md-personality-4 raid5

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/raidtools2

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/setserial
    #
    # This is what I wanted to do, but logger is in /usr/bin, which isn't loaded
    # when the module is first loaded into the kernel at boot time!
    #
    #post-install serial /etc/init.d/setserial start | logger -p daemon.info -t "setserial-module reload"
    #pre-remove serial /etc/init.d/setserial stop | logger -p daemon.info -t "setserial-module uload"
    #
    alias /dev/tts serial
    alias /dev/tts/0 serial
    alias /dev/tts/1 serial
    alias /dev/tts/2 serial
    alias /dev/tts/3 serial
    post-install serial /etc/init.d/setserial modload > /dev/null 2> /dev/null
    pre-remove serial /etc/init.d/setserial modsave > /dev/null 2> /dev/null

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/setserial

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/arch/i386
    alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
    alias char-major-10-144 nvram
    alias binfmt-0064 binfmt_aout
    alias char-major-10-135 rtc
    # no warnings to stderr on KNOPPIX
    insmod_opt=-q

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/arch/i386


    /etc/modutils/1alsa:


    path[]=/lib/modules/extra/alsa
    depfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.dep
    generic_stringfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.generic_string
    pcimapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.pcimap
    isapnpmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.isapnpmap
    usbmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.usbmap
    parportmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.parportmap
    ieee1394mapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.ieee1394map
    pnpbiosmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.pnpbiosmap

    /etc/modutils/alsa-0.9-knoppix:

    # --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
    # --- ALSACONF version 0.9.0-knoppix ---
    alias char-major-116 snd
    alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx
    alias char-major-14 soundcore
    alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
    alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
    alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
    alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
    alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
    alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
    options snd major=116 cards_limit=1 device_gid=29 device_mode=0660
    options snd-via82xx index=0
    # --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---


    Which is as clear as mud, to me, at least. But it does suggest that a shedload of modules are not being loaded.

    I think that something pretty catastrophic has happened. I think that chances of recovery in the short term are slim. I'd be inclined to backup (should be easy enough if you've a seperate /home) and re-install.

    First you might like to boot from the CD with

    knoppix alsa

    at the boot: prompt. If you can play sound, at least we know that Alsa will work on your system! Test that alsamixer works.

    Next, with the CD booted with knoppix alsa, do a knx-hdinstall through a Konsole or Xterm (not in console only mode). This should -- it does on my system anyway -- force Alsa to be loaded. Why is something of a mystery, but may explain why I've not needed to run /etc/init.d/alsa-autoconfig.

    alsa_init should start alsa. This should be the very first thing you test, before you migrate your /home and so on.

    You're looking at maybe a couple of hours work to get up and running again. Then you can start earning money!

  9. #39
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    Cuddles,

    I re-read all of the posts in this thread. The clue to the source of the error messages?:

    (1)
    Begin:

    Stephen, I am not sure if this "did" anything, how can I check?

    I did the /etc/init.d/alsa-autoconfig -=- and added aumix -w [space] 75 -v [space] 75 to the script you stated - and then rebooted. I still can not get alsamixer to run, I get the same error:

    alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory

    End:

    That's what is trying to initialize alsa the whole time. Also, I noticed these entries in your modutils file:

    (2)
    Begin:

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/1alsa
    path[]=/lib/modules/extra/alsa
    depfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.dep
    generic_stringfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.generic_string
    pcimapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.pcimap
    isapnpmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.isapnpmap
    usbmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.usbmap
    parportmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.parportmap
    ieee1394mapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.ieee1394map
    pnpbiosmapfile=/lib/modules/extra/modules.pnpbiosmap

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/1alsa
    <snip>
    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/alsa-0.9-knoppix
    # --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
    # --- ALSACONF version 0.9.0-knoppix ---
    alias char-major-116 snd
    alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx
    alias char-major-14 soundcore
    alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
    alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
    alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
    alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
    alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
    alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
    options snd major=116 cards_limit=1 device_gid=29 device_mode=0660
    options snd-via82xx index=0
    # --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---


    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/alsa-0.9-knoppix
    <snip>
    (3)
    *What happened here? Looks like the serial port was unloaded and turned off*

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/setserial
    #
    # This is what I wanted to do, but logger is in /usr/bin, which isn't loaded
    # when the module is first loaded into the kernel at boot time!
    #
    #post-install serial /etc/init.d/setserial start | logger -p daemon.info -t "setserial-module reload"
    #pre-remove serial /etc/init.d/setserial stop | logger -p daemon.info -t "setserial-module uload"
    #
    alias /dev/tts serial
    alias /dev/tts/0 serial
    alias /dev/tts/1 serial
    alias /dev/tts/2 serial
    alias /dev/tts/3 serial
    post-install serial /etc/init.d/setserial modload > /dev/null 2> /dev/null
    pre-remove serial /etc/init.d/setserial modsave > /dev/null 2> /dev/null

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/setserial
    <snip>

    alsa-0.9-knoppix contains...
    # --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
    # --- ALSACONF version 0.9.0-knoppix ---
    alias char-major-116 snd
    alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx
    alias char-major-14 soundcore
    alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
    alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
    alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
    alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
    alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
    alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
    options snd major=116 cards_limit=1 device_gid=29 device_mode=0660
    options snd-via82xx index=0
    # --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---

    End:

    Notice that there are references to 2 different types of alsa drivers. You'll have to open Konqueror and delete the /etc/moduitls/alsa-0.9-knoppix folder manually or copy it to an archive file preferably in gzip format. You don't have to apt-get remove anything anymore at this point as that has already served its function. Now, if you're more worried about the serial port first, then look at the serial lines I pointed out. It's been commented out, and I'm not sure why, but I'm not that advanced enough to sort out what did that. You could make a copy of this file and then edit it by uncommenting the lines referring to the setserial ports. It may be overridden when you reboot afterwards, but anything worth a try. As for alsa, you're pretty much finished with it, but take out the lines in your bootmisc.sh referring to alsa so it doesn't start.

  10. #40
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    O M G

    I got it to work !

    I blew away the alsa-knoppix and the 1alsa files found in /etc/modutils - and did a update-modules -=- and after examining the modules file, and the modules.conf files - everything looked like it did before I did all of this - considering I was forced with a "complete reinstall" - I really didn't have anything to loose here - upon reboot - no messages, and the system is back to its normal (modem usable) state

    I took the time, to get the drivers from ALSA, the base, utils, and such, from deb, did the compile, and dpkg, and was able to fire off alsamixer on the first go...

    So, now I need to add the aumix -w 75 -v 75 right? BTW - i'm doing an apt-get install of the alsamixergui as I speak...

    From what I know, you need to run the alsamixer (or aumix) to "prep" the audio on boot right? Does this "prep" set the volume levels, or is it just to get it running? I tend to like my volume settings on specific things, just a certain way: Master=75, PCM=75, Line=(record) and 75, and CD=75 - if I set these up in the mixer, will they "hold" between shutdowns? They did when I used whatever sound I had before.

    After all of this, I think EVERYONE in this thread has been fantastic, thank you to everyone

    Cuddles
    ps -=- I haven't tried aplay yet, I haven't had the chance, besides, with all the hell that broke loose, I deleted all of my wav files to test with... But, considering that alsamixer is up, I think it is ok [?]

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